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warhead
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Topic: Biggest Empires Posted: 14-Jan-2005 at 14:00 |
"unless the encyclopedia book which was right in front of my face at the time is lieing the you would be right. it didnt say what the square miles were in his empire but it did say it was 8,000 miles east to west and 2,000 miles north to south. to find square mileage you would multiply 8,000 by 2,000 and you get 16 million sq miles."
Thats a poor way of calculating, The japanese empire was 5000 miles east to west, and 7000 miles north to south, do you just multiply them?
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exodussian
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 07:45 |
Maybe helps you OTTOMAN EMPRE
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Mangudai
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 12:52 |
One question, how much of Africa south of the first Nile cataract did the Osmanly actually controll?
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azimuth
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 13:11 |
that map does not show the Ottoman Empire only and that big part in africa was not totally part of the Ottoman,
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 21:58 |
I think it was at least vassalized
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An nescite quantilla sapientia mundus regatur?
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Vamun Tianshu
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 22:13 |
Didn't the Ottoman use guns?Or no?
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Vamun Tianshu
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 22:22 |
How about these guys?
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warhead
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 01:53 |
ITs wrong, Ihsan already showed a better map of the Xiongnu empire, Its height of expansion was around 130 b.c. not 63 b.c. by then most of Tarim has already passed out of their control to the Han.
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warhead
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 01:55 |
"How about these guys?"
They are already on my list, # 5
1) Mongol empire: 9.3 million sq mile
2) Tang empire: 4.8 million sq mile
3) Tujue empire: 4 million sq mile
4) Umayyad Caliph: 3.5 million sq mile
5) Xiongnu empire: 2.4 million sq mile
6) Roman empire: 2.4 million sq mile
7) Achmenid empire: 2.3 million sq mile
8) Macedonian Empire: 2.2 million sq mile
9) Xianbei empire: 1.9 million sq mile
10) Seljuk Empire: 1.8 million sq mile
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coolstorm
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 14:28 |
How about the Han Empire? I suppose it's a little smaller than the Tang.
Also, the Manchu Empire.
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 16:39 |
Manchu was post-gunpowder
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 17:52 |
"Manchu was post-gunpowder "
So were Tang, Song, Mongolian, and Ming.
Gunpowder was invented in the Han dynasty.
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ChineseManchurian
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Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 06:36 |
I think the Manchu(Qing) empire is the biggest in the world. It is even bigger than Mongol empire(Yuan) in China.
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azimuth
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Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 06:52 |
Originally posted by warhead
"How about these guys?"
They are already on my list, # 5
1) Mongol empire: 9.3 million sq mile
2) Tang empire: 4.8 million sq mile
3) Tujue empire: 4 million sq mile
4) Umayyad Caliph: 3.5 million sq mile
5) Xiongnu empire: 2.4 million sq mile
6) Roman empire: 2.4 million sq mile
7) Achmenid empire: 2.3 million sq mile
8) Macedonian Empire: 2.2 million sq mile
9) Xianbei empire: 1.9 million sq mile
10) Seljuk Empire: 1.8 million sq mile
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what about the Abbasids Caliphate? , they were larger than the Macedonian
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Posted: 09-Feb-2005 at 18:58 |
"what about the Abbasids Caliphate? , they were larger than the Macedonian"
I didn't put in Abassid or Han because they are connected to the Imperial conquest of Ummayad and Tang
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Posted: 10-Feb-2005 at 18:11 |
The power of the Abbasids was almost as shortlived as that of the Macedonians. Succesive waves of slave revolts, Buyjids, Ghazinivds and Turks all conspired to make the Abbasid Caliphs fill a role rather like that of the modern pappacy. They were a religious authority but the political power had passed from their hands. Even before that most of the lands under the Caliph had a defacto independence. Emirs who had been appointed by the Caliph, their succesion became dynastics and so they ruled themselves, like the Samanid Empire for instance.
The Kushan empire in central Asia was large both in size and in influence. During their time they were at the center of exchange of culture between the East and West. They were largly responsibe for Buddisms spread to China from India for example. At diffent times in history they fought against the Parthians, Sassanids, Xiong-nu, Bactrians, Indians, Hans, Sacas, Romans and the White Huns (Hephalites).
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Posted: 10-Feb-2005 at 21:25 |
Does sheer size really matter?
The Mongols were the biggest, even after Ghengis died I think Kublai was considered the Great Khan and the other technically owed him allegience. But I don't think they compare to the Chinese Sung dynasty who built paddle boats, complex water clocks had extensive overseas trade networks and a large population. They might have been smaller but they were better, more learned, more people etc. And they are just one of many including the Romans, Byzantines, great Muslim empires, Incas, Indains, Chinese who BUILT empires. The ability to ride across a piece of land, kill everyone, and take their stuff does not a great empire make.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2005 at 00:15 |
2.4 million for Rome? wasnt that the general empire size for about a century? For a number of years the empire extended itself briefly to include close to 1 million more miles (Trajan).
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Posted: 12-Feb-2005 at 05:30 |
The Tujue Empire (Gktrk) was the third biggest empire in history. Also the Achemenid Empire of Persian was huge as I know...
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