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Topic: Total Quiz XI.3 - Thank you for playing
Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Subject: Total Quiz XI.3 - Thank you for playing
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 13:08

Total Quiz XI
(Part 3)

TOTAL QUIZ XI.3 HAS ENDED. THE NEXT TQ WILL BE IN APRIL

Introduction: TQ is a history trivia contest. Anyone is free to participate and the contest is open to all forum members and guests.

Instructions: Go to the questions page enter your name and submit answers to the questions. You are allowed an unlimited number of submissions and you may use any source, reference or search engine to help you with your answering. Points are awarded for correct answers. The participant with the most points win. The scoreboard will be updated at 4-hour intervals when possible. Only use the answer sheet to submit answers, DO NOT post answers on the forum.

Scores:

NickNameQ1Q2Q3Q4Q5Q6Q7Q8Q9Q10Q11Q12Q13Q14Q15Q16Q17Total
Dawn111111111111(1)2111 18
Decebal1111111111111(2)
(1)11 18
poirot1111111(1)11111011(1) 16
BoudiccasWrath11111111101110110.66 14.66
gcle200311110100.5000102
11
111.5
fastspawn11111111100110000.3311.33
Antipathy1111111100101001011
Maju11111110000100110.33 10.33
Justinian11111111001100000 10
TemplarScribe11111101101000001 10
TheMightyPimento11111111100000000.66 9.66
Kapıkulu11111101001000000 8
Cezar11111110000000000 7
Dave Dingleberry11111110000000000 7
Mixcoatl11110110000000010 7
Serge L11111101000000000 7
Ahmed The Fighter11111100000000000 6
Achilles11100010001000000 5
ulrich von hutten11111000000000000 5
rider111(.25)1000000000000 4.25
Fejedelem1110.250000000000000 3.25
Mila1110.250000000000000 3.25
Jim crow11000010000000000 3
Nagyfejedelem11100000000000000 3
Arpa10100000000000000 2
Kagan10000000000000000 1
Phallanx00000000100000000 1
Yiannis10000000000000000 1

Scores in parentheses signify bonus points for authored questions.

Thank you for playing!

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ROUND TWO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

14. Though considered a barbarian, the blood of emperors ran through his veins. A great warrior, his reign was part of the golden age of his country. He also founded a city named after himself which was for a while to become the capital of an even greater country than his own. Who is he? (Hint: Part of his name refers to a warrior fighting with no one by his side. His crown, still preserved today, is the subject of legends and has been used to support a controversial idea. The fact that he was a descendant of emperors must be taken literally.) (Submitted by Decebal)
  • Answer: Vladimir Monomakh (AD. 1053-1125), He was the son of a daughter of the Byzantine Emperor Constantine IX Monomachos, with Monomachos meaning "He who fights alone." Vladimir was the ruler of Rus and founder of the city of Vladimir, an important capital of Russia. His crown was said to have been given to him by the Emperor of Byzantium, a claim used to support Moscow as the Third Rome.

ROUND ONE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

1. In 1492, who set sail from Spain to the “new world”? (Submitted by Invictus)
  • Answer: Christopher Columbus
2. What important revolutionary leader fought against Spanish colonial control in South America and was known as “The Liberator”? (Submitted by Invictus)
  • Answer: Simon Bolivar
3. What 12th century Muslim leader is known for his leadership against the crusaders and whose achievements include the recapture of Jerusalem and victory at Hattin? (by Invictus)
  • Answer: Saladin
4. The Charge of the Light Brigade: In which war and battle did the charge happen? Who was the commander of the Light Brigade? What was the units name that supported the Light Brigade (French unit)? Who is the author of the original poem, 'Charge of the Light Brigade'? (Answer all four parts to receive full points) (by Rider)
  • Answer: The charge happened in the Crimean War, in the year 1854, at the Battle of Balaclava. The Commander was Earl or Lord of Cardigan. The supporting unit's name was Chasseur d'Afrique (Hunters of Africa). The author of the original poem is Alfred, Lord Tennyson.
5. The capital of Korea has been approximately located at the same area since the Joseon dynasty. When Yi Seonggye went out searching for a capital, he first went to the Daejeon area. While there, a geomancer informed him that he could not make his capital there, as it would be the capital of the next dynasty. Taking this in mind, he arrived in what is now present day Seoul and made that his capital. The current capital of South Korea has gone through numerous name changes. In Baekje times it was called Wiryeseong, in Joseon it was called Hanseong, and in modern day South Korea, the city is referred to as Seoul. What old Shilla word is the word Seoul derived from and what does it mean? (by Gubook Janggoon)
  • Answer: Derived from Seorabeol. (Seorabul, Surabul, ect.) Means: "Capital"
6. These two Japanese clans, often fierce rivals, spearheaded the Meiji Restoration (by Gubook Janggoon)
  • Answer: the Shimazu and the Chosu
    Moderator's note: Satsuma was also accepted, although Satsuma is the name of the region and the clan was named Shimazu
As in the previous quiz, the questions were arranged in approximate order of difficulty. Questions 1-3 were intended to be easier questions. The next three required more research, and question 7 and onward were written in a riddle-like style as more challenging questions.

