(Scary Imams and gullable) Muslims versus Denmark (and fascists)

Originally posted by Mira The boycott is a political statement that can be seen as a form of political freedom.  We're progressing in that field.

It is real progress if one day someone can wear a t-shirt that says "Everyone thinks you are an a**hole but Mohammed loves you" and walks on the streets in any Muslim city without getting harassed or risking his or her life.

I wear a t-shirt that says "Everyone thinks you are an a**hole but Jesus loves you" all the time and most people don't even pay attention to me. I am offended that people don't get offended

Originally posted by flyingzone Originally posted by Mira The boycott is a political statement that can be seen as a form of political freedom.  We're progressing in that field. It is real progress if one day someone can wear a t-shirt that says "Everyone thinks you are an a**hole but Mohammed loves you" and walks on the streets in any Muslim city without getting harassed or risking his or her life. I wear a t-shirt that says "Everyone thinks you are an a**hole but Jesus loves you" all the time and most people don't even pay attention to me. I am offended that people don't get offended

But Mohammed doesn't love you if you are an infidel.

 

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Originally posted by flyingzone You talk about democracy, democracy, democracy all the time. But once it touches upon the "holy ground" of religion, you automatically revert to the medieval mode. How can real progress be made if even someone as enlightened and smart as you harbours this "conditional" format of democracy???

Simply because our concept of democracy differs from yours.  You can't impose your own definitions on the world.  We believe in a democracy and freedom of expression where everybody gets to say what they want in a diplomatic way.  Make peace, not war.  Tell me what you think, but don't say it with a fool smell in your mouth.

We like to be treated like we treat others.  You won't see cartoons, articles or even books by Muslims defaming religious figures of others.  Not even religious figures of what Muslims consider to be 'idolatrous beliefs.'

voyager what is problem? stores are like newspapers(danish ones), why are you accusing bosnian goverment?

 

I hope not kemalists, I prefer pope or rabbis!

 

Mortaza

In reply to your question here's another quote from Mila's introductory post:

President Sulejman Tihic of Bosnia and Herzegovina said he would not be so upset if not for Denmark's previous insults to Muslims.

Besides, have you seen any European government complaining and threatening boycotes? Bosnia (or the Bosniaks) has just shown that Muslim solidarity comes first than European solidarity. Same thing about Turkey who also complained. And Turks reclaim to have a secular state. Bah.

Mira

Originally posted by Mira Originally posted by flyingzone So who is to define "kindness", "diplomacy", and "manners"? The Immans? The Rabbis? The Pope? Or some other person (most probably a man) wearing a fancy hat and a cape? You are treading on very dangerous grounds here, you know .... No one has the right to define these concepts.  To each is their own understanding of it.  What happened showed the world how much the West is ready to compromise its own promoted 'universal' values of tolerance and respect for others' beliefs.

I would argue instead that others are abusing West's values of tolerance in order to obtain political gains.

You know nothing about the Prophet, yet feel no embarrassment to display your ignorance so openly.  At least do some reading before trying to debate something.

Your tone of barely concealed condescension shows us why you are unable to advance as societies: thinking that others are informed or stupid, and you and only you know exactly the truth, is a form a intolerance peculiar to religious people. I did read many biographies of the prophet and many books studying the history of islam. Not as many as about christianism, but enough to know how ridiculous any islamic believer is . . .  

Originally posted by Voyager I would argue instead that others are abusing West's values of tolerance in order to obtain political gains.

You're the ones preaching tolerance and respect for others' beliefs and practicing the opposite.  Make up your minds.

Originally posted by Mira No one has the right to define these concepts.� To each is their own understanding of it.�

And here it is ok to joke about anything and everything (caricatures are NOT considered to be insults). You apparently don't understand that and are trying to impose your definitions on us. These things work both ways, you know.