Ethnic History of Central Asia: are there any pechenegs left?

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are there any pechenegs left?

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Topic: are there any pechenegs left?

Posted By: maersk
Subject: are there any pechenegs left?
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 10:09

id heard that the szekely of romania/hungary might be descendents of petchenegs, and that a few groups in the ukraine might be as well. any truth to this?

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Posted By: Aygucu Tonyukuk
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 10:28

Ggauz Turks in Bulgaristan, Greece, Moldovia, Romania, Turkey, Lithuania, Uktrain and Russia are descendants of Petchenegs.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 10:47

Yeah, and Turkish popstar Tarkan also has Pecheneg origins.

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Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 11:41

Yeah, and Turkish popstar Tarkan also has Pecheneg origins.

hmm? I hadn't know this.

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Posted By: Kenaney
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 12:16

Ive heard that Tarkan's family whas a strong family in earliyer times, Tevetlioglu's.

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Posted By: Aygucu Tonyukuk
Date Posted: 09-Jul-2005 at 18:52

Originally posted by Kenaney

Ive heard that Tarkan's family whas a strong family in earliyer times, Tevetlioglu's.

Dr. Fethi Tevetoglu, the famous military doctor and Turkish nationalist, panturkist (3 May�s'ta yarg�lananlardan) is uncle of Tarkan.

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Posted By: Raider
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2005 at 04:54

There is a lot of theory anout the origin of the sz�kely people, but they are not related to the pechenegs. The pechenegs were a distinct group in the Kingdom.

Pecheneg territories in the Hungarian Kingdom:

http://www.mek.oszk.hu/01900/01954/html/index797.html - http://www.mek.oszk.hu/01900/01954/html/index797.html

Posted By: Heraclius
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2005 at 08:58

The Pechenegs were heavily defeated by a united Byzantine-cuman army in 1061 and again by the Cumans 3 years later, then in 1091 Alexius I practically annihilated the Pechenegs. So id think the numbers of decendents of the Pechenegs would be minimal at best.

After that they were largely absorbed by Bulgars and Magyars from what I know.

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Posted By: giani_82
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2005 at 09:58

Yeah, pechenegs alongside many nomadic tribes kept close diplomatical relations with the ex-nomadic tribes of the Bulgarians and Magyar. That eased their absorbtion into the countries of these nations.

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Posted By: jpadjan
Date Posted: 01-Dec-2013 at 13:00

Yes, there are. Read my paper "Origin of the Surname Padjan" at Scribd.

Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 02-Dec-2013 at 06:57

Originally posted by jpadjan

Yes, there are. Read my paper "Origin of the Surname Padjan" at Scribd.

the suffix of jan can come with so many name you cant take padjan as pechenegs

pech in turkmen means Heater . pechenegs is very likely to be a turkmen word yet i cant translate it

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Posted By: jpadjan
Date Posted: 02-Dec-2013 at 07:52

Thank you for your input. Based on what you have said, it is clear that you haven't read the whole paper and thought long enough about everything in it. If you had, you would have perhaps discovered your mistake in the conclusion you have arrived at and would not have posted your comment. But thank you anyway for checking out my paper.