7. As a teenager he went to study at the University of Oxford. However, it was a trip to another city that prompted him to compose one of the most important writings on imperial history – a work that took him about 15 years to finish. Many such as Churchill praised his work. In All Empires Forum, however, his work has seen more criticism than praise. Who was he? (by Imperator Invictus)
  • Answer: Edward Gibbon. He wrote the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, published in 1776, which has become one of the most important works in western historical writing.
8. I came to court one day with a deer, and told my emperor that it was a horse. My emperor, fearing my power, had no choice but to agree with me. Who am I and who was my emperor. (by Poirot)
  • Answer: Zhao Gao, the chief enunch of the Qin(Chin) Dynasty of China. The emperor was Qin Ershi, or Qin II, the second emperor of the Qin. His "calling a deer a horse" become idiomatic usage in Chinese referring to a deliberate untruth for ulterior motives.
9. I lived in a heavenly palace and had 500 wives though I forbade my subjects to have more than one. I made all property in my kingdom common so I could be called by some to be the first communist. My brother was a famous founder of christianity. Tens of Millions died in the war I started and eventually lost. The general that defeated me had a dish of food named after him that can be found on menus around the world today. Who was the general that defeated me?
  • Answer: Zuo Zong Tang, also known as General Tso, as in the dish "General Tso's Chicken." "I" refers to Hong Xiu Quan, who believed that Jesus was his brother whose territory from his conquest was known as the "Heavenly Kingdom". The war refers to the Taiping rebellion which was the second largest war in history in terms of casulaties.
10. Troublesome times in the family and country - A nomadic power had recently invaded nearby regions. Worse yet, after the death of their father, chaos took hold of the family. The one son who inherited the throne was killed by another son with the help of nomadic allies. However, after achieving the crown, he (the latter) turned against his allies and was captured and later killed in battle. Then, another brother of the two ascended the throne, but was blinded and deposed after only a few years. Eventually, the throne passed on to a son of one of the above. Name the “family” (dynasty) in which the events took place. (by Imperator Invictus)
  • Answer: The Sassanid Dynasty of Persia. The setting of the question is the late 5th century BC. The White Huns had invaded the region and had become a power east of the Sassanid Empire. In 484, the Emperor Peroz, Son of Yazdegerd II, was killed in battle against the White Huns, after which a period of political chaos ensued until the reign of Kosorau.
11. Father and Daughter. The two lived in a time of invasion, conquest, and uneasiness within the family. The father was described as a warrior of great courage in battle, who led his armies in some of the most dynamic times in history. The daughter wrote about the life and times of her father in a work distinguished for its time. (by Imperator Invictus)
  • Answer: Emperor Alexius Comnenos and his daugher Anna Comnena. Alexius was the emperor of Byzantium at around the time of the First Crusade, a troublesome time for the empire. He probably had the highest reputation of warrior abilities among the emperors: "First to Charge and last to flee." His daughter, Anna, wrote the Alexiad, a history of Alexius' reign. Anna is known as one of the first female historians.
    Moderator's note: I hope You've enjoyed the Byzantine family questions in the recent quizzes!
12. What ancient artifact, which bears the words of a child, was unearthed during a time of war between powers on a continent across the sea from where it was buried? Due to the outcome of the war, the artifact had to be surrendered to another power, although with great reluctance. Name this important artifact, whose name today has reached symbol status. (by Imperator Invictus)
  • Answer: The Rosetta Stone. The Rosetta stone bore the decree of the Pharoah Ptomely V, who was 8 years old at the time. It was discovered during the period of the Napoleonic wars by French scientists who accompanied Napoleon to Egypt. The Rosetta Stone was eventually surrendered to the British. The significance of this artifcat is that it contained both Hieroglyphics and Greek versions of the same text, allowing the decyphering of the ancient Egyptian writing.
13. I am associated with the most powerful men of my time. I am probably the most famous ruler of my very old kingdom and my death brought the end of an era. My successor blackened my name so thoroughly that even hundreds of years later I am still misrepresented in literature and film works. I reigned for 21 years and had 4 children. (by Dawn)
  • Answer: Cleopatra VII of the Ptolemy Dynasty in Egypt. She had one son with Julius Caesar and three children with Marc Antony and ruled from 51 B.C. to her death in 30 B.C. In literature and film works, her life has been regarded as something of a tragedy.
14. (Advanced to Round Two)

