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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Topic: Could Tari-khana be a pagan Turkish templ Posted: 04-Jan-2005 at 01:04 |
Tari-Khana: http://www.itto.org/attraction/attraction.asp?status=showatt raction&attractid=Ta92&prv=smn
As I said here: The oldest mosques, Tari-Khana is the oldest mosque in Iran, it was in fact an ancient Sassanid fire temple that about three hundreds years after Islam was changed to a mosque, but is it possible that it was also used as a temple by Turkish invaders? especillay because Tari-Khana is a Turkish term which means "the house of God".
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Posted: 09-Jan-2005 at 12:43 |
but is it possible that it was also used as a temple by Turkish invaders? |
I don't think so because the Turkic peoples didn't have temples for worship (but the Gk Trk people had some sacred caves in Central Mongolia).
especillay because Tari-Khana is a Turkish term which means "the house of God". |
Is it?
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Posted: 09-Jan-2005 at 15:33 |
Wait, your's must be Teri.
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Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 03:22 |
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is the picture in your signeture a Tomb?
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Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 05:26 |
It is a nomad tent...........
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Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 05:54 |
Is/Was Tari-Khana or Tenri-Khana just Turkish word for Mosque?
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Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 06:01 |
i think Khana means room in Turkish, persian and Urdo.
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Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 10:12 |
Originally posted by Alparslan
It is a nomad tent...........
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it looks like there is a tomb inside it
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Posted: 13-Jan-2005 at 00:16 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
Is/Was Tari-Khana or Tenri-Khana just Turkish word for Mosque? |
What does it mean tari in Persian? If there is not any meaning so it could be thought that there may be a relation between Tari and Tengri or Tanri as we called today God in Turksih.
This is really interesting!!!!!!
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Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 06:01 |
Azimuth, that's a nomadic tent as Alparslan said (with many Turko-Russo-Mongol names like Yurt, Ger, Eb, y, etc).
Cyrus, there are no Turkish words for Mosque. We say "Cmi" to larger mosques and "Mescd" to smaller ones (though actually in Arabic, Masjd and Jmi are used for the same type of building).
Such an expression like "Tanr Evi" or "Teri Ebi" (House of God) doesn't exist in Turkic, at least AFAIK.
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Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 10:14 |
As you know Damghan or as the Greeks called it Hecatompylos (a city with one hundred gates) was once the capital of the Parthian empire, I'm not sure but is possible that "Tari" in Parthian language means "God", this website says that name of the Parthian king Gotarzes ( Kuw-tari) means "god of the state." it also says that the name of Vonones was Tutuk-tari but the interesting thing is that it suggests to read: http://www.lostlanguages.com/parthian.htm for name of the Parthian king, with the correct Turkish reading and it's meaning!!
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Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 13:17 |
Teri seems to be a common Altaic word. I suppose Turko-Mongolic Tanr/Teri/Teggri/Tegeri/Teger, Sumerian Dingir, Chinese Tiān 天, Japanese Tennō, Korean Dangun and Etruscan Tinis/Tins are related, eventhough they have different meanings. In Japanese and Korean, they are legendary founders of those nations, in Etruscan it's used for Iupiter/Zeus and in Sumerian it's a common name for "deity". Now, Turko-Mongol and Chinese have the exact same meaning but Turko-Mongol Teri can be also used as a common word for "deity", just like Sumerian Dingir. Yet I also have to learn the Tungusic and perhaps Elamite equivalents of this term.
Btw, Lost Languages is not a reliable site.
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Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 20:44 |
Etruscan is an altaic tongue....really? never heard of such a thing.
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Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 22:42 |
Tari is not Turkish...Much less "tari-khana".
Tanr is Turkish for god or diety. (notice it's the letter not i).
Besides, the Turks already had their own religion.
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Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 08:30 |
To our Persian forumers.........
What does tari mean in Persian? I think there is a meaning related with Turks if I am not mistaken?
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Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 09:30 |
Tari mean "Darkness" in Persian but "House of the Darkness" is not a good name for mosque!
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Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 15:26 |
Etruscan is an altaic tongue....really? never heard of such a thing. |
I didn't say Etruscan was Altaic. I just said the Etruscan name Tinis might have been related with Teri.
What does tari mean in Persian? I think there is a meaning related with Turks if I am not mistaken? |
Remember that Persian a sounds more similar to Turkish e (but not exactly the same sound, more like the a as in Apple) and Persian sounds more like Turkish a. So "Tari-khne" would be written in Turkish as "Ter-hne".
Tanr is Turkish for god or diety. (notice it's the letter not i). |
But it's "Tanr" only in Anatolian Turkish, it's Teri, Tegri, Teger, Tegeri, etc in other dialects/languages.
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