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Topic: USA Vs. UK
Posted By: The Canadian Guy
Subject: USA Vs. UK
Date Posted: 26-Apr-2005 at 10:01
I think this would be tought, because the US and the UK are best friends. Once you pic one, please explain your answer.

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Posted By: Le Renard
Date Posted: 26-Apr-2005 at 10:42
I think that the US would win but it would be really hard, as you said we are best friends.  We have a bigger population and a stronger army.  I don't know... It would be hard

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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 26-Apr-2005 at 11:46

Remember at school there was one guy who had no friends. Then one day another guy who was really sociable took pity upon him and let him hang out a bit. To the guy with no friends suddenly his new friend was his best mate. But it was by no means true the other way around.

It's the same with the US and UK. The UK has lots of friends not just one. The EU are it's best friends, Non EU European countries and Commonwealth countries close friends and America the kids with no friends Britain felt sorry for just on the periphery.

If the US went to war with France or Canada it wouldn't be America the UK supported.



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Posted By: aimfire
Date Posted: 07-May-2005 at 02:19

America would win no doubt.  But as a forum friend said:  Make the UK a state?  You'd like have four states left!

 



Posted By: Kentuckian
Date Posted: 16-May-2005 at 21:46
take out our best ally....hmm...no.....why ask this silly question?

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Posted By: TheOrcRemix
Date Posted: 17-May-2005 at 02:11
lol, USA is the only superpower now, and the UK almost went backrupt in the 60's if it wasn't for margrat thasher

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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 17-May-2005 at 11:26

Originally posted by TheOrcRemix

lol, USA is the only superpower now, and the UK almost went backrupt in the 60's if it wasn't for margrat thasher

I think our hopes of winning just went up 10 points.



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Posted By: The Canadian Guy
Date Posted: 17-May-2005 at 12:34
Originally posted by Kentuckian

take out our best ally....hmm...no.....why ask this silly question?
LOL. It is like any other of the silly questions that are like this.LOL

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Posted By: Cassivellaunus
Date Posted: 18-May-2005 at 21:10
We'd surrender early as long as you told us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

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Posted By: The Canadian Guy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 09:56
LOL!!!

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 08:24
wouldn't canada and australia be on the UK's side then if so this is gonna be a good fight.


Posted By: The Canadian Guy
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 11:30
lol!!! Maybe, Canada would have a tough time picking side. I think the people would ally with the UK, but the government would be with the U.S. It very tough.

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Posted By: Kentuckian
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 20:28
Canada would be in a dangerous position if they declared war on the USA

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"America will win through absolute victory" - President Franklin Roosevelt

"This was our finest hour." - Winston Churchill


Posted By: Exarchus
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2005 at 06:07
I have little doubt the USA would win easily.


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Posted By: mark1100
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2005 at 07:49
what will the usa land with?
their landing ships maybe can carry 20000 men against ? 600000 british?
and it would take aeges to get them reinforcements
or they wanna set over from france?



Posted By: aimfire
Date Posted: 10-Jun-2005 at 05:10
US has the biological, chemical, and nuclear advantage.  We would win, even if all of Britains's allies went against us.  Yhat being said the US would be in a post apokliptic state.


Posted By: mark1100
Date Posted: 10-Jun-2005 at 08:13
Originally posted by aimfire

US has the biological, chemical, and nuclear advantage.  We would win, even if all of Britains's allies went against us.  Yhat being said the US would be in a post apokliptic state.


i doubt that, offcourse USA is strong but it cant battle huge nations
having the strongestmilitary these days doesnt mean u can beat everyone


Posted By: The Canadian Guy
Date Posted: 10-Jun-2005 at 09:40
lol if the US would send missles against England, the UN would be soooo angry, they would declare war against the US. Pluse, China has the largest military they would be a threat to the States. Mr. Bush isn't popular with alot of nations. So the world would most likely win the war.

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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 16-Jun-2005 at 10:28

Everyone forgets that the UK has a nuclear counterstrike capability with the ability to liquidate all of North America.

And soldier for soldier, the British regular and special forces are indisputed as the best in the world.



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Posted By: Yekta
Date Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 14:53

Originally posted by General Pompeius Magnus

I think this would be tought, because the US and the UK are best friends. Once you pic one, please explain your answer.

USA [1] !!!Vs.!!! UK [2]

Why fight?!

