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    Posted: 16-Dec-2006 at 22:23
Penelope Sargons empire was not a world empire it was a regional empire.Lamp
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  Quote Penelope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 22:11
Originally posted by kingofmazanderan

Penelope Sargons empire was not a world empire it was a regional empire.Lamp
 
World empire regional empire, it doesnt really matter as long as its an Empire.
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    yup hellios thats right
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  Quote Red4tribe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 14:56
The British empire was the largest in 1923
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 MONGOL EMPIRE WAS THE LARGEST. COME ON GUYS NOONE'S GONNA ARGUE WITH THIS. BRITISH OWNED AUSTRALIA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND and those land had almost no population it is easy to take over them. To conquer them the British dont need to send an large army. THey sent just settlers. But Mongol Empire is much different. Only China's population at that time was 100 million and Mongolian population was no more than 1 millon and Mongols conquered almost all known land at that time. Without Mongol Empire there would be no British Empire and Britain didnt had any land in Europe except their homeland, but Mongols conquered all Asia, MiddleEast and 60% of Europe
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  Quote Constantine XI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 18:09
Originally posted by GreatMongols

Without Mongol Empire there would be no British Empire


wrong

Originally posted by GreatMongols

Britain didnt had any land in Europe except their homeland


wrong

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but Mongols conquered all Asia, MiddleEast and 60% of Europe


And yet all that land is still smaller than the British Empire at its peak.
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  Quote Knights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Dec-2006 at 01:04
If I may continue on from Constantine...

Originally posted by GreatMongols

COME ON GUYS NOONE'S GONNA ARGUE WITH THIS.


Actually, I am, as did Constantine XI

Originally posted by GreatMongols

BRITISH OWNED AUSTRALIA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND and those land had almost no population it is easy to take over them.


Neither did the steppe wilderness which made up a lot of the Mongol Empire. Plus, the New Zealand Maori warriors were fierce and put up a fight.

Originally posted by GreatMongols

To conquer them the British dont need to send an large army. THey sent just settlers. But Mongol Empire is much different. Only China's population at that time was 100 million and Mongolian population was no more than 1 millon and Mongols conquered almost all known land at that time


The method in which the Empire was acheived is not significant, the final resulting Empire that was carved is the point of discussion. However, it was a very amazing accomplishment by the Mongols.

Originally posted by GreatMongols

Without Mongol Empire there would be no British Empire...


With all due respect, where is the logic behind this? I see no reason why there could be know no British Empire if it weren't for the Mongols.

