U.S. Deserter tells of MORE Atrocities

Originally posted by poirot After I get my engineering degree (in two months), I will do everything I can to counter Genghis' efforts    Artillery?  I will build anti-artillery.

Then you'll just start a destabilizing arms race.

In flouting the various and many war and human rights conventions as the US has, it will be rich when all of the fascist nationalist types in the US government and public cry foul when they get into a real war and their boys are on the receiving end.

Well, real wars are diffferent.

No, a real war is when the other country actually makes an effort and fights. Iraq right now is assymetrical warfare.  If the Iraqi Army hadn't been bribed into disbanding and actually had spirit to fight, every city would have been turned into a Ramadi or Fallujah and on a much higher scale.

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What i am referring to, Illuminati, are the combatants of other countries kicked the decapitated heads of american soldiers around as footballs and blowing off a hand or foot whenevr they feel insulted. or just plain wrapping a brown bag over their heads tying their hands and feet and beating the poop out of them.

American nationalists/fascists etc who defend the actions of their military, whatever they may be, will also no doubt cry foul when the above happens.  My point is that they will have no right to, their nation's prior conduct and policy set the precedent for such disgusting behaviour.

Another point that should be made is that Iraqis are no doubt seen as sub-human by most American troops, for which the government of the US and its allies in the media can be blamed.

I think we are finally exposing the Evil as it truly is inthis thread, which was my aim all along.  Now we can push aside all these democracy, liberation, morality, nonsense.  I knew I could count on you people.  Saddam sounds civilized in this Stone Age talk.

When I get too full of hope for humanity, I read your postings.   Thanks you very much.

Illuminati wrote

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I don't see your point. I never referred to the Iraq war as a "real war." IN my mind, a real war is along the lines of world war 2.  Zagros stated that the US would cry foul when it's on the recieving end of a real war. Myself and Genghis pointed out that in a real war, where the fate of nations, and millions of lives hang in the balance, that it would be a completely different situation than the Iraq war, because after all, when your nation and people on the threat of being wiped out or conquered, certain humane concerns go right out of the window. Not to mention, your people are united, unlike in the Vietnam war and the current war. It's not evil, it's the reality of total war, and one look at world war 1 and 2 proves it.

I think the real evil is your ignorance to history and inability to comprehend what others are saying.
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Of couese you don't see my point because you don't see your own point.  Millions of people did die in Vietnam and Iraq.  Yes, any 'humane concerns' did went out the window, and that itself doesn't sound evil to you?

According to your logic, because it is the reality of total war, it is excused from being Evil?  Don't you think you sound little too much like Hitler or Stalin?  Maybe World War I & II  sounded 'Real Wars' to you because we were fighting white people?  Unless you are killing whitie, it doesn't even feel like a war, does it to you?  Just another extermination.....

Ignorance to history and inability to comprehend what yourself is saying is truly evil.