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    Posted: 30-Dec-2006 at 12:46

There are only a couple of pure races on this planet one being the aboriginals.There was a very good programme about race on the bbc called "who do you think you are" where by using dna testing they trace you family.

 
 
 
 
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Waerden, Bartel L. van der: The Conjunction of 3102 B.C., Centaurus 24 (1980), pp.117-131, wherein he deals with the issue of "conjunction" - all planets coming together on 17th / 18th February 3102 BCE and observed by man.
 
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Originally posted by M. Nachiappan

 
1. A planetary conjunction occurred at c.3102 BCE.
 


What is the significance of this "conjunction" and what references are there that mention and describe this conjunction?
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According the Puranas (The Oldest Hostorical Narratives), after the Mahabharat War (The Great War), in which many ancient nations participated, the nations and the respective people were scattered, dispersed and settled in different directions.
 
Incidentally, the even coincides with the following:
 
1. A planetary conjunction occurred at c.3102 BCE.
 
2. Starting of Kaliyuga / era.
 
3. Submergennce of Dwaraka.
 
4. The leaving earthly coil of Sri Krishna, the Emporor of Dwaraka.
 
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Originally posted by Vivek Sharma


This theory is the best explanation for the Indian History, religion, society & the Mythology.


How so? Elaborate.
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If racially interpreted, how would be the position after "miscege
nation"?
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Originally posted by RajputGirl

If that happened, Pakistanis would be PWNED. 
 
You know how Pakistani school-boys desperately try to emulate stereotypical African-American culture, so they would immediately worship Indians since Indians would be considered black and Pakistanis would still be looked at as curry munchers that own 7'11's.  

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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2006 at 21:44
We Indians are not caucasoid or european. The AIT is a colonial fallacy which has been proved wrong.
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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2006 at 21:42
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I have heard that the latest theory is that Indians were the first mass migration out of africa. This tribe went over the Arabian Peninsula and then down to the subcontinent where it multiplied massively and established deep roots. Now from this point on the migratory stream continued from India into south and north -east asia. The northerners met up and joined with another migration going further north now known as mongoloids and also crossed into Norther America over the Aleutian islands which were walkable back then 15,000 years ago. The southerners became the southeast asians, polynesians malays and austroloids.

There were a couple of other migrations out of africa too, one of them mixed with the remnants of the "desi" migrations in the Iranian Plateu and formed the begining of the Caucasus Asian aka Cauc-asian aka europids. The Europids moved northwest into Europe.

Now there were also obviously tribes that moved BACK further into africa. These would be the Africans.



According to this figure southern indians are austroloids, or polynesian types perhaps. I wonder what DNA testing would produce. Really extensive testing that is, not the handfuls of samples they have taken so far.

Note also that these arrows represent migratory journeys, between these paths obviously interbreeding and hybredization has also taken place. And I believe there should also be some reverse arrows representing back migration too which appear to be missing.


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  Quote explorer6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2006 at 15:21
Many Indians "wannabe" Caucasoids, but most are no closer in molecular DNA to Europeans than they are to Chinese.

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Originally posted by RajputGirl

I believe Indians should be classed as africans
 
If that happened, Pakistanis would be PWNED. 
 
You know how Pakistani school-boys desperately try to emulate stereotypical African-American culture, so they would immediately worship Indians since Indians would be considered black and Pakistanis would still be looked at as curry munchers that own 7'11's.
 
You have an unhealthy obsession with Pakistanis. The guy Raksh or whatever isnt even Pakistani..isnt this obvious from the flag of his avatar. Just because someone says something you consider to be derogatory (and most of the world wonders why you consider it to be derogatory), does not mean they are Pakistani!
 
Do grow up!


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I have heard that the latest theory is that Indians were the first mass migration out of africa. This tribe went over the Arabian Peninsula and then down to the subcontinent where it multiplied massively and established deep roots. Now from this point on the migratory stream continued from India into south and north -east asia. The northerners met up and joined with another migration going further north now known as mongoloids and also crossed into Norther America over the Aleutian islands which were walkable back then 15,000 years ago. The southerners became the southeast asians, polynesians malays and austroloids.

There were a couple of other migrations out of africa too, one of them mixed with the remnants of the "desi" migrations in the Iranian Plateu and formed the begining of the Caucasus Asian aka Cauc-asian aka europids. The Europids moved northwest into Europe.

Now there were also obviously tribes that moved BACK further into africa. These would be the Africans.



According to this figure southern indians are austroloids, or polynesian types perhaps. I wonder what DNA testing would produce. Really extensive testing that is, not the handfuls of samples they have taken so far.

Note also that these arrows represent migratory journeys, between these paths obviously interbreeding and hybredization has also taken place. And I believe there should also be some reverse arrows representing back migration too which appear to be missing.
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  Quote RajputGirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Nov-2006 at 03:28
I believe Indians should be classed as africans
 
If that happened, Pakistanis would be PWNED. 
 
You know how Pakistani school-boys desperately try to emulate stereotypical African-American culture, so they would immediately worship Indians since Indians would be considered black and Pakistanis would still be looked at as curry munchers that own 7'11's.   
 
 


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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Oct-2006 at 07:23
Eventually it proves that there are no major diferences in the north & south of Indian subcontinent.
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  Quote Rakhsh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Nov-2005 at 08:58

Thanks for pointing it out as a Theory, just because it is more widely accepted does not mean I have to believe in it or agree with it.

But you can believe we came from Africa and I will believe central Asia and Middle East

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 09:36
But of what evidence is so far available, majority of it points to an out of Africa origin, hence the reason it is by far the most widely accepted theory.
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  Quote Rakhsh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 04:51
That is true to a point, yes, we are all human beings but I am trying to state that the out of africa is a theory.... For all we know we could have originated in the Middle east and moved south, north, east and west etc there is not enough evidence to support africa.... Also one reason is there is no conclusive evidence as we are always finding out new things.
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Oct-2005 at 19:21
Ehm? 

How can you diferentiate genetically an Iranian from an Arab? Genetic diferentiation happened mostly in Prehistory and both Arabs and Iranians had the genes that have now (more or less) before they were assimlated into either ethnicity.

Are we talking of Prehistory (out-of-Africa, most of gene distribution) or are we talking of recent history (assimilation into this or that ethnicity). I think that you are considered Arab or Iranian because of the language you speak or the affinity you feel, not because you have this or that gene - as the vast majority of people hasn't attempted to trace their genetic genealogical tree.

I know I'm Basque (with this or that mixture) but I've never tried to justify that using genetics. It's a question of where you live, what language you speak, how you feel integrated, where are your roots. I feel 100% Basque and my brother feels Spaniard instead. National or ethnic adscription is mostly a mental state.

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