The Swords Thread.
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Topic: The Swords Thread.
Posted By: JiNanRen
Subject: The Swords Thread.
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2005 at 13:23
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Post the blades of different origins and cultures. Here's a reproduction of Qianlong's saber  |
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Posted By: JiNanRen
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2005 at 13:29
Sorry i forgot that we have a sword image thread in the military history section, feel free to delete or merge this thread
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Posted By: Belisarius
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2005 at 14:17
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Here are some Filipino 'swords'. This is called a 'barong' and is not to be confused with the traditional Filipino shirt of the same name.  According to legend, a 'kampilan' sword killed Ferdninand Magellan.  This is called a 'bolo'.  ------------- |
Posted By: Gavriel
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2005 at 14:51
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Nice blades,how do i go about posting a pic? I have tried my usual way using Image shack but it doesnt seem to work on AE boards? |
Posted By: baracuda
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2005 at 23:10
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"JiNanRen" that sword looks like as if it is a decendant of the Turko-Mongol saber, which is the ancestor to all chinese willow leaf and goosequill sabers (liuyedao and yanmaodao).
Here is another sword that is also a decendant of the turko-mongol saber; the magnificent gold-inlaid saber made for Ottoman Turkey's Sultan Suleyman "the Magnificent:" (who lived 1495-1566.) This saber exhibits a ridged cross-section and is currently in the collection of Topkapi Sarayi Museum,Istanbul,Turkey. 
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Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2005 at 08:35
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Two Ottoman swords(taken from turktarihi.net)
This is "Yatagan"
And this is Iran-i Simsir ------------- |
Posted By: JiNanRen
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2005 at 10:34
here's an assortment of chinese martial arts weapons |
Posted By: JiNanRen
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2005 at 10:37
Another one of Qianlong's saber |
Posted By: JiNanRen
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2005 at 10:45
Anther Qing dynasty saber |
Posted By: jiangweibaoye
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2005 at 17:52
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Tang Dynasty Sword
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Posted By: babyblue
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2005 at 01:42
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OMG Jiangweibaoye that is the most beautiful chinese sword i have ever seen!!! BTW is Thomas Chen still around? he'll love this thread.. |
Posted By: jiangweibaoye
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2005 at 11:06
BabyBlue, When I was researching Tang Dynasty style sword, I believe recalling a website which showed various Chinese swords from various dynasties. I believe a fellow by the name of Thomas Chen did the research. I don't know him, but the fellow did excellent work. Yes, it is a beautiful sword. Actually many think it is a Japanese sword, but they are mistaken. The Japanese imported Tang swords, which is known as Chukotu (Straight Sword). You can see how the Katana was inspired by the Tang Da Dao. I have also attached a Han Sword & yes, I agree. They should use traditional swords in their military parade instead of western swords. Looks too Soviet style.
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Posted By: Hak-Khan
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2005 at 19:16
 Sword of geday(Oktay) Han ------------- |
Posted By: the_ancient_lunatic
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2005 at 01:55
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Here is a bad cut in action done with a very forgiving sword. The sword is a hand and a half by Albion swords called The Duke. A most wonderful sword.....The sword was undamaged but my ego took a little beating afterwards......
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Posted By: Kouros
Date Posted: 12-Sep-2005 at 21:02
 sword of achemenes founder of achemenaid dynasty in persia,  basicx scimitar of persia,cousin to the kopis,khopesh and broadsword and predecessor of the cavalry saber and corps swrds.  restored akines, sword of persian emperor darius, 6th century bc  sword of nader shah, later used my qajar and phlavi kings for coronation. ------------- Iran:?  !] Iran
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Posted By: RevanShan
Date Posted: 22-Sep-2005 at 20:16
  Sword of King Gou Jian of Yue, 5th century bc |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 22-Sep-2005 at 23:54
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Me loves the cavalry sabers ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Nov-2005 at 00:37
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really liked the Tang Dynasty Swords. Well balanced forms and a
sword that is also a work of art. The following are Mycenaean or
Hellenic Bronze age swords that also had amazing form at circa
2000-1200 BCE 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Nov-2005 at 00:43
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Posted By: Raider
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2005 at 07:31
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The so called Sabre of Charlemagne or Sword of Attila. One of the coronation swords of the Holy Roman Emperors. In truth this is a Hungarian princely sabre from the IX. century. Presumably it was gift of king Salamon and his mother for the German assistance in the throne struggles. It is the only remaining IX. century sabre in good condition. These pictures are too big to copy here: http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid4/austria/vienna/museums/schatzkammer/sabre_of_charlemagne_10thc/dscn1104.JPG - http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid4/austria/vienna/museums/schatz kammer/sabre_of_charlemagne_10thc/dscn1104.JPG http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid4/austria/vienna/museums/schatzkammer/sabre_of_charlemagne_10thc/dscn1105.JPG - http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid4/austria/vienna/museums/schatz kammer/sabre_of_charlemagne_10thc/dscn1105.JPG
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Posted By: Raider
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2005 at 08:00
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The sword of St. Stephen, one of the dragon killing swords of the IX. century. It was made by a known swordsmith of the Rhineland, Ulfbrecht and exported to Hungary. It was carried to Bohemia in the second half of the XIII. century. Anna the duchess of Macs (or Macho) escaped from his brother Stephen V. to Ottokar II. of Bohemia with the half of the royal treasury and this sword. (She tried to had him killed.) Now it is amongst the treasures of St. Vitus cathedral in Prague.