15. This king was given his name due to a swarm of flying insects said to have surrounded him at his birth. He built a city named after himself which was modeled on Jerusalem. The city still stands today as a place of pilgrimage and has amazing architecture, unlike any other in the world. What is the name of the king? (by Decebal)
  • Answer: Gebra Maskal Lalibela of the Zagwe dynasty of Ethiopia.  The saintly king was given this name due to a swarm of bees said to have surrounded him at his birth, which his mother took as a sign of his future reign as Emperor of Ethiopia. Lalibela is said to have seen Jerusalem and then attempted to build a new Jerusalem as his capital. As such, many features have Biblical names - even the town's river is known as the River Jordan. It remained the capital of Ethiopia from the late 12th century and into the 13th century.
16. This historical region takes it name from a river whose ancient name that resembles a type of animal. This region was one of the most highly contested in history and was part of many empires. According to work of a certain European poet, one of the rulers who ruled the region was a “Scythian.” What is the name of this region? (by Imperator Invictus)
  • Answer: Transoxiana. Transoxiana, a region in Central Asia east of the Caspian Sea, was called so because it was the land across ("trans") the River Oxus. One of the most important cities in Transoxiana was Samarkand, a rich trade city that was also capital of the empire of Tamerlane (Timur Lenk). The English playwright Christopher Marlowe wrote a play titled Tamburlaine, loosely based on the historical Tamerlaine. In the play, Tamburlaine is a scythian shpeherd.
    Moderator's notes: I decided to accept Mesopotamia as an alternate answer, as it was known as the land between two rivers, one of which was the Tigris. I think semantically, the relation in the case of Mesopotamia is valid for question. It also happens that Tamerlane's empire extended into Mesopotamia. However, I was largely dissapointed in this, since having Mesopotamia as an answer makes the question much easier.
17. This is a fierce clash between the blue and gray that lasted two days and decided the fate of two historical figures. This is a tale of two opposing figures. One was a “loser” on the winning side, and became a scapegoat for his superiors, blamed for incompetent command. The other was a “winner” on the losing side, and, despite being wounded, saved his side from being relentlessly pursued by the victorious enemy. Both figures went on to accomplish more things. The loser on the winning side became a famous writer, and the winner on the losing side became a leader of a famous organization. This is a multipart question:
  1. What was the name of the battle that involved these two figures
  2. 2. Who was the loser on the winning side? What was his most famous piece of writing?
  3. 3. Who was the winner on the losing side? What was the name of the famous organization that he led? (by Poirot)
  • Answer: 1. The Battle of Shiloh 2. Lew Wallace; Ben Hur 3. Nathan Bedford Forrest; Ku Klux Klan 1. The Battle of Shiloh, between the Union and the Confederacy in 1862 during the American Civil War, was one of the bloodiest battles in United States history. 2. The loser on the winning side was Lew Wallace, who was blamed by General U.S. Grant and the public for the heavily casualities suffered by the Union troops. Wallace was unable to position his troops at the ordered locale (Pittsburg Landing)until the fighting was almost over. As a result, he was demoted and transferred from his command. After the American Civil War, Wallace became a famous novelist, whose most popular work was Ben Hur, the best selling American novel i


Replies:
Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 13:25
Good Luck everyone! Thanks to question contributors who have made this TQ possible.




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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 14:22
The First scoreboard update has been posted. The next updates will be in 4 hour intervals, whenever possible.

I can't believe No. 16 was answered so quickly. Decebal, you must've known exactly what I was talking about.



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Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 14:39
I don't know if it was just me, but I got it right away when I read it. 

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What is history but a fable agreed upon?
Napoleon Bonaparte

Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.- Mohandas Gandhi


Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 16:06
Paul, that was a good one, number nine    Decebal, your second question has been beaten

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 16:47
Clarifications:
Q14: "blood of emperors ran through his veins" means that he was a descendent of a line of Emperors.

