Strongest Ancient Asian Empire

I think this poll demonstrates the proportion of Chinese and Koreans on this board rather than actual opinions on which of these regimes were powerful.  Just look at the numbers.  =)

well... I am well versed in Chinese culture but I still voted for the Ancient Corean.  Because in Sui and Tang dynasty, the Coreans did kick some ass.

Originally posted by coolstorm Korea was eventually occupied by the Tang. At least at some points of history. It's true that it won some wars after Tang's decline but Tang definitely had superior power over the Koreans.

Eh..I don't see the point...

Shinla immediately kicked out Tang and Barhae(Bohai) came pretty quick...and in terms of Tang dominating I tenatively agree....they were a dominating power in ASia...although that doesn't justify how some textbooks show korea as part of Tang lands...


Edited by Gubukjanggoon

When we talk about the power of an empire, you have to evaluate everything which includes the level of advanced science, cultural influence, military etc. Winning one or two battles isn't an indicator for anything. Both Japanese and Korean cultures were under the influence of the Tang, agree?

I know some patriotic koreans might not agree but it was true.

The Japanese language is based upon the Chinese language and uses Han Chinese characters. That's why when Chinese people read Japanese, they can at least get the meaning and when Japanese people read Chinese, they can get the meaning of the text as well.

"wrong way to say it.. both Japan and Korea accepted some aspects of Tang culture.."

Wrong way to say.. both Japan and Korea were under Chinese cultural influence. Not Tang but Chinese. But accepted but were under influence. Check any western history text and it will say the same thing with the same wording.

"I get what your're saying here..but the way you said it was incorrect.  Japanese was not based upon the Chinese language...it borrowed from it..."

It is based upon it in terms of structure, character, and the origin of the Japanese language itself. The Japanese language was developed from the Chinese language. Check any western texts, it will say the same thing.

Ancient Koreans also used Chinese but modern Korean is from another language family similar to that of Manchurian, Mongolian.

Originally posted by coolstorm The Japanese language "IS" still based upon the Chinese language as of today!

Umm...okay...there is no proof that Japanese belongs to any language group...I agree that Japanese borrowed many words from Chinese, but it's situation is similar to Korean...It's roots are presumed to be in the Tugustic or Austrnesian families

"but it's situation is similar to Korean...It's roots are presumed to be in the Tugustic or Austrnesian families"

true for korean but wrong for japanese. japanese is based upon chinese and is the same family as chinese. so is tibetan.

the difference between Japanese and Chinese even more obvious  than between English and Chinese.

"yeah i know there are a few theories on origins of japanese...related to korean, related to altaic (and also korean), related to both altaic and polynesian etc....so far as i know Mandarin or Cantonese are not even among candidate languages."

Please explain why the structure of Japanese is basically the same between Chinese and Japanese? I am talking about writing structure.

And all Chinese and Japanese people can understand each other's writing and get the core meaning. Please explain how that could happen.

Maybe one day you could show a Japanese script to a Turkish and ask him what it means.

All the signs and names in Japan are in Chinese. Maybe one day you can set up some Chinese traffic signs or toilet signs in Turkey and expect the Turkish to use them.