New Abu Ghraib abuse photos
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Topic: New Abu Ghraib abuse photos
Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Subject: New Abu Ghraib abuse photos
Date Posted: 15-Feb-2006 at 16:49
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 15-Feb-2006 at 17:41
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little wonder why they wanted to keep these ones under wraps.. ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-Feb-2006 at 18:06
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http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abughraib1.jpg"> An unmuzzled dog appears to be used to frighten a detainee at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. The http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43785-2004May20.html - Washington Post just released new photos (May 20), seen below. http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/new-toture3.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/new-toture3.jpg A baton-wielding US soldier, appears to be ordering a naked detainee May 19 http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/Investigation/abu_ghraib_photos_040519.html - ABC News has obtained two new photos taken at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq showing Spc. Charles Graner and Spc. Sabrina Harmon posing over the body of a detainee who was allegedly beaten to death by CIA or civilian interrogators in the prison's showers. The detainee's name was Manadel al-Jamadi. http://www.antiwar.com/rothschild/?articleid=2615 - Mark Rothschild writes about the details of this poor man's death. http://www.antiwar.com/rothschild/?articleid=2615 http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/dead-iraqi2.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/dead-iraqi2.jpg http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/dead-iraqi1.jpg May 9: The New Yorker has http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040517fa_fact2 - released this latest photo. http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/dogs2.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/dogs2.jpg An Iraqi prisoner and American military dog handlers. Other photographs show the Iraqi on the ground, bleeding. http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse1.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse1.jpg http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse2.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse2.jpg http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse3.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse3.jpg http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse4.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse4.jpg http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse5.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse5.jpg It¡¯s the "liberation" of the Iraqi people ¨C and it isn¡¯t pretty¡ http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture1.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture1.jpg These are just some of the photos that led to an investigation into conditions at the Abu Ghraib prison, once Saddam¡¯s torture palace, and now run by the occupation authorities, as revealed in http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/27/60II/main614063.shtml - a shocking report broadcast by CBS on 60 Minutes II. http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture3.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture3.jpg Brig. Gen. Janice Karpinski, in charge of the occupiers¡¯ detention facilities throughout Iraq, has been dismissed from her post, and 6 U.S. soldiers face charges. http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture2.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture2.jpg "This is international standards," said Karpinski, in an earlier interview with CBS. "It's the best care available in a prison facility." http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture4.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture4.jpg Anybody can see that¡. http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture5.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture5.jpg Below, Brigadier-General Janis Karpinski, who was responsible for military jails in Iraq, and has now been suspended in the abuse probe, meets with Donald Rumsfeld. http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/karpinski-rummy.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/karpinski-rummy.jpg And even more disturbing screen shots made available from http://globalfreepress.com/ - Global Free Press via http://www.thememoryhole.org/ - TheMemoryHole http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture7.jpg http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture10.jpg - http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture10.jpg These images are from the 60 Minutes II broadcast. CBS says that it has twelve of these photographs, though there are dozens more. Among them:
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-Feb-2006 at 19:01
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new ones http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/gallery/3274dateline_iraq.jpg - http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/gallery/3274dateline_ira q.jpg
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Posted By: D.C.
