oghuz folks language
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Topic: oghuz folks language
Posted By: yomud
Subject: oghuz folks language
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2014 at 16:18
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well im a turkmen ollios is turkish and karadaghli is azerbijani turk why dont we use this to study our language ? if you 2 agree we could start it ------------- yomud are free people |
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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2014 at 17:00
let's begin  ------------- Ellerin Kabe'si var, Benim Kabem İnsandır |
Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2014 at 03:17
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well karadaghli didn't respond i hop he join us later ok from where :D do we going to start from similarity or differences ofc similarity will be very huge 
------------- yomud are free people |
Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2014 at 15:54
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you are the boss, this is your topic
------------- Ellerin Kabe'si var, Benim Kabem İnsandır |
Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2014 at 06:41
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well feel free there is no boss here :D ok ? lets start with differences the similarty will be huge very huge ok we have 5 from of differences 1 accent 2 some words (u have some words from english and franch) 3 suffixs(just one i guess) 4 Unique (these are something i cant explain it only we have it !!) 5 the words which exist in both language but have 2 different meaning 1- well for one i must say all of are in 3 big group turkish as western azerbijani as middle turkmen as eastern we cant pronounce some arabic voice like ayin (ع) cuz we dont have it ! and we change it to nearest voice we could pronounce such as a/o/u/gh or totally just remove it !!! look arabs dont have P in their language so they change all the P to F or to B but for turkmens there is no rule for how we change the words so we change the words in different ways ! you better get to use to it  in our accent all the S will pronounce as Th(ث) see these examples ( th=ث expl thunder) i hop you get it ! turkish turkmen su thu sen then sari thari ati sur ati thur fars parth dont even think that we are sneaks ! Sthhhhh 2 - well this is big problem when you are speaking we all understand you unless you use some non turkish words such as manik which driven from manic in english so we turkmen just simply loss self confidence and we are not sure which turkic words you still using if we know all the non turkic words we could speak with you with no problem ! other type of this problem is the some words which you mistakenly using them such as bread turkish turkmen ekmek (ikmek) choreg you see ek(ik) came from ekim(ikim) as we both know we use this word when (as farmer) we are going to sow some thing  so when you call bread as ekmek it's strange for us  3- all the gremmer and suffix are some except this one you dont have ya suffix you replace it see these exaple turkish turkmen gidiyor gid'ya geliyor gel'ya bariyor bar'ya kaliyor ghal'ya the rest are all same i must note it the ya im speaking maybe it pronounced as Ja . until the last week i didn't know J also pronounce some think like y always think j only pronounce some think like a G for example tajik azerbijan for you ofc i will be written as tacik and azerbican 4- well this is something which we have it and you understand it but yet you dont have it !!see these example turkish turkmen olur Bolor olmaz bolmor olmade bolmade ben men konishmak keplemek nasil nejire(for you necire) it's difficult to write it im not sure i have write it correctly i wish i could put my voice here ne= what neme=what right now there is nothing else but if some thing come in my mind i will put it here in 4 5- i know 2 of them the first one is kizkin which means angry for you but for me means hot ! the other one su dushmeg which see these example turkish turkmen sijak ekmek kizgin choreg (lol first time when i came to turkey i tell baker to give me angry breads ) sua dushti sua dushti oghlan sua dushti sua dushti means drowning to you look i know i have a lot of Wrong spelling i wish i could put my voice here so you could get what i mean dont take it so hard we both speaking in turkic after all the rest of our language are same i think ------------- yomud are free people |
Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2014 at 15:23
Well, we can be in same language group as Oghuz languages  but Turkish and Azeri languages are more close then Turkish and Turkmen  In addition, there are different accent in Turkey. Look at Syria map which shows Arabic accent in the country http://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=WRIftTOkmEbsRM&tbnid=o3F9QFI0gcUMwM:&ved=0CAgQjRw4ag&url=http%3A%2F%2Fworldshiaforum.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F07%2F28%2Fethno-religious-division-of-syria-in-west-syria-east-syria-and-kurdistan-is-the-only-solution%2F&ei=1frrUo7_B6e7ygOo0YCICg&psig=AFQjCNETdfeM5ArUs6a5Jg0OsZIIK-DyIQ&ust=1391283285188997"> so Turkey is also same. It is hard to understand Turkish people who speaks with strong accents even for me.
It is also same for us, for example; English Turkish Azeri Turkmen Newspaper Gazete Qazet Gazet but (btw Gazete comes from Italian word "gazzetta") Journalist Gazeteci Journalist Zurnalist also in Turkish, we have choreges also Armenians, Greeks... but just Azeirs and Turkmens use this word for bread.  http://www.ajapsozluk.com/dictionary/turkmen-english/%C5%BEurnalist -
Come to my house for practising we have also two Turkmen nieghbours in the apartmen so you can't get bored
I can not say that I understood, but even the formal word is ben but we have got many folk songs which use men instead of ben. Also word mother is Anne in Turkish but you can use word ana, but it will show that you are coming from a small city or urban area.
I am wondering that how would be, if I were in Turkmenistan ------------- Ellerin Kabe'si var, Benim Kabem İnsandır |
Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 22-Feb-2014 at 17:36
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dude i find a azeri guy we can talk to him too
------------- yomud are free people |