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Yes the treasures of Asia are so beautiful and bigger than european. But there is a series of invasions of tatars hordes in South-east Europe. So many treasures and foodstuffs are stolen from Hungary, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria & Byzantia.
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  Quote Pero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jan-2007 at 19:14
i would say that mongol empire was the biggest (looking at the landwise).
Then again british empire was big to.  I cant really tell which one was bigger.
What about russian SSSR.  During their communist system, they were pretty big to.
But the biggest empire so far i have to call for roman empire (not landwise), but the way of their structure and how many civilizations have fallen under their rule for centuries.
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  1. British Empire - 36.6 million km(under King George V in 1921) (excludes Antarctic territorial claims)
  2. Mongol Empire - 33.2 million km(under Khublai Khan in 1279) (excludes Northern Siberia)
  3. Russian Empire - 22.8 million km) (under Nicholas II in 1895)
  4. Spanish Empire - 19 million km(under King Charles III)
  5. Arab Empire - 13.2 million km(under the Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I)
  6. Ottoman Empire - 12 million km - (under the Kprl administration in Crete, Southern Ukraine and Podolia in the end of 17th century)
  7. Qing Empire - 12 million km(under Emperor Qianlong)
  8. French Empire - 11.2 million km(during World War I)
  9. Portuguese Empire - 10.4 million km
  10. American Empire - 10 million km(1898-1902 and 1906-1908)
  11. Brazilian Empire - 8.1 million km(under Dom Pedro II)
  12. Macedonian Empire - 7.5 million km(under Alexander the Great)
  13. Achaemenid Persian Empire - 7.5 million km(under Darius the Great)
  14. Sassanid Persian Empire - 7.47 million km(under Khosrau II)
  15. Japanese Empire - 7.4 million km(during World War II)
  16. Ming Empire - 6.5 million km
  17. Han Empire - 6 million km
  18. Roman Empire - 5.8 million km(under Emperor Trajan)
  19. Tang Empire - 5.4 million km(under Emperor Xuanzong of Tang)
  20. Maurya Empire - 5 million km(under Ashoka the Great)
  21. Mexican Empire - 4.7 million km
  22. Byzantine Empire - 4.5 million km
  23. Timurid Empire - 4.4 million km
  24. Mughal Empire - 4 million km(under Aurangzeb)
  25. Hunnic Empire - 4 million km(under Attila the Hun)
  26. Seljuq Empire - 3.9 million km
  27. Seleucid Empire - 3.9 million km
  28. Italian Empire - 3.8 million km (during World War II)
  29. Dutch Empire - 3.7 million km
  30. Nazi German Empire - 3.6 million km(during World War II)
  31. Gupta Empire - 3.5 million km(under Chandragupta II)
  32. Ghaznavid Empire - 3.4 million km
  33. Pala Empire - 3.2 million km(under Devapala)
  34. Delhi Sultanate - 3.2 million km
  35. Khazar Empire - 3 million km
  36. Median Empire - 2.8 million km
  37. Chola Empire - 2.6 million km(under Rajendra Chola I)
  38. Belgian Empire - 2.5 million km
  39. Inca Empire - 2 million km
  40. Majapahit Empire - 1.5 million km
  41. Neo-Assyrian Empire - 1.4 million km
  42. Aksumite Empire - 1.3 million km
  43. Srivijaya Empire - 1.2 million km
  44. Frankish Empire - 1.2 million km
  45. Harsha Empire - 1 million km(under Harsha Vardhana)
  46. Egyptian Empire - 1 million km
  47. Almoravid Empire - 1 million km
  48. Khmer Empire - 1 million km
  49. Akkadian Empire - 650,000 km
  50. Nanda Empire - 600,000 km
  51. Austro-Hungarian Empire - 600,000 km
  52. Neo-Babylonian Empire - 500,000 km
  53. Vijayanagara Empire - 360,000 km

Contiguous empires

  1. Mongol Empire - 33.2 million km (under Khublai Khan in 1279)
  2. Russian Empire - 22.8 million km (under Alexander II in 1867)
  3. Arab Empire - 13.2 million km (under the Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I)
  4. Qing Empire - 12 million km (under Emperor Qianlong)
  5. Ottoman Empire - 12 million km - (under the Kprl administration in Crete, Southern Ukraine and Podolia in the end of 17th century)
  6. Brazilian Empire - 8.1 million km(under Dom Pedro II)
  7. Achaemenid Persian Empire - 7.5 million km (under Darius the Great)
  8. Sassanid Persian Empire - 7.47 million km (under Khosrau I)
  9. Ming Empire - 6.5 million km
  10. Han Empire - 6 million km
  11. Roman Empire - 5.6 million km (under Emperor Trajan)
  12. Tang Empire - 5.4 million km
  13. Macedonian Empire - 5.4 million km (under Alexander the Great)
  14. Maurya Empire - 5 million km (under Ashoka the Great)
  15. Byzantine Empire - 4.5 million km
  16. Mughal Empire - 4 million km (under Aurangzeb)
  17. Hunnic Empire - 4 million km (under Attila the Hun)
  18. Seljuq Empire - 3.9 million km
  19. Seleucid Empire - 3.9 million km
  20. Nazi German Empire - 3.6 million km (during World War II)
  21. Gupta Empire - 3.5 million km (under Chandragupta II)
  22. Ghaznavid Empire - 3.4 million km
  23. Pala Empire - 3.2 million km (under Devapala)
  24. Delhi Sultanate - 3.2 million km
  25. Khazar Empire - 3 million km
  26. Median Empire - 2.8 million km
  27. Inca Empire - 2 million km
  28. Neo-Assyrian Empire - 1.4 million km
  29. Aksumite Empire - 1.3 million km
  30. Frankish Empire - 1.2 million km
  31. Harsha Empire - 1 million km (under Harsha Vardhana)
  32. Egyptian Empire - 1 million km
  33. Almoravid Empire - 1 million km
  34. Khmer Empire - 1 million km
  35. Akkadian Empire - 650,000 km
  36. Nanda Empire - 600,000 km
  37. Austro-Hungarian Empire - 600,000 km
  38. Neo-Babylonian Empire - 500,000 km
  39. Vijayanagara Empire - 360,000 km

