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Topic: Jet Fighters
Posted By: Nick1986
Subject: Jet Fighters
Date Posted: 12-Sep-2011 at 19:30

This topic is dedicated to the planes of the Cold War and later, from their origins as Nazi superweapons to their ubiquity in the air forces of all modern nations. Above is a picture of the first fighter-jet: the German Messerschmitt 262 introduced in 1944

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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 13-Sep-2011 at 03:22
air fighters from Anatolia

the first black military pilot: Ahmet Ali Çelikten http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Ali_%C3%87elikten - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Ali_Çelikten

the first woman millitary pilot: Sabiha Gökçen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabiha_G%C3%B6k%C3%A7en - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabiha_Gökçen


however Ahmet Ali wasn't a jet pilot and I am not sure about Sabiha Gökçen but she died in 2001 so maybe she used a jet.


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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 13-Sep-2011 at 05:28
Fine Airmen.. both of them.
Sabiha was honored by the USAF as outstanding pilot and contributor to aviation.
 
I could choose many but I'll stick with a legend of legends...Chuck Yaeger.
 
http://web.archive.org/web/20060502161501/http://www.edwards.af.mil/history/docs_html/people/yeager_biography.html - http://web.archive.org/web/20060502161501/http://www.edwards.af.mil/history/docs_html/people/yeager_biography.html
 
As for Jets my favorite three remain:
 
*F14 Tomcat  http://www.voodoo-world.cz/tomcat/ - http://www.voodoo-world.cz/tomcat/
 
*RN Dh-Sea Vixen http://www.seavixen.org/ - http://www.seavixen.org/
 
*F104 Starfighter http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=2311 - http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=2311


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 13-Sep-2011 at 19:43

I've always liked the Thunderbolt. A lot of them have teeth painted on the nose similar to WW2 fighters

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 14-Sep-2011 at 19:19
Where's Greywolf? During his long career he must have seen firsthand a lot of interesting planes from the WWII era Mustangs to the Sabres, Banshees, Phantoms, Intruders, Skyhawks, Corsairs, and Fighting Falcons in use during the Cold War

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2011 at 19:36

Lockheed F-94 flown by the Duke in Jet Pilot. Entering service in 1950, the Starfire was used during the Korean War, gaining fame as the first jet aircraft to destroy another jet. Twelve were lost, including one that crashed attempting to intercept a North Korean biplane

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2011 at 19:55

The F-16 Fighting Falcon currently serving in Afghanistan. In addition to its surface-to-air missiles it has twin Vulcan cannons in vents below the cockpit

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 17-Sep-2011 at 19:12

The MiG-15 was the most widely-produced Russian jet-fighter, with over 12000 built. It was powered by a reverse-engineered Rolls Royce engine acquired from the British Labour government in 1947. It proved itself in the Korean War: the Yalu River on the Chinese border was known as "Mig Alley" and was the site of many dogfights

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 17-Sep-2011 at 20:31
here ya go Nick.........
 
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/kowar/50-unof/un-2b.htm - http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/kowar/50-unof/un-2b.htm


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2011 at 19:18

Thanks Centrix. Lichtenstein's famous painting WHAAM! depicts one of these dogfights. A Starfire (or possibly a Mustang) destroys what is obviously a MiG with its air-to-air missiles

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2011 at 19:49

The McDonnell Phantom 2 entered service with the USN in 1960. It set 15 World Speed Records and saw action as a bomber in Vietnam. These 50-year-old planes are still used by the Turkish air force: a testament to American engineering and design

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2011 at 19:00

MiG Foxbat, at one time the fastest Russian jet-fighter. During Mr Bush's War, several were discovered buried in the desert to prevent their destruction

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 21-Sep-2011 at 19:58

Another Korean War-era jet, the F2H Banshee. It had folding wings, enabling it to be transported in an aircraft carrier, four nose-mounted guns and an ejector seat

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 22-Sep-2011 at 19:06
[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uluk_zt4FOo[/TUBE]

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2011 at 20:32

The A-4 Skyhawk entered service after the Korean War and was still flying in 2003. It saw action in the Yom Kippur War, Vietnam and the Falklands.