Poirot, your question has been beaten. (You'll find out by whom at the next score update).


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Posted By: Mila
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 17:54
I didn't know we could use search engines. I put "no idea" for half of them, but oh well - a few I knew, I hope.

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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 17:57

Originally posted by Imperator Invictus

Clarifications:
Q14: "blood of emperors ran through his veins" means that he was a descendent of a line of Emperors.

Poirot, your question has been beaten. (You'll find out by whom at the next score update).

Just for the record, I spent 1 hr making the mammoth question google free



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Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 18:08

Originally posted by Mila

I didn't know we could use search engines. I put "no idea" for half of them, but oh well - a few I knew, I hope.

You know, you can keep on trying to get right answers till you get it (but only the last answer between every results update is considered).



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What is history but a fable agreed upon?
Napoleon Bonaparte

Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.- Mohandas Gandhi


Posted By: Mila
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 18:12
Thanks, Decebal! Dawn told me as well. I will try again soon.

EDIT: I want to see how many I had - I expect 2, maybe 3.


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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 18:28
Great participation so far! Please remember that if you see something wrong with the scoring, let me know by PM.

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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 22:10
Dawn, good job with 17

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 00:11
Scores have been updated. There were errors in the scores calculation for Dawn and Poirot during the last update.

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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 00:22
How can you have a .5 mark on a question that has either 3 or 5 answers?

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 00:37
Thanks for pointing that out. The scores have been revised again.

Question 17 is now officially scored by 1/3'.


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Posted By: fastspawn
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 04:34
did my second round come through?

Posted By: fastspawn
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 04:43
also could I ask whether the ancient name resembles a type of animal, or the river resembles a type of animal?

Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 10:01

Originally posted by poirot

Decebal, your second question has been beaten

Congratulations, that was a difficult one. Let's see if you get the first one, which is just as hard, if not harder because you have to use your brain to get it, and not simply search for it.



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What is history but a fable agreed upon?
Napoleon Bonaparte

Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.- Mohandas Gandhi


Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 10:23
also could I ask whether the ancient name resembles a type of animal, or the river resembles a type of animal?


The river's name looks like a type of animal.

Also, question 10 isn't supposed to be that hard. Think about what regions were influenced by nomads. One answer I recieved, other than the correct answer, was very close.


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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 12:49
24 hours remaining for the first round of the Total Quiz. 

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 13:12
Clarification for Question 10:

"Troublesome times in the family and country - A nomadic power had recently invaded nearby regions"

...means that a foreign nomadic power had recently invaded nearby regions and caused trouble to the empire/kingdom of the ruling family.

The next update will probably be around 3 pm (in two hours).


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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 15:59
Scores have been updated again. Sorry for the delay. I was all over the place today....

On Question 14, again "Emperor" has to be taken literally. That is, the line of rulers were known as Emperors historically and not merely as kings.


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Posted By: Kapikulu
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 16:28
When I saw the first three questions, I said myself: " Wow, they made the total quiz much easier than before" but as I go through, well it has been ...Finally I have personally given error in my brain, especially after questions of Decebal, Dawn and especially Poirot, after that last question, I had gone offline, with a blue screen asking to abort,retry, ignore or fail

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We gave up your happiness
Your hope would be enough;
we couldn't find neither;
we made up sorrows for ourselves;
we couldn't be consoled;

A Strange Orhan Veli

Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 17:43
An alternate answer has been accepted for Question 16. This will boost many of your points.



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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 17:53
Now I realize how I got a point for 16

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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 18:00
Congratulations Decebal!

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 20:05
Yes, kudos to Decebal for his clean sweep. Same to Dawn, if Q14 will advance to the second round. 

BoudiccasWrath, sorry that I didn't see your answer earlier for the "heavenly palance" question.


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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 23:02
if I give you cinnamon buns I just made will you up date the scores now ?

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 23:28
I think I have to stick with the 4 hour intervals, unless you can convince me to accept another alternate answer.

Also, I am not sure if I can guarentee many updates tomorrow. I'll be working on an extremely tight schedule tomorrow morning, so only a few more guesses left! this I do apologize for, but hopefullly, the fact that we had 48 hours can give me some leeway.





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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 23:56
Dawn, your answer does not fit one of the criteria (named city after himself).

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Posted By: fastspawn
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 00:51
how come decebal has 15 points? he has 14 because he gave 2 questions

Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 00:57
pssst....... there are 17 questions (he has answered 15+ authored 2= 17)

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 01:09
Dawn, you can force a tie if you answer question 14 correctly either in the remaining round 1 or in round two

...unless someone else gets it in round one and you don't - but it looks like the question will advance to round 2. 

