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Agriculture,Languages and Genes In China and SEA

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Forum Name: East Asia
Forum Discription: The Far East: China, Korea, Japan and other nearby civilizations
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Topic: Agriculture,Languages and Genes In China and SEA
Posted By: wingerman
Subject: Agriculture,Languages and Genes In China and SEA
Date Posted: 30-Mar-2014 at 01:14

Many scholars believe the Hemudu Culture was the ultimate source of the proto-Austronesian cultures.
http://bishopmuseum.org/media/2007/pr07036.html

Hemudu is Austronesian


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When and from which direction was the Sinitic expansion?
This expansion would surely have been from north to south
Sinitic=north origin
http://www.rogerblench.info/Genetics/Geneva%20paper%202004.pdf



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Posted By: theSinitic
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2014 at 04:04
Archaeology/Linguistics

http://www.academia.edu/3077307/The_expansion_of_Setaria_farmers_in_East_Asia - http://www.academia.edu/3077307/The_expansion_of_Setaria_farmers_in_East_Asia


The expansion of Setaria farmers in East Asia

Laurent Sagart discusses how Tibeto-Burman's and Austronesian's language families were genetic and came from the same neolithic patterns of Cishan, Peiligang, and Jiahu complex which overlapped with Yangshao.  They farmed millet as their sacral crop.  Dapenkeng on Taiwan, noted for its similarities to Yangshao also farmed millet, also treated as a sacral crop, not rice.  Neither Hemudu nor Liangzhu had millet.



There are still remaining, though quite few, remant matriarchs still upholding the culture of the ancient neolithic millet farmers originating in the upper Yellow River.  Most of them don't practice the culture any longer as the global village continues to grow and matriarchy is no longer taught to the next generation.







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http://hwyst.hangzhou.com.cn/wmyzh/content/2013-10/09/content_4920423.htm

Liangzhu was typified by hallmarks which glorified 5000 years of China.


Posted By: theSinitic
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2014 at 04:28

This map actually indicates that the Pre-Sinitic situation is unknown which means the undotted area in the middle was basically always considered Sinitic.  Nobody knows how far the other language families merged into it.  It does not indicate Pre-Tibeto-Burman/Austronesian language situation unknown.  The area eventually went on to become the state of Chu Wu and Yue.


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http://hwyst.hangzhou.com.cn/wmyzh/content/2013-10/09/content_4920423.htm

Liangzhu was typified by hallmarks which glorified 5000 years of China.



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