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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 03-Dec-2005 at 15:40
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Sword and scabbard, Sasanian; A.D. 7th century Iran Blade: iron; scabbard and hilt: gold over wood, garnets, glass-paste; guard: gilt-bronze; L. 39 1/2 in. (100.3 cm) Rogers Fund, 1965 (65.28a, b) http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_of_Art/viewOne.asp?dep=3&viewmode=0&item=65.28a,%20b - http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_of_Art/viewOne.asp?dep=3& viewmode=0&item=65.28a,%20b  ------------- |
Posted By: AFG-PaShTuN
Date Posted: 10-Dec-2005 at 00:52
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Afghan Chara [Knife]
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Posted By: AFG-PaShTuN
Date Posted: 10-Dec-2005 at 00:54
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Afghan Sword
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Posted By: Emperor Barbarossa
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2005 at 15:32
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The claymore. Used by Scots in the Middle Ages and the Enlightenment Age. First it was a huge sword then if became smaller. The Medieval Hand-and-a-Half Claymore  The Enlightenment Age basket-hilted claymore  They even made a cavalry saber claymore  The rapier. Common light sword used everywhere in Europe during the Enlightenment Age.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2005 at 15:17
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Arabian sowrd
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Posted By: big toothbrush
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2005 at 20:15
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These two are interesting, yet katana is my favorite.
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Posted By: Fizzil
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 11:48
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Arabic swords were less curved than turkic or persian swords:
Another example(Mohammeds and later sucessors replica swords in Istanbul, excellent example of arabic swords during the 7th-8th centuries):
Not really good looking but does shed some light on earlier arabic swords. http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/arabdaggersswords.jpg - |
Posted By: Fizzil
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 12:03
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Also check this website, it has alot of swords from all over the world: http://www.oriental-arms.com/ - http://www.oriental-arms.com/ Some good looking arabic swords: http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1485 - http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1485 http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1376 - http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1376 http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1214 - http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1214 |
Posted By: Jay.
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 21:09
My fav, the Machete:
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Posted By: big toothbrush
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 22:31
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I start to like Chinese Tang sword now, impressive.
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Posted By: XueKaiYuan
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 22:04
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One thing puzzles me. Why put nine rings into the back edge of a saber? ------------- LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLLLLLLOOOLLL!!! |
Posted By: Emperor Barbarossa
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2006 at 14:04
British Officer's Swords 1775 British Infantry Officer's Sword  1780 British Infantry Officer's Sword  1785 British Infantry Officer's Sword  1796 British Infantry Officer's Sword  1800 British Light Infantry Officer's Sword All images from http://www.swordforum.com - http://www.swordforum.com -------------
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Posted By: Eondt
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2006 at 04:57
A close-up of the hilt and fuller of a medieval hand and a half reproduction by Lutel (the next one on my 'to-get' list).
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Posted By: Sudaka
Date Posted: 04-Sep-2006 at 23:31
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San Matin, argentina national hero sword
 ------------- Not yet mein friend, not yet |
Posted By: HistoryGuy
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2006 at 09:08
Here are some Late Anglo-saxon swords.. (REAL!)
   And of course an early Anglo-Saxon sword.
 ------------- هیچ مردی تا به حال به شما درباره خدا گفته. |
Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2006 at 09:33
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Just noticed this post, those Filipino swords are superb...
