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AFG-PaShTuN
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Topic: .: Afghan Ottoman War 1726 :. Posted: 30-Jun-2007 at 07:13 |
Solomeena!
Derjagger, nice to hear that, at least one of you know that it did take place, i asked my Turkish mates and they don't know if they've ever engaged in any war with the Afghans.
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Bro i have been busy with studies and didn't get time to gather the sources and other related info, and now that i got time i don't have the book, some friend borrowed it off me and hasn't returned it yet. :S
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Posted: 30-Jun-2007 at 08:24 |
Its not the first time Afghans have fought Turks or Turkic peoples. Afghans did fight against the Mongols, the Moghuls, the Karakhanids under Mahmud Ghaznavi.
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Posted: 02-Jul-2007 at 08:32 |
İf there was a Big battle like this,we must be heard of it.
I will search it on wiki
Edited by Xiongnu Hun - 02-Jul-2007 at 08:38
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Posted: 02-Jul-2007 at 16:33 |
think it was pretty much between Nadir and Afghans, rather than ottomans, coze those times actually Nadir was the leader of Iran, As well as Azerbaijan
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Posted: 03-Jul-2007 at 13:14 |
There was an Afghan general who ruled Azerbaijan too after Nadir Afshari's demise.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2007 at 03:35 |
I couldn't find a battle like this...
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Posted: 05-Jul-2007 at 13:26 |
Well AFG-PaShTuN we know that war, but as a Turkish-İranian war not as a Turk-Afghan war.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2007 at 20:58 |
Yeah, Afghans were present in that war against the Ottomans under the Afshari.
They used Afghan jezail rifle shooters and Cameleers with big guns, ,both of which were essential to his army. And ofcourse, he had Afghan generals in his army.
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Posted: 06-Jul-2007 at 01:43 |
Well ı found the information at least:
It was fought at a place named Andijn (probably not the same place at Ferghna). The Ottoman commander was Ahmed Pasha while the Iranian Afghan army was commanded by Ashraf Khn.
The battle lasted for two days. The Ottomans had more advantages at the beginning and it looked as if the Afghans were going to lose. But Ashraf Khn sent secret messengers to clan troops inside the Ottoman army, telling them that if they switched sides, he would give them independent states to every clan. In the second day of the battle, the clan warriors of the Ottoman army switched sides, joining the Afghan army. The Ottoman army was defeated soon, withdrawing to Hamadn while leaving it's heavy cannons behind.
But the numbers you guys said are untrue .
Edited by Xiongnu Hun - 06-Jul-2007 at 01:47
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Posted: 06-Jul-2007 at 23:05 |
sorry but since 1639 Kasr-i Şirin iranian border changed just slightly it is almost the same from that time may be it wasn't big enough to change the borders of ottoman. i don't think that we know only the victories of ottoman or the turks.we are governed really bad for the last 3 centuries by ottoman that's why we had also great defeats but i have never heard of it.Is this battle have a name?
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Posted: 07-Jul-2007 at 02:13 |
Afghanan, after NAdir there was not any single person who ruled Iran, which was divided to more than 40 small provinces on their own. But there were some Iran Afghan wars, not Ottoman Afghan wars. In times of Turkish Saffavids (before Abbas 1st) you may count them as Ottomans.
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Posted: 07-Jul-2007 at 02:35 |
Originally posted by Kerimoglu
Afghanan, after NAdir there was not any single person who ruled Iran, which was divided to more than 40 small provinces on their own. But there were some Iran Afghan wars, not Ottoman Afghan wars. In times of Turkish Saffavids (before Abbas 1st) you may count them as Ottomans. |
Did you read my post?There was Afghan-Ottoman War.Battle of Andijan
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