Muslims and the Caste System

Cryptic is correct, people just use religion as a fig leaf to cover up how they really do things behind the scenes. A pig with lipstic look a lot different but in reality it is still just another pig.

Interesting info telde. I think there may be some truth to it, but not to the extent that the caste system didn't exist. Influence from the Gangietic valley will have definitely introduced this into the indus valley.
Pathans & Baluchis have never had castes, but in Sindh and Punjab  I still think there was.

Pakistan's 70% poulation is divided in more than 1000 castes....Like hindus they have brahmins, Jats, gujars, rajputs, arains. They also have muslim subcastes as maulavis, pathans, Moghals, shiehk, saiyyeds and Qureshis (related to Prophet Mohammed's, MPBUH) etc...

I don't agree with these muslim castes. For the simple reason that one of the important factors about a caste is that they don't intermarry, and I would fall into multiple categories (mughali, syed, quraeshi) (+most people who call themselves Quraeshi in Pakistan & India have no relation to the Quraeshi tribe, they took the name when they converted)

Originally posted by TeldeInduz Omar, ^ if you have a reference for caste system being present in Pakistan at any point in its history, I'd like to see it. I'm not referring to ethnicity of course here, just a philosophy accepted in Pakistan by everyone, that one group of people was superior to other groups. i.e Similar to the accepted philosophy in India (at least in the Hindu groups) that the Brahmins are superior, the Kshatriyas are below them etc..

Yes the vision of Jajiya, forced conversions like etc... Pakistan was not even able to accept the basis of its partiotion that it was the nation for indian muslims & called them refugees. It is only due to the old Indian heritage that it can claim what it claims.

Hindus have been living in the pakistan region for thousands of years, they'll have the caste system. Just because Buddhists and Muslims don't have one doesn't mean that pakistan has never had one.

If that is the case, wherever, Aryans went, there should have been / should be such stratification.   Then , how is that only in India "caste" is talked about?

Take the example of the British. Not everywhere the British went did a South African segregated state emerge. In other places the racial & class divide was much smaller, in others there was much less.
The formation of divides between communites is quite complicated, the structure will not appear in all places just because the same people went there.

but this was after they had left Pakistan which is why the caste system is not present in Pakistan now, I suppose.

Not really, the caste system was present amoungst the people of pakistan between now and then

Originally posted by M. Nachiappan Incidentally, I would like to ask one question:   According to Mamueller and others, the Vedic Aryans created caste / Varna system.   If that is the case, wherever, Aryans went, there should have been / should be such stratification.   Then , how is that only in India "caste" is talked about?

Their is a caste system everywhere. the non Indian caste systems are much more harmful than the Indian ones.

Again the ignorant, knowledge challenged, rabble rousing due to the inferiority complex.

Do some homework & find out what caste is. At least you will not look like a intellect-challenged person in an intellectual topic.


 

 Pakistani Muslims claiming to be Rajput, Brahmin, Khatri and Jatt seriously impede their "We're not like Indian Hindus" campaign. 

Id Mubarak to all Muslim brothers.
AP Singh