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Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 01:27
Buff, question 14 seems extremely difficult. Nobody has replied it so far. How many barbarians were descendants of emperors, named cities after themselves and those cities became capitals of states larger than their own. I really can't think of any answer. 


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NO GOD, NO MASTER!

Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 01:56
It's just an ugly question .. but the last one you can't find always is

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 01:59
Well, there was one guy, a Hungarian adventurer, who became emperor of an african nation. So I guess anything's possible. (needless to say, he was on the TQ about 3 years ago)




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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 02:52
Originally posted by Imperator Invictus


BoudiccasWrath, sorry that I didn't see your answer earlier for the "heavenly palance" question.


No prob.




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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 08:42
Final guesses for round 1. There will be no more score updates between now and the end of round 1.

Round 1 ends at 1 pm EST. However, round two will not start until I have computer access, which will be some time around 3-4 pm.


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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 15:36
Round two has begun!

Answers to round 1 questions will be posted shortly.

Current scores have been posted. Bonus points have been added, calculated by the following methods:



The Bonus system for round two is a bit complex. But essentially, as it is in our case, if the question is answered, Decebal will receive 2 points. If nobody is able to answer the question correctly, then there will be no bonus (in this case, the question would be deemed by the formula to be "too difficult" for the quiz.)



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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 16:13

Great question Decebal!

His surname refers to a warrior fighting with no one by his side.

Does this mean his surname means a warrior fighting with no one by his side, or that his surname alludes to a specific warror in history who fough with no one by his side?



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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 16:28
"Means" is correct.

BTW, did you actually get #10 at the last minute or did you hold back the correct answer until then?



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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 18:08
So what happens when the quiz ends round 2 in a tie?

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 18:15
That I'll go and write harder questions for the next quiz. 

I think a tie is a fine way to conclude the quiz.


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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 19:11

Originally posted by Imperator Invictus

"Means" is correct.

BTW, did you actually get #10 at the last minute or did you hold back the correct answer until then?

Only two cultures used blinding as a way of deposing their rulers.



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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 19:35
Answers to the questions of round one have been posted on the first page of this thread.

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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 19:42
'm sorry q.16 dissapointed you  if it makes you feel better it took along time to come up with the defence for that answer

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 20:24
No problem. I wrote almost all of my questions the night before the quiz, so I definately missed something there. Actually, you were the only one who got the "scythian" part of the question, so at least that's good.


So how did you like the questions this time?

After the last quiz, I wanted to make a more challenging quiz. However, what I primarily had in mind was to make the quiz consist of a greater number of challenging questions while not necessarily making the challenging questions more challenging. If you noticed, compared to the last quiz, this quiz has a not of questions that were difficult to google, while in the last quiz, only 3-4 were so. In this quiz, most of the questions between 7-17 were intended to be questions that could not be simply googled using keywords if you didn't know where to look.

However, the fact that some of you got all of them right really surprised me.

But if questions on the level of No. 14 are what you like, then I guess we can try more of stuff like that in the next quiz!


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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 21:00

No No No  no more questions like 14 ..... please 

First thoughts on the quiz - it is great to see so many people playing. I think that is in part due to the range in difficulty in the questions making it possible for those that are not obsesed with searching able to participate and stretch their abilities abit and stumble accross new intrests . and you find out the darnest things. ( I didn't know wasabi kills paristes in fish but I do now cause of TQ)  I like the idea of more questions that are difficult rather than more difficult questions.  I'd like to see the average quiz being 20 questions in lenght with a balance like you did this time. Too many of those criptic questions (like14) combinded with your way of updating scores would make for an impossible quizz and would surly loose my intrest (and I suspect many others) very quickly.



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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 21:02
In the process of doing the Total Quiz and stumbling upon not so correct answers at first, I have a couple of ideas for questions for the next total quiz.

