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Category: Regional History or Period History
Forum Name: Ancient Mesopotamia, Near East and Greater Iran
Forum Discription: Babylon, Egypt, Persia and other civilizations of the Near East from ancient times to 600s AD
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Topic: Ancient Civilizations
Posted By: Winterhaze13
Subject: Ancient Civilizations
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 15:24

What is the greatest ancient civilization?

Which one is the most important to the development of history?

Which one was the best in terms of culture, military power and political dominance?

Which one would you have liked to live in and why? What event would you experience? What would you do and see?

What is the defining event of ancient history?

Who are the greatest people of the ancient period and why?



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Indeed, history is nothing more than a tableau of crimes and misfortunes.

-- Voltaire
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Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 15:35


Hi Winterhaze,
very good poll, but every member will vote for their onw region.
Every ancient civilization was important on their own era and region.
Just an observation, on the mesoamerican area, the Mayan culture was not contemporary to the aztecs, at least not the splendorous mayan civilization that built Copan, Chichen Itza, etc.
The aztecs and the Incas were contemporary civilizations but too far away to interact or influx on the other.
The ancient mesoamerican civilizations were the Olmecs and Teotihuacans that later on influx on the Mayans, Toltecs,Zapotecs, Mixtecs and Aztecs.

Every culture developed their own writting system, calendar and social politic.
Greek's apportation to the actual socio-political is undenieable. However, the other cultures developed their own systems that allowed their convivence.

Regards


Posted By: Winterhaze13
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 17:16

If you love Ancient history please check out this great forum:

http://ancient-empires.net/forum/index.php?act=idx - http://ancient-empires.net/forum/index.php?act=idx



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Indeed, history is nothing more than a tableau of crimes and misfortunes.

-- Voltaire
French author, humanist, rationalist, & satirist (1694 - 1778)


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 07:01

I agree with Hueyi Tlahtoani on this one. All votes in this poll will be rather "emotional". Not necessarily for each voter's region, maybe by passion or interest aswell.

I, for one, cast my vote for Ancient Egypt. I admire all the other ancient civs, but egyptian history really touches my heart, you know...



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Posted By: Anujkhamar
Date Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 12:15
<enter you're country's name here>


Posted By: Rome
Date Posted: 29-Jun-2005 at 21:51

Rome by far is the greatest empire that ever existed because it was a military power and there is no way that the ancient mesoamerians or Egypt could compeat with Romes military power even though Rome had problems of its own. The legions of Rome may have lost battles of its own but only because of bad luck and trechery the first century A.D.

 



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Posted By: strategos
Date Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 01:00
Well, what civilization would you most want to live in? I don't think I'd like the sacrifises of the Aztecs and Mayans, or the all mighty Persian emperor..

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Posted By: AssyrianMan7
Date Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 01:16
I believe Mesopotamian Civilazation has had the greatest effect on the world today. They are the "cradle of civilazation". They are the onces who build the first cities, streets, water canals, postal system, farm land and so on.


Posted By: Ardashir
Date Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 04:23

he he!

Iranians have voted to Persian empire!

Greeks to Greece!

Italians to Roman empire!

And Assyrians to Mesopotamian!



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Posted By: reign
Date Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 15:59

     i vote others. The khmer empire by far is the greatest empire in southeast asia and possibly in the world in my opinion. The khmer are master stone builders, and it shows for angkor wat and the many other temples built. It's a fine example of what human can accomplish, and take into consideration that this was nearly eight centuries ago. There were no heavy machinery, although ancient archictecture didn't use it either. Moreover, Angkor Wat is geometricly constructed, as well as Bayon within Angkor Thom ( surrounding wall ), the capital when Jayavarman Vll reign. At that time, Angkors golden year, the empire streched as far as Lao, Vietnam, and Thailand. Phimai, Phnom Rung, Prasat Muang Tam can be found in Thailand and Wat phu can be found in Lao.

                              Satellite image of Angkor

(center left ) the smaller square with the black outline is angkor wat. The black outline is it's surrounding moat. Angkor Wat is in the center. The square above Angkor Wat is Angkor Thom which is a wall surrounding of the capital. The brown dot in the center is Bayon.

 

 



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 19:13
 The greatest ancient civilization has to be Greece. It has been immensely influential on the language, politics, educational systems, philosophy, art and architecture of the modern world. Greek culture was a powerful influence in the Roman Empire, which carried a version of it to many parts of Europe.  Western civilization is founded on Greek culture. I really don't think you can compare them to anyone else.


Posted By: Anujkhamar
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2005 at 03:17
ok, now everybody who replied above state where there originally from......see any similarities


Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 04-Jul-2005 at 10:02
Mesopotamia the  first civilization and with graet effect

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Posted By: ramin
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 14:22
Voted for Egyptian.


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Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 15-Jul-2005 at 08:46
Phoenicians! They invented alphabet and were sailing to Equatorial Africa when the rest didn't know anything.

Imagine writing in hyeroglyphs?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-Jul-2005 at 09:58
What about the HITTITES? They formed the first peace treaty of humanity, Kadesh with Egyptians. They expanded their civilization from Black Sea to Syria, from Troy to eastern Anatolia. Hail the Hittites!

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Posted By: Togodumnus
Date Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 02:47
Rome was the military power of the ancient world,and Greece the great center of knowledge(a lot of which they acquired from the Egyptians and the civilizations of the Fertile Crescent.)Which is the foundation of Western civilization with contributions from other great nations and their heritages.A generalization of course but accurate I feel.

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Posted By: TheOrcRemix
Date Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 02:52
voted rome

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Posted By: Harry Potter
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2005 at 10:46

Originally posted by TheOrcRemix

voted rome

me too



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Posted By: SJI Lasallian
Date Posted: 25-Jul-2005 at 09:48
The Chinese were a very advanced civilisation in ancient times so i would have to vote for them...

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Posted By: Itihaas
Date Posted: 27-Jul-2005 at 23:08
India we have given the world a vast amount of knowledge used even today.


Posted By: avesta
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2005 at 03:50

Persians created the first system of satrapies (provinces) and postal systems.  They created a real administration in an empire, an actual efficient form of government, it was light years ahead of anything the world had yet seen, especially since they were the first "real" empire.  The amazing thing is that all of this was accomplished in such a large empire, spanning across most of the known world while housing inhabitants of so many different ethnicities and cultures.  The world had never witnessed such a large empire before this one.  Messages would be delivered in a matter of 1 to 2 days using the royal highways.  I even read somewhere that the King would impose a taxing system based on percentage of income of land.  The conquered lands were deemed to belong to the King himself, and therefore the inhabitants of that land would have to pay a fixed percentage of the income from the land to the King.  This would make it beneficial for the King to help improve the land, which in turn benefits himself, as well as the inhabitant.

Don't forget the fact that power was vested in the royal bloodline for appoximately 300 years.  Many later empires were unable to maintain rule for so many generations.  The achaemenid empire fascinates me...I could keep going but I wont.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2005 at 16:10

Ancient Greek Gave rome much of its ideas, so my vote would be Greco-Roman.

Or British.



Posted By: Jhangora
Date Posted: 04-Oct-2005 at 10:44
India for being the oldest civilization n also the oldest continuing civilization in the world.

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Posted By: Praetorian
Date Posted: 07-Oct-2005 at 23:46

Rome because:

It took us 1800 years to rediscover or remake most what the west has lost.

Some thinks like medical sciences, tools, most architecture, Coliseum, SELF OPENING DOORS, some machinery and act took 2000 years to rediscover or remake….

 

“The Romans had access to goods from around the world, a mail system that was faster than anything before the 20th Century, very well maintained roads, unrivaled security, central heating, police and fire departments, large amounts of public entertainment, and more.”

 



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Oct-2005 at 10:30
I voted for the Greeks. Every high culture could come up with writing systems, administration , architecture or huge military, but none of those left as big as an impression on the modern world than the ideas developed in ancient greece, in terms of philosophy, democracy etc.
My favourite are still the ancient mesoamericans, though. Those weren't the greatest civilizations, but the most fascinating, imho.


Posted By: Praetorian
Date Posted: 08-Oct-2005 at 13:08

"I voted for the Greeks. Every high culture could come up with writing systems, administration , architecture or huge military, but none of those left as big as an impression on the modern world than the ideas developed in ancient greece, in terms of philosophy, democracy etc."

True, my will be the Roman and Greeks.



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“Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris”
“--If Caesar were alive, you'd be chained to an oar.”

"game over!! man game over!!"


Posted By: MoriheiUeshiba
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2005 at 01:46

Egyptians all the way

it did survive for thousands of years they had to have done somthing right



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Nov-2005 at 23:11

Originally posted by Ahmed The Fighter

Mesopotamia the  first civilization and with graet effect

OF COURSE



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Posted By: MoriheiUeshiba
Date Posted: 18-Nov-2005 at 10:26
Originally posted by Rome

Rome by far is the greatest empire that ever existed because it was a military power and there is no way that the ancient mesoamerians or Egypt could compeat with Romes military power even though Rome had problems of its own. The legions of Rome may have lost battles of its own but only because of bad luck and trechery the first century A.D.

 


having the geatest militart power doesnt make a great civilization
the ones with less military usually are the ones with the greater civilization and are usually conquered by lesser civilizations
i voted Egypt


Posted By: Justinian
Date Posted: 18-Nov-2005 at 16:32
I voted for the greeks because they developed many of the sciences we use today i.e. philosophy, history as well as governmental systems and architecture.  Besides the fact that they had great influence on other civilizations; romans, middle east through successor states.  Their alphabet influenced romans through etruscans, hence their effect on the english language also.

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Posted By: Infidel
Date Posted: 18-Nov-2005 at 19:58
I was undecided between Rome and Athens. I love them both. Both were highly influencial in the way they have shaped our civilization. But I had to go for Greece. The intelectual heritage is just overwhelming.

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