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 25-Sep-2011 at 19:32

A formation of Intruders in service with the USMC. Nicknamed the "Iron Tadpole," the Intruder was identifiable by its wide nose and slim tail

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 26-Sep-2011 at 22:07
I'm suprised ya have not mentioned the F15. Perhaps the most 'over glamorized fighter' contribution to the CW in USAF history.Wink
 
 
http://www.1000pictures.com/aircraft/F-15/index.htm - http://www.1000pictures.com/aircraft/F-15/index.htm


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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 27-Sep-2011 at 19:14
Maybe you can tell us more Centrix? When did the F-15 enter service and which wars was it used in?

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 29-Sep-2011 at 21:37

F-22 Raptor, one of America's newest jet fighters. It utilises stealth-technology and entered service in 2005. Over 170 have been built, with more on the way

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 02-Oct-2011 at 22:00

The F-15 Eagle used by the US, Japan, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Israeli pilots downed many Fishbeds and Foxbats in the 1982 war with Syria

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 02-Oct-2011 at 22:18
Originally posted by Nick1986

Maybe you can tell us more Centrix? When did the F-15 enter service and which wars was it used in?
 
The following is standard fortay.
 
CC... http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=101 - http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=101
 
Background
 
The first F-15A flight was made in July 1972, and the first flight of the two-seat F-15B (formerly TF-15A) trainer was made in July 1973. The first Eagle (F-15B) was delivered in November 1974. In January 1976, the first Eagle destined for a combat squadron was delivered.

The single-seat F-15C and two-seat F-15D models entered the Air Force inventory beginning in 1979. These new models have Production Eagle Package (PEP 2000) improvements, including 2,000 pounds (900 kilograms) of additional internal fuel, provision for carrying exterior conformal fuel tanks and increased maximum takeoff weight of up to 68,000 pounds (30,600 kilograms).

The F-15 Multistage Improvement Program was initiated in February 1983, with the first production MSIP F-15C produced in 1985. Improvements included an upgraded central computer; a Programmable Armament Control Set, allowing for advanced versions of the AIM-7, AIM-9, and AIM-120A missiles; and an expanded Tactical Electronic Warfare System that provides improvements to the ALR-56C radar warning receiver and ALQ-135 countermeasure set. The final 43 included a Hughes APG-70 radar.

F-15C, D and E models were deployed to the Persian Gulf in 1991 in support of Operation Desert Storm where they proved their superior combat capability. F-15C fighters accounted for 34 of the 37 Air Force air-to-air victories. F-15E's were operated mainly at night, hunting SCUD missile launchers and artillery sites using the LANTIRN system.

They have since been deployed for air expeditionary force deployments and operations Southern Watch (no-fly zone in Southern Iraq), Provide Comfort in Turkey, Allied Force in Bosnia, Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan and Iraqi Freedom in Iraq.

 

They were also used in Northern Watch-Desert Fox-Deny Flight and Just Cause.



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Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 03-Oct-2011 at 21:47
Thanks Centrix

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 05-Oct-2011 at 21:54

The Nazis were the first to use "flying wing" technology. This Horten HO-IX is in storage at the National Air and Space Museum awaiting restoration

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 07-Oct-2011 at 20:35

Reconstruction of the Nazis' Horten 229

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 07-Oct-2011 at 20:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjXr5w3M4mc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjXr5w3M4mc
 
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=105 - http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=105


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Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 09-Oct-2011 at 21:00

Here's a Northrop Flying Wing tested after the war. It's a very close copy of the Nazi jet

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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2011 at 00:14
UFO objects have existed once!


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2011 at 21:38
Flying saucers were actually experimental aircraft. The Americans had the Flying Pancake, the British had the Avrocar and the Nazis were apparently working on a similar aircraft before the war ended.

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2011 at 19:44

From a distance bombers like Ivan's Tupolev TU-95 bear a distinct resemblance to the cigar-shaped UFOs widely reported in the 1950s. Its fighter escort (especially if they emerged from cloud) could easily be interpreted as smaller flying saucers emerging from the mothership

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2011 at 22:09
Originally posted by Nick1986

Flying saucers were actually experimental aircraft. The Americans had the Flying Pancake, the British had the Avrocar and the Nazis were apparently working on a similar aircraft before the war ended.
 