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Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 23:24

16. This historical region takes it name from a river whose ancient name that resembles a type of animal. This region was one of the most highly contested in history and was part of many empires. According to work of a certain European poet, one of the rulers who ruled the region was a “Scythian.” What is the name of this region? (by Imperator Invictus)
  • Answer: Transoxiana. Transoxiana, a region in Central Asia east of the Caspian Sea, was called so because it was the land across ("trans") the River Oxus. One of the most important cities in Transoxiana was Samarkand, a rich trade city that was also capital of the empire of Tamerlane (Timur Lenk). The English playwright Christopher Marlowe wrote a play titled Tamburlaine, loosely based on the historical Tamerlaine. In the play, Tamburlaine is a scythian shpeherd.
    Moderator's notes: I decided to accept Mesopotamia as an alternate answer, as it was known as the land between two rivers, one of which was the Tigris. I think semantically, the relation in the case of Mesopotamia is valid for question. It also happens that Tamerlane's empire extended into Mesopotamia. However, I was largely dissapointed in this, since having Mesopotamia as an answer makes the question much easier.


Mesopotamia was my initial reply (a little unconvinced try), yet, as I didn't get the point initially and couldn't figure Transoxiana, I kept searching and submitted Bosnia.

Bosnia should be a better answer than Mesopotamia, I think, because it's speculated that the river Bosna, from which the country takes its name is derived from "bos" (bull in Latin), among other etymological speculations. Instead Mesopotamia does not derive it name from the Tigris directly.


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NO GOD, NO MASTER!

Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 23:37
Ahhh but.... another proper name for the area is The tigis euphrates valley. and the anceint laungage  of that district the name was Tigr which sounds like an animal andthen there is the poet christapher marlow and his work Tramelaine the great mentioning the scythian shepard who ended up ruling that area 

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 27-Jan-2006 at 23:40
Yeah, the Tamburlaine part narrows the region down to SW Asia.  But still, there was more than one region that qualified. I should've said that it also had to contain the Tamerlane's capital...

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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 00:26
combinded with your way of updating scores


Lol. Well I'm only doing the interval checking that so it's more fair to people who aren't in the same time zone as I am. If I checked continuously, that would favor people near the USA east coast.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 00:42
I don't want to sound like a whiney bitch, but I could have sworn that I had put Forrest down with the KKK for question 17. I think I put that in my first attempt at answering it. I could be wrong though, and might have put another name with the group that they led as the KKK, but I thought I put Forrest.

I know it's just .33 of a point but I am just a little curious if I was an idiot and put the wrong name down with the KKK.


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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 01:43
No, you're right. I'm getting bad at this. Sorry!

All scores will be re-checked thoroughly for the final score when round 2 is over. Hopefully, I'll catch all the errors if there are any more left.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 01:57
Originally posted by Imperator Invictus

No, you're right. I'm getting bad at this. Sorry!

All scores will be re-checked thoroughly for the final score when round 2 is over. Hopefully, I'll catch all the errors if there are any more left.


Whew! No, it's ok, you've got a lot to do and mistakes are bound to occur. I was more concerned that I screwed myself out of a portion of a point with sheer stupidity on my part. Now I won't have to verbally berate myself as my dog looks on wondering why the heck he is stuck with a crazy lady who yells at herself. 


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Posted By: fastspawn
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 02:06
i wrote euphrates for 16.

Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 02:22
Originally posted by Dawn

Ahhh but.... another proper name for the area is The tigis euphrates valley. and the anceint laungage  of that district the name was Tigr which sounds like an animal andthen there is the poet christapher marlow and his work Tramelaine the great mentioning the scythian shepard who ended up ruling that area 


I'm not complaining: I got the point anyhow. Just that I thought that Bosna fulfilled the conditions better than Mesopotamia - though regarding the Scythian ruler, I got satisfied with a mention of Alans ruling it for some time (Alans are supposed to be Scythians or Sarmatians).


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NO GOD, NO MASTER!

Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 04:15
I'm writing on behalf of TheMightyPimento (a friend I got to try the quiz who is not a member). He is sure that the answer he submitted for number 4 was correct. Could you please double check it? 

Thank you


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Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 04:49

Originally posted by Dawn

Ahhh but.... another proper name for the area is The tigis euphrates valley. and the anceint laungage  of that district the name was Tigr which sounds like an animal andthen there is the poet christapher marlow and his work Tramelaine the great mentioning the scythian shepard who ended up ruling that area 

Tigris doesnt only sounds like an animal but in greek language it means exactly 'tiger'.



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A mathematician is a person who thinks that if there are supposed to be three people in a room, but five come out, then two more must enter the room in order for it to be empty.

Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 07:25

On Question 16 I put 'Oxiana' in my last update and the answer is given as 'Transoxiana'. Depends which books you're reading or maps you're looking at doesn't it?

Amazon is selling 'The Road to Oxiana' at http://tinyurl.com/d47v4 - http://tinyurl.com/d47v4  and there are plenty of other references around.

It's the same region.

