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Cayonu Tepesi

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Topic: Cayonu Tepesi
Posted By: red clay
Subject: Cayonu Tepesi
Date Posted: 06-Mar-2012 at 09:53

The Cayonu settlement which is not far from the city of Diyarbakir has been unearthed by the expedition teams under the leadership of Cambel, Braidwood, Mehmet Ozdogan, Wulf Schirmen and it is dated back to 7250-6750 BC. In the middle of the settlement is a center and around it are monumental, rectangular structures and houses. The foundation of the structures is stone and above is sun-dried brick. The inhabitants of Cayonu are the first farmers of Anatolia. They raised sheep and goat, and domesticated dog. The woman figurines among the finds discovered are the earliest traces of the Mother Goddess cult.

They also have discovered the earliest known hammered copper objects, as well as cloth.  This is in the same general region as Gobekli.
 


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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 06-Mar-2012 at 14:16
Is there water nearby Red?Has to be cause of temple!
http://ancientneareast.tripod.com/Cayonu_Tepesi.html - http://ancientneareast.tripod.com/Cayonu_Tepesi.html
It looks it was,under earth  water spring(mineral?)
 


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 06-Mar-2012 at 19:09
How far was it from other ancient towns like Gobekli Tepe, Ur, Jericho, and Zoar, and is there evidence of trade?

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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 07-Mar-2012 at 00:45
Originally posted by Nick1986

How far was it from other ancient towns like Gobekli Tepe, Ur, Jericho, and Zoar, and is there evidence of trade?


Answer:

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Çayönü = Çay (small river, stream)+ ön (front)+ ü (just proposition) so,
"the meaning is a place near/in front of the stream"

Evolution of house in Cayonu




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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 07-Mar-2012 at 02:05
Beads form Cayonu Tepesi
http://www.geocities.jp/e_kamasai/zakki/acces/cayonu-beads_b.jpg




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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 07-Mar-2012 at 02:30
This is an interesting article, but one has to ignore it's Marxist POV - something in which I'm skilled since 3rd grade...  http://www.urkommunismus.de/catalhueyuek_en.html - http://www.urkommunismus.de/catalhueyuek_en.html
"...In Çayönü in Eastern Anatolia (fig. 1) the various phases of the neolithic revolution can clearly be traced throughout the succession of building levels. Although none of the basic innovations, such as housebuilding, agriculture and animal husbandry, originated in Çayönü itself, the temporal order in which the new techniques arrived in Çayönü correspond exactly to the order in which they originally had developed albeit at another site (Özdoğan 1997:12, 1999b: 226-227). The lowest layers (8800 - 8500 B.C.) testify to a permanently settled way of life on the basis of hunting and gathering (Özdoğan 1999a: 42-44); in the layer above (around 8000 B.C.) the first (imported) seeds are found (Özdoğan 1994: 40/1); the next higher layer documents the arrival of the first herd of sheep around 7300 B.C. (Cambel and Braidwood 1983: 164). With the practice of animal husbandry, the three basic innovations of the first phase of the neolithic revolution of the productive forces are complete ( http://www.urkommunismus.de/catalhueyuek_en.html#_ftn2 - Footnote 2).

This technical progress, however, takes place in a destructive, patriarchal, and hierarchical society of enormous cruelty. Apart from the houses for living and storage, in each of the above-mentioned building levels of Çayönü there was a "special building", rectangular in shape, measuring 8x12 sqm, without windows, dug into a slope which bordered the settlement towards the east (Schirmer 1990: 378). In front of this temple (Özdoğan 2002: 254), there was a rectangular space of 1500 sqm, flanked by monoliths up to 2 m high (Cambel and Braidwood 1983: 162) - all in all a complex of intimidating monumentality.

To the north, this space was terminated by three large, manorial houses that had identical fronts, alignment and distance from each other. These houses stood on an elevated platform on massive foundations made from big hewn blocks and had carefully constructed stone walls, a verandah and stone stairs. In these three houses, the wealth of the society was concentrated: large blocks of crystals, stone sculptures, shells from the Mediterranean Sea and from the Red Sea (!) (Özdoğan 1994: 44) as well as imported weapons of high quality.

In the Western part of the settlement, the houses were only half as large, of distinctly poorer quality, without any additional features and were not built according to a standardized plan. Only the few tools needed for daily living were found there.

If the unequal distribution of wealth and power already becomes evident just by looking at the architecture and treasures discovered, the existence of private ownership of means of production can be proven directly by an extraordinary finding: All resources necessary for producing tools that had to be transported from far-away locations via a long distance trade system - flint and obsidian - were found exclusively in the houses situated near the temple. There they were stored in blocks of up to 5 kilograms. (Bear in mind that the finished tools weighed no more than 4 grams!) What was not found, however, was midden from chipping stones - no trace of any productive activity. The situation in the slums of the west was exactly the opposite. Here no resources were found but in the streets there was workshop debris from the chipping of flint and obsidian. I.e., there was a small group of people who possessed without working and a large group of people who worked without possessing - in other words, there were classes. These facts are presented in a condensed manner by Mehmet and Aslı Özdoğan (1989: 72-74) as well as by Davis (1998), the latter almost in a form of class analysis...."



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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 07-Mar-2012 at 09:38
Religion automatically implies a "Priestly Class".  The 3 houses they refer to would likely be where the priests lived.
 
Looking at this region as a whole you find unusual antiquity.  It gives a new perspective to the claims of 10,000 for Visoko Hill in Bosnia. 


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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 07-Mar-2012 at 19:17
Originally posted by Don Quixote

Beads form Cayonu Tepesi
http://www.geocities.jp/e_kamasai/zakki/acces/cayonu-beads_b.jpg



Are those made of glass?


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Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains!


Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 08-Mar-2012 at 03:53
No, stone and shell - Cayonu is supposed to have been a main bead-producing center   http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/turkeycayonu.htm - http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/turkeycayonu.htm

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Posted By: mothergoddess
Date Posted: 12-May-2015 at 12:43
Red Clay, the earliest displays of the mother goddess was in the Paleolithic period around 25,000 ya in the Pyrenees mts of Europe- see mother goddess figurines. This would also be the earliest representation of fired clay objects.

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Posted By: Aeoli
Date Posted: 13-May-2015 at 05:29
Originally posted by mothergoddess

Red Clay, the earliest displays of the mother goddess was in the Paleolithic period around 25,000 ya in the Pyrenees mts of Europe- see mother goddess figurines. This would also be the earliest representation of fired clay objects.

If you are talking about venus figures such as Venus of Lespugue, there are much more older figures 


Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 13-May-2015 at 06:27
Shows us Aeoli!Smile


Posted By: Aeoli
Date Posted: 13-May-2015 at 12:26
Originally posted by medenaywe

Shows us Aeoli!Smile

I couldn't insert the video but link is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVoYWXQLoWw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVoYWXQLoWw

Venus of Hohle Fels 40,000 BCE Germany




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