They are the perfect match, truely a lovely pare, economicaly, spirtualy, moraly and culturaly. Why be a super power when together they can be super lovers?

UKs hustle and USAs mustle makes the perfect cupple. Poetic indeed.

Let me think, that's very tough.....hmm....... Okay, let's imagin that USA wants to be a Europain Onion member, and decides to invade UK(mainly because they speak the same language and their love for soccer). So, USA uses turkeys to imply that UK is a turkeys land and the word "Britania[3]" actually means Bir+Tane(One Piece/One Item), that's enough to shake the old turkey. Considering turkeys way of thinking, with a dash of National Geographics oil and finding some words that sounds turkeyish most turkeys would back this theory up, why not? Geeks history is full of it and we all love it, right?

Yet, UK (Being so wise) decides to bring USAma+n Bin Laden into this picture. But, they don't know where this part Jebrish guy is! so they send their best guy to I-ran asking mullas for spirtual guidence(hoping what USA has been saying about Axes of Evil [4] is true), promissing to use the word "Ayyatollah" as a title for their nr.one man. UK finds out that they have never heared of "the guy"(right!) but, they make it a islamic fanatisism thing anyway and instead, they send Mr. "00-Bean" to BLOW UP his nose in USA.

While the Fenchs and Gaymans are shouting: What about us?! Where is our shares?! Hey, that's not fair! USA claims that the ones who did it were some islamist turkeys who have been born in Pakistanned and might live in UK and sends some forces to UK to clear this matter up, CIVILIZED and HUAMNLY(as any heir to Geeks/Robman Civilization should do). Later, they charge "Cassivellaunus" as JFKs assassiner and even pay the Olive guy to make a movie about it (that should make "BirTane" surrender easyly).

Now this brings up two different senarioes, either the majority of worlds countires say YES and buy this wild, ugly and missfit figure (which I belive they don't because they love UK too much) and support USA by sendeing forces as allies and accupy "BirTane" or, NOT.

If YES; They both lose and you should consider the rest of the world as winners.

If NOT; They probebly stop fighting and call it a lovers fight and both win. As for the rest of the world, nothing changes, they will keep on faking history while others make it.

[1] http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/framingarabs.html - USA/United States of Arabs

[2] http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/2400.asp - UK/United Korea

[3] http://www.manorhouses.com/hotels/britania.html - Britânia

[4] http://www.axesofevil.com/ - Axes of Evil

I hope i didn't step on any toes.



Posted By: Laelius
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 00:19

Remember at school there was one guy who had no friends. Then one day another guy who was really sociable took pity upon him and let him hang out a bit. To the guy with no friends suddenly his new friend was his best mate. But it was by no means true the other way around.

It's the same with the US and UK. The UK has lots of friends not just one. The EU are it's best friends, Non EU European countries and Commonwealth countries close friends and America the kids with no friends Britain felt sorry for just on the periphery.

 

Cute but I believe the UK has merely been reduced from its former glory to suckling on the teet of the American hegamon



Posted By: Heraclius
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 13:35

 Lol funny question overall but lets look at this closer, the USA the worlds richest most powerful country is having an absolute nightmare keeping control of Iraq a country with no active military, a resistance with comparably poor equipment, little real training and mostly of limited education not to mention not a massive population of only 26 million.

 Britain is rich, has one of the best trained most advanced armies in the world, some of the best equipment money can buy, has a largely well educated society, not to mention a population of 60 million oh and a few of those nasty nuclear weapons

 Not to mention the fact if America declared war on Britain, the rest of Europe would more than likely rally to Britain, since they arent fans of America anyway I dont see much doubt in that, I certainly dont think America wants to run the risk of conflict with Russia which has a large nuclear arsenal. Suddenly the USA's position doesnt seem so dominant  of course we could just end it immediately and nuke each other that way we'd wipe out all the major countries in the world and we'd be handing power over to Iceland!!!!

 [/QUOTE]Cute but I believe the UK has merely been reduced from its former glory to suckling on the teet of the American hegamon[/QUOTE]

 Tony Blair over George Dubya Bush anyday , I'd bet if war broke out he'd struggle to find Britain on a map anyway  Probably end up nuking  India by accident or something

 



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Posted By: Thegeneral
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 14:04

Wow, if you aren't one of the most conceited Brits I have ever seen.