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 01:08
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For those of you with a morbid curiosity to watch the SBS report, here it is in its entirity (13 minutes): http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2698483 - http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2698483 |
Posted By: Byzantine Emperor
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 01:13
I love it how the media networks will not show the faces of Mohammed in the cartoons when they are covering the story, saying it will "fan the flames" of the extremist rioting, but at the same time are quite willing to show every single "abuse" photo they can get their grubby mitts on.  ------------- http://www.allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=12713 - Late Byzantine Military http://www.allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=17337 - Ottoman perceptions of the Americas |
Posted By: malizai_
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 07:17
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If a govt is reflection of its people. Then we have seen the ugly face of america. I cant believe there are no mass protest by the free, freedom loving american against their govts doing the world over. ------------- |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 07:17
| No this is worth getting really really angry over |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 09:39
"If you don't like the message, blame the messenger" ------------- |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 12:56
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Yawn, were the individuals involved not already punished? ------------- |
Posted By: Byzantine Emperor
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 13:14
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Thanks for the witticism. Furthermore, I can't stand most of the "messengers'" messages and I do blame them failing to report the news as news without using it for their propaganda campaign. So what's your point? I have always had no reservations in amplifying my disgust at the American media. ------------- http://www.allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=12713 - Late Byzantine Military http://www.allempires.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=17337 - Ottoman perceptions of the Americas |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 14:39
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What should they do then? Keep it under the table? Why should the media report only atrocities committed by others on Americans and not the other way around? People who claim this is all propaganda probably only care because it is propaganda for the other side. If the media blows a terrorist threat way out of proportion they don't have a problem with such propaganda. ------------- |
Posted By: SearchAndDestroy
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 16:31
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These came from the same time line as the others. Twenty five officers and soldiers have all recieved some kind of punishment depending on how far their involvement was. The investigation was done to see how far up in the military ranks it went, even Donald Rumsfield was investigated. About there being protests, there have been protests from the beginning of the war. Do you honestly belive Cindy Shehan has stopped her protesting? They aren't shown on the news because they don't break things, they aren't violent, and there is nothing to make news off of it so you won't hear about them. My opinion, it's very disgusting. I'm glad this isn't something that the US military supports. And no Malizai, Americans don't support this thing. There are hundreds of groups in the US that complain and file lawsuits against the gov't for numerous reasons. I mean, there's even a group that filed a lawsuit on the US government for enviromental reasons just recently. We are very free minded people, we are individuals, and we all have our own personal opinions on politics. There's no way you could say we all agree with this. A good example, look at all the Americans on this message board, we all very on our politics and we are always disagreeing on how things should be done. ------------- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." E.Abbey 
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 16:43
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No apparently these pictures (and videos) have incriminated a few more people, lawyers are examining them. ------------- |
Posted By: SearchAndDestroy
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 17:40
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I wish there was a way to know if these people will do such things before we send them over. ------------- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." E.Abbey
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Posted By: hugoestr
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 17:52
Yes, but the leadership that encouraged this behavior still hasn't faced any accountability. ------------- |
Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 19:26
George Negus has become very bold since Howard passed the anti-terror laws. Thats the second major anti-american story he has broken. I'm surprised little jonnie howard hasn't tried to shut dateline down, or at least silence it. ------------- |
Posted By: SearchAndDestroy
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 21:40
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There is alot of media here that criticizes the government and the war, there is no way they could shut down any of the news outlets. Though recently I found out why Fox news supports Bush so much. The Director of the news proudcasts at Fox news is President Bush's cousin.
I don't really think the incident had gotten to far out. It was a isolated incident, and it was investigated. This is something the US would not want to do, and there was no reason for it. This was a incident done by animals who thought toying with helpless prisoners would give them a good time. There was nothing political about it, it was just a sad incident done by a bunch of idiots. ------------- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." E.Abbey
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Posted By: Mira
Date Posted: 22-Feb-2006 at 16:01
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The pictures are gruesome. America should be ashamed of itself. I don't think the world will ever forgive or forget this. ------------- |
Posted By: çok geç
Date Posted: 22-Feb-2006 at 16:29
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We have a saying in Arabic that can be translated as: Now that you have a piece of mind of no punishment, you mischieved. Who will punish the United States for this anyhow? But I have to admit at least that the American system is far way better than most of world systems. At least once these photos are shown, some prosecution is followed. In some incidence, Americans are the one who would take the stand to show the photos for the first time (ex. the famous video of the killing of an unarmed injured civlian in the Fallujah mosque) ------------- D.J. Kaufman Wisdom is the reward for a lifetime of listening ... when youd have preferred to talk. |
Posted By: SearchAndDestroy
Date Posted: 22-Feb-2006 at 16:43
------------- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." E.Abbey
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