Here's one of mine, arguably the most ferocious cutter of them all,
 ------------- Light blue touch paper and stand well back http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
Posted By: J.M.Finegold
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2006 at 16:13
What about the Tizona, El Cid's sword? ------------- |
Posted By: Menumorut
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2006 at 17:02
"The Dacian agricultural tool-turned weapon is from the late 1st century ad/early 2nd century AD. There is a strong theory that this weapon caused romans to work reinforcing cross-bars into their helmet designs." From http://members.aol.com/gijchar/new05.htm - http://members.aol.com/gijchar/new05.htm "Dacian swords (akinakai)" (from the first iron age) at http://www.geocities.com/cogaionon/large/l86.htm - http://www.geocities.com/cogaionon/large/l86.htm -------------  |
Posted By: Jagiello
Date Posted: 14-Feb-2007 at 12:49
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The saber was a lot better than the sword,because it was easyer to use it and in 17th century the steel made it even stronger than the sword.We all know it came from east,but do you know which is the best one?The saber developed trough the centuries until the best saber was made.It was the polish saber used by the hussars in the 17th and 18th century.It was a product of centuries of development.Made of the greatest steel at that time,very light,with a special grip called "kciuk" and very easy in use.
 the "kciuk" |
Posted By: CPWN
Date Posted: 23-Feb-2007 at 06:52
My favorite is Song Dynasty sword.
 This one was found in a river.
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Posted By: white knight
Date Posted: 07-May-2007 at 10:29
my favorite are:
 the warbrand.
 the pata the Egyptian Khopish and
 the zweihander. |
Posted By: olvios
Date Posted: 07-May-2007 at 10:59
greek Kopis xiphidion Xiphos from up to down reconstructed for my reenactment group ------------- http://www.hoplites.net/ |
Posted By: Tar Szernd
Date Posted: 08-May-2007 at 09:12
| White Knight: The original name of the egyptian (old assyrian, old-hettitian etc) sword is harpe, isn't it? |
Posted By: HangPC2
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2007 at 23:42
Pedang DiRaja (Malaysian Royal Regalia Sword)    Sources: http://www.malaysianmonarchy.org.my/portal_bi/rk4/rk4b_imej.php?id=rk4_11 - http://www.malaysianmonarchy.org.my/portal_bi/rk4/rk4b_imej.php?id=rk4_11 |
Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 16-Jun-2007 at 00:51
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These links will be interesting to anyone interested in ancient weapons.
http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/archsci/depart/resgrp/amrg/amrginfo.htm - http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/archsci/depart/resgrp/amrg/amrginfo.htm
http://www.youngmuseum.com/the_richard_nable_collection.htm - http://www.youngmuseum.com/the_richard_nable_collection.htm
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UG5zRrh_M5q1RjM9gJ0Q16XqzZ5LasifPWUpzGvruBCioplLVw81x4Pe_5g_-VI0LM3vbusTX2OA-D2LzEDbxTrL47U3wQ/IrishBronzeAgeWeapons.pdf
------------- "Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces". Unknown. |
Posted By: HangPC2
Date Posted: 16-Jun-2007 at 01:10
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Ayutthaya (Siam) Sword Adopted The Japanese Katana Daab Yippon   |
Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 16-Jun-2007 at 01:38
Elemite Dirk, Bronze. ca 1200-800bce
 Luristan Dagger-ca 1200-800 bce ------------- "Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces". Unknown. |
Posted By: BorisPetrov
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2010 at 16:57
Hello, Could you please tell me more about these swords. Where are they from and how are they dated - which period are they from? Thanks in advance! Boris |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 21:26
It could have been a Chinese jian. These straight swords were carried in pairs ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2011 at 21:19
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For the benefit of CWPN: the Song Dynasty ruled China from around 940-1279 AD. They were the first to equip their army with gunpowder: rockets, landmines and grenades almost a century before European alchemists discovered the formula for gunpowder ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2011 at 19:10
Here is a medieval falchion, based on swords used by the Muslims. This was the ancestor of the cutlass which originated in the 16th century when falchions were fitted with simplified basket-hilts ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 25-Sep-2011 at 19:12
Sabre used by Russian Cossacks, derived from the Turkish scimitar ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 03-Oct-2011 at 21:29
To those familiar with Sharpe, this cavalry sword needs no introduction: a real butcher's blade derived from the earlier mortuary sword in use during the Civil War ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 07-Oct-2011 at 20:44
15th century hand-and-a-half sword that inspired the design of Narsil from Tolkein's Lord of the Rings ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: SuryaVajra
Date Posted: 13-Jun-2013 at 15:36
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The Urumi . Probably the most difficult of all blades to master, but most efficient with multiple opponents. If you are not careful, it can cut off your toes as you maneuver it. It has happened to one of my seniors. I am learning Kalari already. After approximately 5 years, I will be allowed to train with a dagger, a Katara, a sword and finally the mighty Urumi . Boy.....finally, to become a Kshatriya. For now, I have to adjust with bamboo sticks.   |
Posted By: SuryaVajra
Date Posted: 13-Jun-2013 at 15:42
 As though one weren't enough...  |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2013 at 21:08
That's badass. One day I'm going to buy a high quality Paul Chen katana and cut old phone directories in half ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |