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Poll Question: Who should we let join the EU?
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    Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 05:46

Originally posted by Kubrat

Does it matter how the name is spelled?  Is it Hellas, Grcka, Gurcia, or Greece?  Is it Balgarija, Bugarska, or Bulgaria?  Turkey, Turchia, Turcia, or Turkiye?  TheDiplomat said that he acknowledged your freedom of speech, don't forget to acknowledge his.

Friend Kubrat,after getting responded in his each assumption about why Turkiye should not be in Europe,this funny kid must have thought he could mock at least with our country's english name....And i wanted to give this boy a  little historical lesson.Thats all

what do you think about Turkiye's membership?i actually would value your opinion very much in this context.

Originally posted by Kubrat

Is it Balgarija,Bulgarska or Bulgaria?

It is Bulgaristan
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Woah..i  clicked my uni's web-site and learned that My university is a member of EUA-European University Association now...my university is quite a new one if we think it was establish in 1997.
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Turkey EU entry as big as 'D-Day'
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Joschka Fischer said Turkey was "heavyweight"
German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer has said Turkish entry to the European Union would be as important for Europe as the D-Day invasion 60 years ago.
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Originally posted by TheDiplomat

 
 
German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer has said Turkish entry to the European Union would be as important for Europe as the D-Day invasion 60 years ago.

 

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Canada can't be more european than Ukraina because the Ukraina is 100% europe.
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It will be important?Now that's really a joke!The thing that will be important from it's entry is the problems that it will cause.It's different to have a minority of Turks from having a whole state inside the E.U.A state with a terrible economic situation,a state that thinks how can save money for more weapons,a state with a corruption four times bigger than Greece,a state where the slavers exploit their fellow Asians sending them to Greece and the rest of Europe.But the important thing is a state servant to the USA.A state that threatens a European country everyday.Of course Fischer does not know all that or he just plays the duck as E.U knows to play it well.The eastern European countries of course do not have any problem because they simply want to show America that can be good pets in NATO.As for Britain the usual story:What America says is the law. 
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Why don't we put Egypt,Jordan,Syria inside E.U?They are as Europeans as Turkey is! 
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Posts: 1066 		  Quote coolstorm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Nov-2004 at 07:12

A better question might be whether we should evaluate the admission to EU based upon cultures, political reasons, or geographical condition.

Turkey is geographically located in western Europe. It is also EU's interest to expand to the East for political reasons.

But Turkey is however culturally less European than some nations such as Canada, Australia, Russia.



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Originally posted by coolstorm

Turkey is geographically located in western Europe.

I must buy new maps, these which i have seems to be wrong.

Originally posted by coolstorm

But Turkey is however culturally less European than some nations such as Canada, Australia, Russia.

Canada, Australia and Russia, all are the same
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I think everyone should be allowed to join the EU, and it's name should be changed to the "Everyone Union".
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It couldn't exist an "Everyone Union" so easily because there are many political,econimical,cultural,social differences between Europe and the rest of the world(mainly Asia and Africa).You're wrong coolstorm.Turkey is in Asia and only a small part,a really small part is in the Balkans.Another mistake you've done is that you said "less European".My friend,Turkey is not European at all!I do not think tha E.U would like to expand in an unstable area(Iran,Iraq,Syria,Kurdistan) where there is no sign of economic prosperity and with the constant danger to get involved in a bloody war with a great political,economical cost and with a great cost in lives. 
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Originally posted by Spartakus

Of course Fischer does not know all that  

Yeah...The German Foreign minister does not know.But you must know it for sure..Because you are a Greek!

Oh,god..how can this pan-hellenist approach accomplish making people themselves so laughable?.

Originally posted by Spartakus

Why don't we put Egypt,Jordan,Syria inside E.U?They are as Europeans as Turkey is! 

Really?i will not even attemp to argue on that if you put all under the same category....

Oh boy you made my day great!



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It's your category my friend.And you know sth?I've made you a favor because you're not even Arabs.We are neighbors so of course we know what kind of people you are.Do not be pathetic talking about Hellenism,because it's the only thing your miserable country showed in the Eurovision contest as "Turkey's touristic places".
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Originally posted by Spartakus

I've made you a favor because you're not even Arabs.

 we know what kind of people you are.

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Originally posted by Temujin

Canada can't be more european than Ukraina because the Ukraina is 100% europe.

Buddy,i guess stybiorn evaluates it in terms os standart of living.
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Yeah,-sigh-.You do not have any arguments,do you?
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why all the greeks in all empires are so fascist?

Anatolia now belongs to Turkey and those places are our touristic places.
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But do not forget none of the tourist places were created by Turks. There is no pan-hellenism in these postings, I guess its just a common thought that Turkey does not belong in the E.U. IF they did Greece would greatly benefit and it would help our country economically, but you see, the line must be drawn somewhere, and this is where we think it should.

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Originally posted by TheDiplomat

Originally posted by Temujin

Canada can't be more european than Ukraina because the Ukraina is 100% europe.


Buddy,i guess stybiorn evaluates it in terms os standart of living.


No, but in cultural/political terms.

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Originally posted by Jagatai Khan

why all the greeks in all empires are so fascist?

Watch your language if you want us to get along!

 

 
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