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Sea Gods 

Ak Ana (mother white), goddess of  sea. She is one who gives the idea of creation, but she is like Gaia or Rhea. a little bit pasif character. Her  symbol is white deer. She is like marmaid, has a fish tail. Sometimes  she is wife of 

Ak Ata (father white), a sea god. He has iron bow. Iron symbolizes power. He can turn a fish

Su Ata (father water), this is river and lake god. This is general name so, there is no seperate names for each river as in greek myhts. When someone is drowned, people say "Su ata took him" He also hates people who pollute the waters. You should throw a whole bread into the water to make him happy. Also when a bride go to far away. She has to be introduce local Su ata.  That's why people throw the bride into the water. 

Su Ana (mother water), wife of Su Ata. She likes shores and get out of the water. She has long black hairs and combs her hair with golden comb

Su İyesi: the name for Nymph in Turkic myhts
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Judist symbol Menorah is also symbol for burning bush in Mt Sinai and also there is other type whish has 9 branches ( Hanukkah) instead of 7 as in Menorah.

According to Turkish myths, Kayra han create a tree(pine or beech) and it has nine branches. The first nine human tribs come to this tree. I were Turkic pagan, I would buy one of them to symbolise my belief. Big smile 
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tengri is god of just and wrath who sit on altay and punish the people with thunderbolt LOL 

If you know lot, please tell me. My sources says different thing. According to them, Tengri doesn't have any shape also I believe there is something like trinity(this my idea)

Christianity        Greek Paganism     Tengrism/Mongol-Turkic Paganism
Holy Spirit            Uranos                                 Tengri
God                      Kronos                                 Kayra Han
Jesus                    Zeus                                    Ülgen

Ulgen is son of Kayra han and he is the one who can send thunders.


 



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hey wait a minutes i didn't see that awesome horse . she is very similar to pegasus isn't she ?? i should read all about them they are awesome Hug

Don't u think that Pegasus, some kind of horse Big smile It is also national emblem for some countries

Kazakhestan                                                                Mongolia
 

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well all i know about itbarak was what my grandmother told me when is was a child LOL if i do some bad thing like lie i should tell the truth be4 the dark or if i steal something i must give it back otherwise itbarak will come after me after the dark LOL i just guess they maybe born from Asena  u are saying Asena is holy beast, guide creature I thought we born form her !!! you are telling me she is not mother of our people but a "guide creature" in dada korkut its said he is a ghostly wolf who can turn in to human and he is very wise  ( im not sure i just read very small part of it from internet) dose asena has same ability ?? 

I just meant Asena symbolize good thing so I couldn't think her with itbaraks and yes, you are right, she is also mother of Turks
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İtbaraks are wolf-men who lived in north-west of Oghuz lands and they are enemies, but Asena is not like that it is holy beast, guide creature. Like Tulpar, they are not god


well all i know about itbarak was what my grandmother told me when is was a child LOL if i do some bad thing like lie i should tell the truth be4 the dark or if i steal something i must give it back otherwise itbarak will come after me after the dark LOL i just guess they maybe born from Asena  u are saying Asena is holy beast, guide creature I thought we born form her !!! you are telling me she is not mother of our people but a "guide creature" in dada korkut its said he is a ghostly wolf who can turn in to human and he is very wise  ( im not sure i just read very small part of it from internet) dose asena has same ability ?? 

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hey wait a minutes i didn't see that awesome horse . she is very similar to pegasus isn't she ?? i should read all about them they are awesome Hug


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well your links are filter and blocked in iran 

I am sorry for hear that. Cry

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very lovely gods LOL I thought we only worship the tangri

where can i find some information on turkic mythology

 In Turkey, there are not much people who able to talk about mythology. If you find someone can, that will be Greek one, not Turkic mythology. I was thinking like you such a few years ago but now I don't think like that way. we don't know much. The main sources are legends. 