That does not explain the bodies of the aliens recovered at Roswell.Wink


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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2011 at 20:46

Like its WWII namesake, the A-7 Corsair II was designed to be transported in an aircraft carrier. It replaced the USN's Skyhawk in 1965 and was retired in 1991

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2011 at 19:58
[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNofXKppggQ[/TUBE]

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2011 at 19:30

F-100 Super Sabre, a fighter-bomber with swept-back wings. These had the capability of dropping atom bombs and were still used by Taiwan in 1988

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2011 at 19:03

Ivan's answer to the Super Sabre: the MiG-19 Farmer. The Chinese fitted their MiGs with 30mm cannon and shot down several US fighters during the Vietnam war

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2011 at 19:03

The Messerschmitt Komet was the first rocket-powered plane. The Nazis hoped these would tip the balance of the war, but they arrived too little, too late


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2011 at 20:42

The Nazis also had the first VTOL jet. The Bachem 349 Natter was intended to be flown with little training. Once airborne all the pilot had to do was steer the plane towards the target and fire his missiles. He would then eject and the plane would release a parachute, float to the ground and refuel

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 31-Oct-2011 at 19:07

Japan's Ohka was more like a piloted missile than a jet fighter. Although the training version had wheels and could be landed, in combat these were flown by kamikazes into American warships


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 01-Nov-2011 at 20:36

The only Arado 234 jet to be preserved. The Nazis used these for reconnaissance over England in 1945. Several were fitted with radars and used as night-fighters, but scored no kills


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 02-Nov-2011 at 19:12

Another picture of the Arado

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 03-Nov-2011 at 22:17
While the Germans were evil bastards during the last war, you can't deny they had the coolest stuff. I'll have to look for pictures of that gigantic Nazi rocket-plane intended to drop an atom bomb on America


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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2011 at 02:37
they have invented most of rocket&airplane tech of modern era!In lack of new inventions they will start new war lot of new gadgets have to be invented.LOL
First Russian jet Fighter,Jak-15:(German legacy also)
http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/Yak-15/Jak-15.htm - http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/Yak-15/Jak-15.htm


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2011 at 20:21


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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 05-Nov-2011 at 10:31
stratospheric bombers during Cold War known as "Project 48":
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/48.html - http://www.russianspaceweb.com/48.html
new supersonic ICBM with supersonic speeds,Topol:
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/topolm.html - http://www.russianspaceweb.com/topolm.html  


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2011 at 21:05

Another rare Nazi jet: the Heinkel 162 People's Fighter. These were inexpensive to build and easy to replace, being built largely of plywood. As most of Germany's aces had been killed by this time, it was proposed these jets would be flown by Hitler Youth


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 07-Nov-2011 at 20:05


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 21-Nov-2011 at 19:25

While not a jet-fighter, this prototype American rocket-plane set the speed record in 1959. The X-15 reached the edge of outer space and is the ancestor of the space shuttle


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 22-Nov-2011 at 19:49
Re-posted as the original picture seems to have been deleted:

The MiG-21 Fishbed entered service in 1960 and remained in production for almost 30 years. It destroyed many American fighters in Vietnam and is still used by the Indian Air Force

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 23-Nov-2011 at 19:16

Lockheed F-104 "Starfighter." Despite its advanced-looking design it had a notoriously poor safety record, prompting its retirement in 1969 after just 11 years' service


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 27-Nov-2011 at 19:29
Who was the best movie jet pilot: Blondie or the Duke?

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 28-Nov-2011 at 19:36


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Date Posted: 29-Nov-2011 at 19:12


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 10-Dec-2011 at 19:14

The F-84 Thunderjet first flew in 1948 but by the time of the Korean War it was outclassed by the Mig-15. Although an improved design with swept-back wings entered service, the Americans soon replaced it in Korea with the Sabre


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 11-Dec-2011 at 19:10

The Sukhoi 22 Fitter, first flown in 1955, was Ivan's top fighter-bomber in the 60s. During the Indo-Pakistani War one of these planes made it back to base after surviving a direct hit from a Pakistani Sidewinder missile

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Posted By: ttdub
Date Posted: 15-Feb-2012 at 15:20
The F-15 is king of Jets!

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