The most influential people of the Millenium.

Originally posted by Faran And I would also include the prophet Mohammad...don't you think so?

someone already said that, i guess you had the same temporary brain lapse that they did.

its the most influential people of the millenium.  Mohammed did not live in this millenium,

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Originally posted by Right on target Hitler was responsible for WWII WWII is responsible for the New World Order and a permenant change in the world so......if you put those together, Hitler was very influential, although perhaps a little indirectly If you put it this way then Hitlers gramps are the most influantial figures , as they were responsible for Hitler , who was responsible for ww2 and so on. What about Jesus then. He had no direct ancestors , leave out God himself.And after all , Hitler's tale lasted a decade or so. wheras Jesus has been rocking the world for a long time , and Bible is the number 1 bestseller of all times.The second is "the Principia" by Isaak Newton.

the thread about people who lived in the last 1000 years

 

John Paul II

Originally posted by Styrbiorn Originally posted by azimuth Originally posted by Temujin Mohammed (the prophet I assume) is not part of the millenium. Not the Prophet they meant the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire called Mohammed the conquerore and Mehmet II No I didn't.

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Mohammed the Prophet was in the Century 6

so he is not included in the last millenium which started in the Century 11

Mohammed II of the Ottoman was in the Century 16.

 

 

But Fatih's success was one of the most important reasons to end this system...

The increasing power of centralised authorities and the rise of market towns as an important source of income for them is what ended feudalism, the system ended because it was obsolete, plain and simple.
And it didn't end over night, parts of Europe had a semi-feudal system running right up untill the 1800s.

Unless of course, you are speaking of Feudalism within the Ottoman Empire or something

Economics is alwyas more important than military in the impact on society, the rise of market towns has alot more to do with the end of feudalism than any cannonbal could ever accomplish.  You can kill and rob many lords and ladies but more will just take their place, but if you make it economically unfeasable, no one will continue that lifestyle.

I'm surprised no one mentioned

STALIN

One of the most influential leaders in USSR and the communst countries.  Killed millions- and I mean, millions.  Started the cold war.  Started Korean war.  More to say?

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And others like

Graham Bell- Invented the telephone.  Kind of important now that everyone uses telephones one way or the other.

Morse- Morse code.  Used since American civil war,  Titanic,  WWI,  to mention a few.  Still used today If I'm correct

Francis Drake- Without him, I doubt Britain's influence over world, as well as a Brtish colony that would later become a Superpower.

 

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Originally posted by Tobodai Hitler is probably , and unfortunatley, the most influential man of the melleniaum outside of science, but perhaps we will have to wait longer to truly see how far his influence extends, but its not just facism, its the whole arrangment of hte modern world.

What dramatic effects had the WW2 on the "arrangement of the wodern world", effects that were premanent and decisive?

I think, WW1 had far more lasting implications, both globally and in Europe: The Soviet Union, the emergence of the USA as World power, the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman Empires, the rise of fascism and so on. WW2 didn't really alter that much and most of its effects have already been reversed.

Who should we credit for WW1 and include in the list!  Gavrilo Prinzip, Franz Fredinand ( The Archduke, not the band!), Kaiser Wilhelm?

Originally posted by Murph WWII is responsible for the New World Order and a permenant change in the world

Most of the direct political consequences of WW2 , of which the Cold War with its two opposing alliances was probably the most important, have turned out to be not as permanent as once thought. The outcome of the anti-colonial wars of the 40s,50s and 60s are possibly far more momentous for the current �order� of the world, and that�s why Gandhi should be in the top 30.

Only if you understand the existence of the state of Israel as direct consequence of WW2 or the Holocaust, you might be right. The resolution of the Palestine problem with all its implications may indeed shape the things to come.

 

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Originally posted by Winterhaze13 Originally posted by gcle2003 Why are Hitler and Louis XIV in there? What influence have they had on history since their day? Or on the world today? Well, Hitler is influential because of fascism.

I don�t understand Hitler�s inclusion either. Was he influential, because the Nazis under his leadership were responsible for WW2 and the Holocaust? Apart from that, where else lay his influence ?

He didn�t contribute a single thing to the ideology of fascism, not even in its German variation. He did not have s single original thought in his life, his undoubted talents lay somewhere else. He was not political theorist, but picked up ideas as he went along, and sold them to the masses. And that he did rather successfully.