Overseas empires

  1. British Empire - 36.6 million km (under King George V in 1921)
  2. Spanish Empire - 19 million km (under King Charles III)
  3. French Empire - 11.2 million km (during World War I)
  4. Portuguese Empire - 10.4 million km
  5. American Empire - 10 million km (1898-1902 and 1906-1908)
  6. Japanese Empire - 7.4 million km (during World War II)
  7. Italian Empire - 3.8 million km (during World War II)
  8. Dutch Empire - 3.7 million km
  9. Chola Empire - 2.6 million km (under Rajendra Chola I)
  10. Belgian Empire - 2.5 million km
  11. Majapahit Empire - 1.5 million km
  12. Srivijaya Empire - 1.2 million km

Ancient empires

  1. Achaemenid Persian Empire - 7.5 million km (under Darius the Great)
  2. Sassanid Persian Empire - 7.47 million km (under Khosrau I)
  3. Han Empire - 6 million km
  4. Roman Empire - 5.6 million km (under Emperor Trajan)
  5. Macedonian Empire - 5.4 million km (under Alexander the Great)
  6. Maurya Empire - 5 million km (under Ashoka the Great)
  7. Hunnic Empire - 4 million km (under Attila the Hun)
  8. Seleucid Empire - 3.9 million km
  9. Gupta Empire - 3.5 million km (under Chandragupta II)
  10. Median Empire - 2.8 million km
  11. Neo-Assyrian Empire - 1.4 million km
  12. Aksumite Empire - 1.3 million km
  13. Egyptian Empire - 1 million km
  14. Akkadian Empire - 650,000 km
  15. Nanda Empire - 600,000 km
  16. Neo-Babylonian Empire - 500,000 km

Medieval empires

  1. Mongol Empire - 33.2 million km (under Khublai Khan in 1279)
  2. Arab Empire - 13.2 million km (under the Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I)
  3. Sassanid Persian Empire - 7.4 million km (under Khosrau I)
  4. Ming Empire - 6.5 million km
  5. Ottoman Empire - 5.6 million km - (under the Kprl administration in Crete, Southern Ukraine and Podolia in the end of 17th century)
  6. Tang Empire - 5.4 million km# Byzantine Empire - 4.5 million km
  7. Byzantine Empire - 4.5 million km
  8. Mughal Empire - 4 million km (under Aurangzeb)
  9. Seljuq Empire - 3.9 million km
  10. Ghaznavid Empire - 3.4 million km
  11. Pala Empire - 3.2 million km (under Devapala)
  12. Delhi Sultanate - 3.2 million km
  13. Khazar Empire - 3 million km
  14. Chola Empire - 2.6 million km (under Rajendra Chola I in 1030)
  15. Inca Empire - 2 million km
  16. Majapahit Empire - 1.5 million km
  17. Aksumite/Ethiopian Empire - 1.3 million km
  18. Srivijaya Empire - 1.2 million km
  19. Frankish Empire - 1.2 million km
  20. Mali Empire - 1.1 million km
  21. Harsha Empire - 1 million km (under Harsha Vardhana)
  22. Almoravid Empire - 1 million km
  23. Khmer Empire - 1 million km
  24. Vijayanagara Empire - 360,000 km

Modern empires

  1. British Empire - 36.6 million km (under King George V in 1921)
  2. Russian Empire - 22.8 million km (under Alexander II in 1867)
  3. Spanish Empire - 19 million km (under Charles III)
  4. Qing Empire - 12 million km (under Emperor Qianlong)
  5. Ottoman Empire - 12 million km - (under the Kprl administration in Crete, Southern Ukraine and Podolia in the end of 17th century)
  6. French Empire - 11.2 million km
  7. Portuguese Empire - 10.4 million km
  8. American Empire - 10 million km (1898-1902 and 1906-1908)
  9. Brazilian Empire - 8.1 million km(under Dom Pedro II)
  10. Japanese Empire - 7.4 million km (during World War II)
  11. Mughal Empire - 4 million km
  12. Italian Empire - 3.8 million km (during World War II)
  13. Dutch Empire - 3.7 million km
  14. Nazi German Empire - 3.6 million km (during World War II)
  15. Belgian Empire - 2.5 million km
  16. Austro-Hungarian Empire - 676,615 km2

