Gays in the military

Eh, yeah i heard about that. But he, those soldiers may feel uncomfortable working around homosexual translators, hell, they might even feel they are trying to chat up the enemy, perhaps its best to go without.


Edited by Cywr

Some Byzantium general was suspoedly gay, and i heard this from somewhere the other day, possibly on another forum. Can't renember who though.

Originally posted by Tobodai from the people in the military I have met I would say many if not most are already gay (if they know it or not is another matter) they allow women in the military and they can get hit on by other soldiers, why not guys. Its homphobic to think that it will just cause someone is gay they are out to hit on all the guys around them. For such a relatively small percent of the population gays and bis have a much better record at military prowess than straigts anyway, Romans, Spartans, Central Asians, Japanese, all were cultures more accpeting of queerness than the western world.

I agree - you cannot stop but I still support the don't ask - don tell policy.
I cannot imgaine a gay pride parade in the military. Now, that could cause anger and division in our ranks. As for women in the military I thinks it is great for support but not combat. There are the 5-10% who would do good in combat but most are not made for it, physically or mentally.

but this is for another thread- sorry!!

Originally posted by hugoestr Eaglecap, Gay men in the military are probably the ultra-macho type; your comparison with females is not warranted. The ultra-macho dude is more manly than a John Wayne character.    If they lined up for us to pick the gay ones, we would mistake them for sure heterosexuals. A gay pride parade would look just like another parade, except that some may be waiving a rainbow flag. Considering that plenty of homosexuals served in WWII and had an active sex life, I wouldn't worry about it causing too much distress with the other guys.

I respect your view but I will always oppose the gays coming out in the military- don't ask - don't tell. But if it is found out I also oppose kicking them out. WWII they had to play very low profile because in that period there was zero tolerance towards homosexuals, so you cannot compare that period to today. You view is your right of free expression so I am only stating what I believe.
I neve hide what I think from anyone and even my gay friends know where I stand, but I found they respect me all the more. They are you average gays and not the extreme radicals who want to push it on everyone as the norm. Come to think of it what is normal????

Gay soldiers are a very important part of the military.In anchient greece gay soldiers made the formation of phallanx exellent.Because they took their boyfriends into war they wathched out for each other more thatn ever.

In modern times these soldiers are more effective in battle.Also more organized.They do not lust wmen when  they are away from the opposite sex.But thei outlaws could be terrible!Harrassment in the showers eeeeeeeeewwww!!

William III (Stadholder of the Republic, king of England) was gay too

William III (Stadholder of the Republic, king of England) was gay too

Bi i'd say.

Some Medival English king was supposidly gay too.

Gay soldiers are a very important part of the military.In anchient greece gay soldiers made the formation of phallanx exellent.Because they took their boyfriends into war they wathched out for each other more thatn ever.

As I've said, this is ridiculous, but you don't seem to get it. I suggest you do some serious reading before you post this again.

You are refring to the Symposium of Plato, where we find what all self proclaimed wanna-be historians call the "sacred band of Thebes" and use the text to support their theory.
In all sites I've seen this presented as an argument they all use this "translation":

" (an army should be made up of lovers and their loves)"

When you take a look at the original text you find:
"(genesthai e stratopedon eraston te kai paidikon)"

So, we find the alleged lover theory but NO eromenos= (the "passive" lover according to the stupid theory they support)
but we find (paidikon) that means (a child, boyish, still in use today in modern Hellinic see "paidi") a very common word in Hellinic texts.

The strategic innovation of Gorgidas, was to change the form of Thebean battle tactics. Untill then the young (students)=(strength) were the front line and the older (tutor)= (knowledge) were in the rear.
He mixed them, combining the strength of the young with the knoledge of the old thus, creating an unbeatable army.

To top this off, just read what Philip said, when he saw them lying dead after the battle at Chaeronea. 'Perish miserably they who think that these men did or suffered aught disgraceful!'"

Originally posted by Phallanx Gay soldiers are a very important part of the military.In anchient greece gay soldiers made the formation of phallanx exellent.Because they took their boyfriends into war they wathched out for each other more thatn ever. You are refring to the Symposium of Plato,

I'm afraid i'm not

hugoestr
No offence taken, it's not your fault, that these half-wits are titled professor.

Say a big HELLO to your professors from Hellas!!!

I'd really like to hear what they have to say about the arguments presented in the Greek, Roman channel topic "homosexuality in Rome".

It would also be quite interesting to see if these "professors speak the language and if they do, how they translate "genesthai � stratopedon erast�n* te kai paidik�n," found in the original text you gave and I noted before. If you do ask them, please do inform me of their answers.
It's been some time since I've had a really good laugh.

ak�nc� I'm afraid i'm not.......... Facts should never offend anyone

I'd love to hear your source then and why not have a laugh while reading it. I do agree that facts don't hurt, but you must also agree that ignorance does.