First of all, the only problem with Iraq are the suicide bombers.  There is absolutly no real good way to stop them, no matter what equipment you have.  Which btw, America has the best and most advanced.  Not too mention that Britain is the size of Rhode Island

Not only do I doubt that countries would come to Britains aid, but some may even help America.  European countries may not like America, but they aren't stupid (most of them anyways).  They would most likely stay out of the fight completly.  And America would most likely get allies from Israel and nations in the Middle East and Asia.

And if a war came to the use of nuclear weapons, the UK would be nothing but a smoldering, radioactive wasteland!  No doubt about it.....



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Posted By: Heraclius
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 15:28
Originally posted by Thegeneral

Wow, if you aren't one of the most conceited Brits I have ever seen.

First of all, the only problem with Iraq are the suicide bombers.  There is absolutly no real good way to stop them, no matter what equipment you have.  Which btw, America has the best and most advanced.  Not too mention that Britain is the size of Rhode Island

Not only do I doubt that countries would come to Britains aid, but some may even help America.  European countries may not like America, but they aren't stupid (most of them anyways).  They would most likely stay out of the fight completly.  And America would most likely get allies from Israel and nations in the Middle East and Asia.

And if a war came to the use of nuclear weapons, the UK would be nothing but a smoldering, radioactive wasteland!  No doubt about it.....

 Way to suck all the fun out of it by attempting to insult me "conceited"

 Why would others help America if it was the aggressor? What would then be able to stop America invading say France, do you think everybody is that stupid that they wouldnt see Britain as merely a stepping stone to total domination? As if the european powers would just allow America to invade Britain and assume thats where they woudl stop.

  Youd get allies in the middle huh? the middle east that generally hates your guts? yeah thats a sound strategy i bet Iran comes running to support you . Just because some countries give America lip service doesnt mean they are going to rally to the cause everytime America steps its foot in it.

 You do realise other nations have nuclear weapons dont you? you fire at one country another fires at you we destroy each other, the end.

 If you dont realise that launching nuclear weapons in this day and age will ultimately lead to the annihilation of all our civilisations then you are a fool.



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Posted By: Thegeneral
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 16:10

You seem to assume to much!  Why do you automatically think we will attack first?  What makes you think we would fire nukes first?  It is rather absurd to think we would do either of those first.

And we may bot get any allies, but don't expect any to come to your aid.  And it's not like we couldn't defeat a few more countries.  It is much easier to win a conventional war than this war on terror we are currently fighting.



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Posted By: Heraclius
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 16:21

Originally posted by Thegeneral

And we may bot get any allies, but don't expect any to come to your aid.  And it's not like we couldn't defeat a few more countries.  It is much easier to win a conventional war than this war on terror we are currently fighting.

 Oh yes because America has infinite military resources, you cant even control Iraq! yet your just assuming Britain and Europe would fall in no time, do you even know how war works?

 Your country decided on a dazzling stupid plan to invade Iraq yet have absolutely zero idea what to do with the peace. Now your saying Itd be much easier to fight countries that can regardless of what you may think cause as much damage to america as america can to them.

 Im assuming America would be the aggressor because there is no motive for Britain declaring war on America and then invading America, Britain wouldnt be powerful enough to invade a country like America. America is powerful enough to invade Britain but that doesnt mean it would win.

 If a modern country like ours attacked each other today you just know itd resort to nuclear war and nobody would win, so the whole idea of britain and america at war is folly at best.



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Posted By: Anujkhamar
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 17:23
Invade a former ally? Now where have he seen the US do that before?


Posted By: Thegeneral
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 17:43

First of all, no nukes would be used.  People aren't that stupid.  Secondly, you said Britain has no reason to attack America, why do you think we have a reason to attack you?

And I don't believe America has ever attacked a former ally.



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Posted By: Heraclius
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 17:54
Originally posted by Thegeneral

First of all, no nukes would be used.  People aren't that stupid.  Secondly, you said Britain has no reason to attack America, why do you think we have a reason to attack you?

And I don't believe America has ever attacked a former ally.

 Britain has no motive because its a war it would be highly unlikely to win if it was the aggressor, besides why would Britain want to invade America?

 The whole idea of this is that both countries are at war, logically one must assume the aggressor is the stronger, what logic is there in a weaker country attacking and invading one which it cant possibly hope to conquer?



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Posted By: Thegeneral
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2005 at 18:39
There is no logic in this whole thing.  Thus the reason it is in the historical amusment section.  Why would America want to attack Britain even though it is more powerful?

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