Population size

  1. British Empire - 531.3 million (in 1938)
  2. Qing Empire - 432 million (in 1912)
  3. Mughal Empire - 175 million (in 1700)
  4. Ming Empire - 160 million (in 1600)
  5. Russian Empire - 176.4 million (in 1913)
  6. American Empire - 146.4 million (in 1942)
  7. Japanese Empire - 134.8 million (in 1938)
  8. French Empire - 112.9 million (in 1938)
  9. Mongol Empire - 110 million (in the 13th century)
  10. Nazi German Empire - 75.4 million (in 1938)
  11. Spanish Empire - 64.2 million
  12. Arab Empire - 62 million (in the 7th century)
  13. Han Empire - 60 million (in 2 CE)
  14. Roman Empire - 60 million (in the 1st century CE)
  15. Song Empire - 59 million (in 1000)
  16. Italian Empire - 51.9 million (in 1938)
  17. Austro-Hungarian Empire - 50.6 million (in 1913)
  18. Maurya Empire - 50 million (in the 2nd century BCE)
  19. Achaemenid Persian Empire - 42 million (in the 4th century BCE)
  20. Ottoman Empire - 39 million (in the 17th century)
  21. Belgian Empire - 35.3 million (before Congolese independence, 1960)
  22. Byzantine Empire - 34 million (5th-6th centuries)
  23. Vijayanagara Empire - 25 million (in the 16th century)
  24. Portuguese Empire - 14.7 million (in 1913)

Percentage of world population

  1. Qing Empire - 36.6% (381 million out of 1041 million in 1820)
  2. Maurya Empire - 33.3% (50 million out of 150 million in the 2nd century BCE)
  3. Arab Empire - 29.5% (62 million out of 210 million in the 7th century)
  4. Mughal Empire - 29.2% (175 million out of 600 million in 1700)
  5. Ming Empire - 28.8% (160 million out of 556.2 million in 1600)
  6. Achaemenid Persian Empire - 27.6% (42 million out of 152 million in the 4th century BCE)
  7. Han Empire - 26.5% (59.6 million out of 226 million in 2 CE)
  8. Roman Empire - 26.5% (60 million out of 226 million in the 1st century CE)
  9. British Empire - 25.6% (458 million out of 1,791 million in 1913)
  10. Mongol Empire - 25.6% (110 million out of 429 million in the 13th century)
  11. Song Empire - 22% (59 million out of 268 million in 1000)
  12. Spanish Empire - 12.3% (68.2 million out of 556 million in the 17th century)
  13. Russian Empire - 9.8% (176.4 million out of 1,791 million in 1913)
  14. Ottoman Empire - 7.1% (39 million out of 556 million in the 17th century)
  15. American Empire - 6.4% (146.4 million out of 2,295 million in 1938)
  16. Japanese Empire - 5.9% (134.8 million out of 2,295 million[15] in 1938)
  17. Vijayanagara Empire - 5.7% (25 million out of 438 million[15] in the 16th century)
  18. French Empire - 4.9% (112.9 million out of 2,295 million in 1938)
  19. Nazi German Empire - 3.3% (75.4 million out of 2,295 million in 1938)
  20. Austro-Hungarian Empire - 2.8% (50.6 million out of 1,791 million in 1913)
  21. Italian Empire - 2.3% (51.9 million out of 2,295 million in 1938)
  22. Portuguese Empire - 0.8% (14.7 million out of 1,791 million in 1913)

GDP size

  1. American Empire - $1,713.6 billion (in 1944)
  2. British Empire - $683.3 billion (in 1938)
  3. Nazi German Empire - $375.6 billion (in 1938)
  4. Japanese Empire - $260.7 billion (in 1938)
  5. Russian Empire - $257.7 billion (in 1913)
  6. Qing Empire - $241.3 billion (in 1912)
  7. French Empire - $234.1 billion (in 1938)
  8. Italian Empire - $143.4 billion (in 1938)
  9. Austro-Hungarian Empire - $100.5 billion (in 1913)
  10. Mughal Empire - $90.8 billion (in 1700)
  11. Ottoman Empire - $26.4 billion (in 1913)
  12. Portuguese Empire - $12.6 billion (in 1913)