Originally posted by yomud

ok lets put the dada korkut aside i still don't get it what's connection between Tengri and Asena for me Asena  is the symbol of love and family and tengri is god of just and wrath who sit on altay and punish the people with thunderbolt LOL 

I don't think there is a someone in Turkey who associate wolf with love and family. Turks look at the wolf figure like lion. just in power case.

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am i wrong legend says we born from human and she wolf and we turks are the children who has more human blood than wolf and itbaraks are the children who has more wolf blood than human one(if im not wrong) so they has wolf or doge head and wolf abilitys ok than whats the tangris roles on our life ?? how it become our god ?? 

İtbaraks are wolf-men who lived in north-west of Oghuz lands and they are enemies, but Asena is not like that it is holy beast, guide creature. Like Tulpar, they are not god
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 ok lets put the dada korkut aside  i still don't get it what's connection between Tengri and Asena for me Asena  is the symbol of love and family and tengri is god of just and wrath who sit on altay and punish the people with thunderbolt LOL am i wrong legend says we born from human and she wolf and we turks are the children who has more human blood than wolf and itbaraks are the children who has more wolf blood than human one(if im not wrong) so they has wolf or doge head and wolf abilitys ok than whats the tangris roles on our life ?? how it become our god ??
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very lovely work but sadly i dont know them except tengri  can u introduce them for me Tongue

Tengri is Skygod-Göktanrı, that's why he is blue
Erlik is underground god, it is similar with Hades
Ulgen/Ülgen is similar with Baldr. He is god of goodness. He is also like Prometheus. He helps humanity
Asena is she-wolf like in Roman mthys. When all Turk died, she grew up one Turkish boy who dosn't have arms and legs. Look at Destan of "Türeyiş" 

but I don't know other gods
Ay is moon goddess
Koyash is sun god

Originally posted by yomud

 
whats the connection between them and dada korkutt or kor oghlu ?? u told me be4 the koroghlu  live in ottoman era but it's story is different in our town . today i find out the story has different type in every turkic area LOL

*Actually I have never read "Dede Korkut" but I found it at home. I am planing to read it. 

*Do you like my link? How was its language? I have wanted ro mean that Koroghlu in Central Asia is different than Koroglu in Turkey. Turk took the old Central Asian legend about Koroghlu and used it
well your links are filter and blocked in iran

very lovely gods LOL I thought we only worship the tangri

where can i find some information on turkic mythology



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very lovely work but sadly i dont know them except tengri  can u introduce them for me Tongue

Tengri is Skygod-Göktanrı, that's why he is blue
Erlik is underground god, it is similar with Hades
Ulgen/Ülgen is similar with Baldr. He is god of goodness. He is also like Prometheus. He helps humanity
Asena is she-wolf like in Roman mthys. When all Turk died, she grew up one Turkish boy who dosn't have arms and legs. Look at Destan of "Türeyiş" 

but I don't know other gods
Ay is moon goddess
Koyash is sun god

Originally posted by yomud

 
whats the connection between them and dada korkutt or kor oghlu ?? u told me be4 the koroghlu  live in ottoman era but it's story is different in our town . today i find out the story has different type in every turkic area LOL

*Actually I have never read "Dede Korkut" but I found it at home. I am planing to read it. 

*Do you like my link? How was its language? I have wanted ro mean that Koroghlu in Central Asia is different than Koroglu in Turkey. Turk took the old Central Asian legend about Koroghlu and used it
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very lovely work but sadly i dont know them except tengri  can u introduce them for me Tongue

whats the connection between them and dada korkutt or kor oghlu ?? u told me be4 the koroghlu  live in ottoman era but it's story is different in our town . today i find out the story has different type in every turkic area LOL


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The Turkic Pantheon, according to Marvel comics 
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godsmongolian.htm



I think this project has just done to able to say we did it. It is not a good work. I can't see much creativity, but putting winged-horse(accepting that it is not unique for greek culture) and wolf also blue skinned god idea is nice.Wink

They have also similar works for other god version
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