God or Allah?

Is this April fools too? Seems like ur being serious.

In Iran they say Khoda. doesn't matter, for religious people it isn't a name, god does not have a name, they are words used to refer to the entity that is god/allah etc, for people of an abrahamic persuasion at least.

Well, Allah is in Arabic, God in English, Deus in Latin, jainkoa in Basque, Tien in Chinese... it's just words, you know. Or are you one of those Muslims that worship words too? 

Yep, the terms are equivalent. The only difference is the difference in language.

It would be like saying that we should use "Deus" rather than "God."


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Originally posted by Paul Come on we all now that Allah, God, Khoda, Jehova, Paul, Deus ect are just colloqualisms for the dieties one true name - Google. Which is the same in all language. (except Thai, then it's Googan)

My Turkish friend pronounces Google as Gog-Lay.

Originally posted by sirius99 BTW, Garanai what does your signature means" khepelvaki ....ghazni"?

Dear Sirius99,
In reply to your question my signature "Da khepelvaki satandoa Gharanai" means "Savior of Independence, Mountainous".

khepelvaki = Independence
Satandoa = Savior
Gharanai = Mountainous

And that is not ghazni but Gharanai (my name)!!!

Originally posted by Gharanai I agree with all of you but my point was that God could be used to any one with something extraordinary like just take an example of a cricketer "Sachin Tendulkar" he is said to be a god of cricket. what do you get by that then.

Dear Gharanai it's all a matter of perception.I am not a muslim but have many muslim friends.In India generally a muslim won't use the word God instead of Allah unless he considers English his mother tongue.If you wish I will explain more.

Originally posted by Gharanai Got what you wanted to tell, but still I would insist on using the word (Allah) , I guess it's up to ones' thinking!

Yes Dear Gharanai.Each to his way.

Originally posted by Maju Well, Allah is in Arabic, God in English, Deus in Latin, jainkoa in Basque, Tien in Chinese... it's just words, you know. Or are you one of those Muslims that worship words too?

��Tian�� was used by the Zhou dynasty. Before that, the Shang used the term ��Di��. As ��Di��in ��HuangDi(the yellow emperor)��&/or��HuangDi(emperor)��.

But, Chinese term ��Di��originally referred to ancestor. For example, In Shang oracle bone inscriptions, later Shang sovereigns would call WuDing(a famous Shang King) as ��Di Ding��.

The character ��Di��in its early form looked like a pistil & a stamen of a plant, its probably the result of an agricultural society, in which it symbolized fertility, thus to have a flourishing population, and to have a generation come down to the next.

It might had been entitled to those most important ��HuaXia��chieftains, such as legendary��five Dis��, and the Yellow&Fire emperors(HuangDi&YanDi).It was a reference to ancestry and linage during Shang dynasty, ��Di��as ��paramount gods��in ancient China meant ancestors.

The Zhou was one of most important vassals of the Shang dynasty. From some Zhou inscriptions of their divination practice, the Zhou also worshiped Shang ��gods��, demonstrates strong cultural link between the two. Nevertheless, when the Zhou came to rule, they replaced the word ��Di��with ��Tian��(literally means sky) was because they are situated to far west. Whereas the Shang in the central plain could get abundance of tortoise-shells for their oracle bone writings as they are the overlord.

But, Zhou as a vassal state to inland western province of ShannXi would hardly get those materials. So the Zhou developed a way by using astronomy(Tian) and calculation(Shu, threads made of plans to count) for those divination practices. Its because of this special emphasis of Zhou culture, that the concept of ��Tian��replaced ��Di��when they came to rule.

The Character ��Tian��in its pictographic form, looked like a man stands facing front, with a round object on his head. As if worshiping it.

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So you say charioteer that I was wrong when using Tien for God in Chinese and that I should have used Di instead?

(Notice that your characters are seen strange for those of us that don't have a Chinese font loaded, you may prefer to use images instead).

Originally posted by Cywr if an American is called "Jone", I am sure that he is also called "Jone" in any other language of the world Not necessarily, for example, John in English becomes Jan in Dutch, Johan in German and Juan in Spanish Anyways, isn't Allah supposed to have like 99,000 names or something?

Dear Cywr,
First of all I would like to say that whether it's English, Dutch or any other language, the position of alphabets could change or even there could be some addition or substraction of charecters, but still the name will not change, you see John, Jan, Johan, and Juan.

What we are talking about is Allah and God, which looks to me completly different and what I realy meant was that the word "God" is not proper as it has plural form along with a option of gender (Goddess) and where Allah is one and no one knows whether Allah is male of female.

Secondly there are 99 (not some un-factfull number 99,000) names showing attributs of Allmighty Allah.

Hope I have clearified you, with this response otherwise your comments and questions are most welcome.