Incidentally, congratulations on the piece of deception on the Gibbon question. I went running around in circles trying to find a writer on the British empire. I guess I should be less anglocentric



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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 10:19
Fastpawn - I think Euphrates doesn't define a region since its a river. 

Boudicca's - Yes you're right again!. The response got lost in the pile...

Gcle - ok I'll give you that one, since it does fit the criteria. However, Oxiana and Transoxiana aren't the same region, as it seems (one's west of Oxus, the other is east)








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Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 10:35
Originally posted by Dawn

No No No  no more questions like 14 ..... please 

I`m sorry you didn`t like my question, Dawn I`ll try to make it easier next time. maybe...

Honestly, I`m surprised at how difficult people found that question. More comments after the end of the quiz. BTW, great job everyone.



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What is history but a fable agreed upon?
Napoleon Bonaparte

Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.- Mohandas Gandhi


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 10:40
Originally posted by Imperator Invictus

Fastpawn - I think Euphrates doesn't define a region since its a river. 

Boudicca's - Yes you're right again!. The response got lost in the pile...

Gcle - ok I'll give you that one, since it does fit the criteria. However, Oxiana and Transoxiana aren't the same region, as it seems (one's west of Oxus, the other is east)








Sorry for being the thorn in your side this quiz.   


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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 11:04

Originally posted by Imperator Invictus

Fastpawn - I think Euphrates doesn't define a region since its a river. 

Boudicca's - Yes you're right again!. The response got lost in the pile...

Gcle - ok I'll give you that one, since it does fit the criteria. However, Oxiana and Transoxiana aren't the same region, as it seems (one's west of Oxus, the other is east)

I won't quibble. I was under the impression it was rather like Gaul - Transoxiana and Cisoxiana and Oxiana covering both. I guess I was being too logical.








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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 16:21
Ok it's 4 PM. So that means that's the end of the Quiz. Stay tune for final scores to be posted later and in a few days, the awards. It looks like Dawn and Decebal won this Total Quiz.


14. Though considered a barbarian, the blood of emperors ran through his veins. A great warrior, his reign was part of the golden age of his country. He also founded a city named after himself which was for a while to become the capital of an even greater country than his own. Who is he? (Hint: Part of his name refers to a warrior fighting with no one by his side. His crown, still preserved today, is the subject of legends and has been used to support a controversial idea. The fact that he was a descendant of emperors must be taken literally.) (Submitted by Decebal)
  • Answer: Vladimir Monomakh (AD. 1053-1125), He was the son of a daughter of the Byzantine Emperor Constantine IX Monomachos, with Monomachos meaning "He who fights alone." Vladimir was the ruler of Rus and founder of the city of Vladimir, an important capital of Russia. His crown was said to have been given to him by the Emperor of Byzantium, a claim used to support Moscow as the Third Rome.


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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 16:50

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Shame on poirot.    Oh well, for some reason, I had the impression that the question has a non-European flavor, and I kept looking at descendents of African emperors - those of Mali and Ethiopia.

Although Goa does come close: The city of Goa was the capital of the Songhai Empire, but it is named after Goa, a Mansa(king of kings) of the Mali Empire.

Congratulatins Dawn and Decebal! 

Anyways, I vote for 14 as the best question on this total quiz.  



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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 17:10
Thanks for starting the vote. To the rest, please vote for your favoirate question!

#14 was definately a tough one!


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Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 17:29

I go with #16. I just spent more time to search for it than the rest. At least i am happy, i finally learned now the etymology of most region names in Eurasia

#14 was easy for me to find as soon as i realized that the warrior fighting with no one by his side should be a reference to monomachos.

Congrats to the winners, each one who participated and finally to Imperator for the great job.



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A mathematician is a person who thinks that if there are supposed to be three people in a room, but five come out, then two more must enter the room in order for it to be empty.

Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 17:36
The next quiz is going to be TQ XI4, correct?

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"The crisis of yesterday is the joke of tomorrow.�   ~ HG Wells
           

Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 17:40
Right, the next quiz will be XI.4

However, after that, If i'm still running the quiz, I think we'll drop the parts system. So the subsequent quizzes will be XII, XIII, XIV, etc...

[quote]#14 was easy for me to find as soon as i realized that the warrior fighting with no one by his side should be a reference to monomachos.[/quote]

I guess knowing Greek really pays off!


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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2006 at 17:45
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I get a chance to win the average score for a TQ part prize, since I missed the XI Part 1.