Percentage of world GDP

  1. American Empire - 35%($1,644.8 billion out of $4,699 billion in 1945)
  2. Qing Empire - 32.9% ($228.6 billion out of $694.4 billion in 1820)
  3. Mughal Empire - 24.5% ($90.8 billion out of $371 billion in 1700)
  4. British Empire - 23.8% ($265 billion out of $1,111 billion in 1870)
  5. Russian Empire - 9.4% ($257.7 billion out of $2,733 billion in 1913)
  6. Nazi German Empire - 8.3% ($375.6 billion out of $4,502 billion in 1938)
  7. Japanese Empire - 5.8% ($260.7 billion out of $4,502 billion in 1938)
  8. French Empire - 5.2% ($234.1 billion out of $4,502 billion in 1938)
  9. Austro-Hungarian Empire - 3.7% ($100.5 billion out of $2,733 billion in 1913)
  10. Italian Empire - 3.2% ($143.4 billion out of $4,502 billion in 1938)
  11. Ottoman Empire - 1% ($26.4 billion out of $2,733 billion in 1913)
  12. Portuguese Empire - 0.5% ($12.6 billion out of $2,733 billion in 1913)
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I fail to see how hard it is for the british and Spanish Musketeers to conquer a few cavemen of australia, a few hunters and gatherers of New Zealand and to watch the American Indians slaughter each other and just take over.

I can safely say that the Persians or Chinese in the 5th Century BC can destroy the Aztecs army in the 1600s.
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before gunpowder!chinese conquer their lands are not included also a great empire!
1-mongol empire
2-islamic empire
3-ottoman empire
4-macedonian empire
5-sassanid empire
6-roman empire
7-timurid empire
8-mungal empire Turko-Persian, Indian and Mongol background.
9-hunnic empire
10-seljuk empire
 
as  you see above
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  Quote Penelope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Jul-2007 at 22:44

Supremacy, very interresting.

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The British Empire in 1920 ruled 25% of world population. That was the heighest portion recorded in history, I suppose....But the most deserved empire was that of Mongols. By most deserved, I refer to wars against resistance.

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  Quote edgewaters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2007 at 22:38
Originally posted by GreatMongols

BRITISH OWNED AUSTRALIA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND and those land had almost no population it is easy to take over them.


Plus all of India, about half of Africa - which is a massive continent, Mercator projection doesn't show its landmass properly - parts of the Middle East, and various countries all over the place (eg Burma, Malaysia, New Guinea).

From the middle of the 1800s to WW1 Britain added 9 million square miles of territory - more than the entire Soviet Union (8.6 million square miles) - in addition to the territories it already possessed (Canada, Australia, India, etc). Total landmass at greatest extent was 14.2 million square miles - the greatest extent of the Mongol empire was 12 million square miles, and its population wasn't anything even close to the half billion of the British Empire.
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  Quote elenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Jul-2007 at 00:48

Hard to keep track of this thread. The British are out of it because they had guns, but many keep mentioning them. It is tempting to say the Mongol Empire was the largest because of the land mass they covered, but a lot of that was not inhabited either. There were great cities along the trade routes, yet outside of great cities were huge areas of farmlands and farmers sacrificed in times of war. As long as they had food those in the cities didnt give a toss about what happened to the peasants.  

The Mongols were cherry pickers. They were mainly famed for their nasty habit of needlessly destroying dams and irrigation systems. No telling what some get off on. They moved on without a backward glance unless there was an immediate way to keep making a profit from the area, in which case they brought in their relatives to settle the area or forcibly married the women as sex slaves. 

Its not like they declared war on anybody. They were dealing with an internal population explosion in their own lands. Once the right leader to follow had been found all the young hoons who had been kicked out of the family nest rode off to find somewhere else to be nasty. I mean who is calling them civilized?

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  Quote AlokaParyetra Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Jul-2007 at 10:38
I think the primary determining factor of an empire's size should be population controlled. What is so great controlling a huge piece of land if five people live on it? It is much harder to control people than land. Therefore, we should measure the size of an empire by the number of people under its control, and not necessarily the amount of land.
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  Quote elenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Jul-2007 at 23:11
We could further refine that way of thinking to say the number of cities controlled. The cities have and still do control the countryside in their area of the world. The many people can and did live on the land were at the mercy of invaders. People once lived anywhere they could make a living. The areas of unsettled lands, if well watered with fertile soil, are always an attraction to invaders whether populated or not.

Then again that would depend on the invader and what they came looking for. Land or loot. If they wanted loot the rich cities them attracted like flies to the honeypot. Robbing peasants is slow and tedious task with not much to show for the effort at the end of the day.
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  Quote Illirac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jul-2007 at 09:54
They had guns....hahaha....so what?....the mongols had horse archer(and europe didn't used them) so they can not be counted?....come on...the British empire controled the most territories then any other empire(it's not important if they fought rabble armies with spears)....
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