Communist style of leadership
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Topic: Communist style of leadership
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Communist style of leadership
Date Posted: 08-Sep-2004 at 07:18
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im doing an assignment at school and it requires me to find some quotes for the style of leadership of lenin, trotsky and stalin.The quotes have to be from contemporaries of these people and has to be about (a) the nature and style of their leadership (b)the similarities and differences between them (leadership) (c)how they were successful they were as leaders I have been looking on the net for hours, but to my avail few few quotes have been found.I would appreciate some assistance in leading me in the right direction to find these quotes.... Many thanks in advance! |
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Posted By: Kalevipoeg
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2004 at 14:38
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I have one form Uljanov: "Destroying the left-behind economy of the country-sides, hunger will objectively take us closer to our final goal, socialism, which is the next following step to capitalism." and following that: "Hunger will, in that manner, not only destroy the faith in the czar, but also into God." Those kinda shows Lenins hunger policies ideology. I translated them from Estonian but i think they serve their purpose. ------------- There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible than a man in the depths of an ether binge... |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2004 at 21:46
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well the SOviets definatley did intentionally cause plenty of famines, especially in the Ukraine ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: Kalevipoeg
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 13:27
Yea, ca 4 million Ukrainians starved to death and it is thought that Stalin had a slight case of "Ukrainofobia." I have a letter from Sholohhov to Stalin and an answer from Stalin, if you want, i can translate it into English for you Tribunus militum, if you would like? ------------- There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible than a man in the depths of an ether binge... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 14:25
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"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions a statistic." -Stalin
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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 19:56
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totally evil but a very true quote in dealing with peopels perceptions ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 07:05
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The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do. (GWB sure ain't read any books, but he read this quote) The Pope? How many divisions has he got? When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use. ------------- Light blue touch paper and stand well back http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
Posted By: Gallipoli
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 07:50
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Stalin is a murderer that is correct. However one must know that the Communist system was NOT evil. It wasnt implemented the way it should have been... ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 15:11
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That's very true. The Soviet Union wasn't evil, Stalin was. ------------- |
Posted By: Evildoer
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 15:14
| Soviet Union is evil. Look how they enslaved Eastern Europe under dictatorships, and this kind of thing continued on even decades Stalin died. In addition, they invaded Afghanistan in order to rainforce a government that peoples of the region detested. Note also that KGB still opperated right until the fall of Soviet Union. |
Posted By: Kubrat
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 22:01
And I can tell you that from a certain point of view people were far better off than they are today. People in Bulgaria get paid on average $300 a month. Could you live off that? Pension is next to nothing, the highest amount is $100 a month. A couple of months ago, they raised the pension by 5%, but they raised the price of electricity by 15%. Crime is abundant, especially organized crime. Sofia houses many casinos. Fields in the countryside lie unsown, while the country has to import grain to feed its citizens. Now tell me how capitalism is better for the common folk today. ------------- Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare |
Posted By: Kalevipoeg
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 00:51
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Yea, many things were better then. I can still hear stuff like:" But in the Russian time there was this good and that good, but look at what is going on now..." by many people everywhere here in Estonia. ------------- There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible than a man in the depths of an ether binge... |
Posted By: Kubrat
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 09:02
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Yeah, I hear that too, except they say, "Back in the days of
communism..." For the first time a couple of months ago, I saw
farmers riding in wagons in Bulgaria. That's never happened until
now. The question is, if communism in the eastern countries hadn't been organized by a party with a concrete leader, would it have fallen apart faster or slower? Would it have had the same benefits? Not that you can feel a lot of the benefits now. It's like everyone who has some power is thinking along the lines of, if it was used in the communist era, it is bad. So they are remaking every policy, rebuilding Bulgaria they say. And the privatization is horrible. Instead of the privatization offices saying what the value of a government owned company is, you have the organized crime telling them what to value it at so they can buy it on the cheap. And the organized crime includes many political figures. ------------- Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare |
Posted By: Evildoer
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 15:00
| The same thing is happening in Russia. There is no order, but only gangs of oligarchs, former Soviet officials and gangsters running around. |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 22:40
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Notice how countries that were never ruled by commies to begin with are usually so much better off, western europe vs europe per se. Nothing the state could create will ever top human ingenuity and individual achievement. ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: MengTzu
Date Posted: 29-Sep-2004 at 19:32
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Hey Tribunus Militum, I don't know if the semantics matter, but technically none of the leaders you spoke of are Communist. (Surprise.) In true Marxist terminology, they are Socialists. According to Marx, in a Communist society there's no leader. Peace, Michael 9-29-2004 |
Posted By: Kubrat
Date Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 21:50
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True MengTzu. That is what happened when Stalin took power too...
------------- Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare |
Posted By: Evildoer
Date Posted: 01-Oct-2004 at 01:43
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Well... that is Socialist according to Marxist terminology. Real socialists do not follow idiots like Marx but the ideologies of Paris Commune (which was not dominated nor lead by Marx, but merely supported by him). I think it is fair enough to call those people communists so that one can distinguish them from socialists. Otherwise it would be an insult to socialists who have nothing to do with them and their type of economic/political theorys. Plus, Communism should really be defined as a dicatorship with government imposing total/ almost complete controls on the economy, as almost all government who call themselves communists have this system. |
Posted By: maersk
Date Posted: 01-Oct-2004 at 04:27
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well no country ever started out communist, its just the way it was implemented kinda screwed everything up... ------------- "behold, vajik, khan of the magyars, scourge of the pannonian plain!" |