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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2006 at 05:00
What's the final decision about Oxiana vs Transoxiana? I seem to have lost the point again

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Posted By: Kapikulu
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2006 at 09:34

I wrote Alan John Percivale Taylor for question 7, who was also a British historian,who studied at Oxford and had been influenced by his visits to USSR, and who had written a book about the history of the Habsburg monarchy, and commended by Churchill...

He also was seemed like fit to the answer, but well, I haven't thought about Gibbon.



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We gave up your happiness
Your hope would be enough;
we couldn't find neither;
we made up sorrows for ourselves;
we couldn't be consoled;

A Strange Orhan Veli

Posted By: Serge L
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2006 at 16:30
Good quiz, it's always a pleasure. I like II idea to add some easy questions, so that nobody could be discouraged just for not being able to answer a single one. Once you find some anwers just out of the top of your head, you are encouraged to research to answer  the more dificult ones too.
In fact, when I was the TQ moderator (Eons ago) I seldom thought to do something like that, but actualy never did. Moreover, I agree with GLCE, I would never had thouht of the Roman empire about Q16 -- and I am not anglocentric at all!

  • II please pay attention, on the head post, refering to anwers to questions, you wrote "round one" twice. The first should be "round two"
  • As to the origin and meaning of total quiz "parts", I think I invented them, and that's why: during the first quizzes, Q&As submitted were very much, a lot more than an acceptable number for just one quiz. Since I could not enclose all of them in a single issue, and everyone was asking me to include his/her question on that quiz . . . I invented the multi-part quiz . Once the Q&A database had been cleared, I asked people to send more questions, after which a new issue of the quiz (with a new number) would have been held.

Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2006 at 16:44
Thanks for the comments, Serge_L - glad to see you back again for the Total Quiz. Can you believe it, the TQ has gone through more than four years, since its initiation back in HG's forum in 2001. I guess the TQ is one of the greatest things AE inherited from Heavengames.

For some reason, I made a lot more errors in terms of scoring on this one than in the previous two. Partly, I think the increase in participation has made things a bit more confusing.

gcle, that was a glitch. sorry.


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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2006 at 22:37

A few more thoughts:

best Question: although 14 was the most difficult/cryptic I really did like the gibbons one(10?) It was devious in it's simplicity and has my vote.

I think it would be a shame to lost the multi part nature of the quizz it's one of those things  you don't have to win every part to win the over all you just have to playin as many as possible. If you choose to loose the part thing though you could go for a yearly winner or something like that.

I have an idea about the little problem of correcting the massive number of answers (because I think that it will only grow in the future because of your new set up) and  a way to addresss the time zone fairness issue but I have to put a little more thought into it.



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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 02:42
Since things are settling down, it's time for awards:

Moderator Awards

New Player Award
BoudiccasWrath
...for outstanding performance on the Total Quiz as a first-time player.

Question Writer Award
Decebal
...for his contribution of Question No. 14, "Barbarian descendent of Emperors," which displayed an excellent combination of intrigue, and challenge.

Total Quiz XI Awards

Winners of Total Quiz XI Part 3
Dawn
Decebal
...for scoring the highest in the Quiz

Honorable Mentions
Poirot
BoudiccasWrath
...for outstanding scores in the Quiz


Congratulations to all winners and partipicants
Thank you all for playing! It was a pleasure to serve as moderator for this quiz. I hope you'll return in April for part 4 of Total Quiz XI.



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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 18:39

"Winners of Total Quiz XI Part 3"
                Dawn
                 Decebal

Guess this proves that there is not much to do in Canada in the winter

Congrates Decebal you played great and write good questions too?

Congrates to everyone else that played and tHanks to Imperator Invictus for running the quiz again.



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Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 22:38

Congratulations Dawn! I must admit that I was hoping to beat you this time. I came pretty close the other two times that I've played. Maybe it was just coincidence, but I felt like the quiz was easier this time (or I'm getting better at them?)... I really felt I had a shot.

Perhaps we should have a team contest and show everyone that Canada can be dominant at something else than hockey or curling

Anyway, congratulations to the other players as well, especially poirot with another strong showing and Boudiccas'wrath, who seems to have arrived as another contender. 



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What is history but a fable agreed upon?
Napoleon Bonaparte

Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.- Mohandas Gandhi


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2006 at 21:20
Thanks, and congrats to Dawn and Decebal.
 I look forward to both submitting questions to and participating in the next quiz. It was fun, albeit, frustrating at times. As for questions I liked, questions 7 and 12 stood out.

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