Symbology
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Topic: Symbology
Posted By: SalokinX
Subject: Symbology
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 18:34
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Hi guys, I am in need of help to find meaningful symbols. I spent a lot of time the past few weeks trying to find something to my liking, but I just couldn't find it. The following picture is a symbol created by the band Behemoth, and is more of what I am looking for:  My friend and I tried to break this down and we got to the conclusion that it means: Double-headed Eagle: Power Up-side-down Cross: Religious rejection 7-pointed Star: Chaos When I looked for symbols, the results I got were symbols such as the ones that can be found at symbols.com or, when I searched for ancient symbols, things like ancient-symbols.com . None are really the kind of meaningful, almost world-wide known symbols like the ones above, which is really what I want. Also, I'm not sure if there is such a thing, but, if possible, I would also like to find some Ancient Mesopotamian symbols, preferably related to their mythology. Any books/websites would be very helpful! Thanks. |
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Posted By: Cryptic
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 20:43
You will not find any ancient symbols with the theme of "religous rejection". Finding an ancient symbol for "chaos" in very unlikely. All ancient cultures valued both religion and order.
The valuing of these two concepts are modern. The closest modern symbol would be a Maoist red star. It symbolizes Absolute power, religous rejection and included an awful lost of chaos. Of course, this came at the deaths of millions....
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Posted By: SalokinX
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 21:05
I understand that most of these are modern, I just asked for ancient symbols as something on the side, completely unrelated. I'm not really looking for anything that might represent any of the above symbols, I just wanted something of the same nature. For example, the chaos symbol is fairly recent, which is less than a century old. |
Posted By: p,c,ma
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 22:29
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Symbols like the pentacle and the swastaka(not sure i spelled that right) are what come to mind but they both have had so many meanings, like most symbols, its hard to pick one that fits. ------------- |
Posted By: SalokinX
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2010 at 15:19
Yes, those are the symbols I am looking for, but more of them. Although they have various meaning, it is usually easy to grab the meaning when in presence of other symbols. It all depends on the surroundings. Thanks for the help. |
Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2010 at 16:22
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Take a look at Celtic Astral symbols. They may be not exactly what your looking for but they can be modified and they don't come with a lot of baggage like the swastika. ------------- "Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces". Unknown. |
Posted By: Cryptic
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2010 at 16:23
I understand now. Try this link to ancient Chinese pictographs.
http://www.ancientscripts.com/chinese.html - http://www.ancientscripts.com/chinese.html
A pictograph is a very early Chinese character. They were very similar to "symbol type drawings". They then developed into more advanced and abstract characters.
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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2010 at 17:41
SalokinX, those three symbols that you mentioned have ancient origins too, for example about the first one, you can find this double-headed Eagle in the Sumerian, Hittite and other ancient archaeological remains, like this famous golden bowl from Hasanlu in the northwest of Iran:
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Posted By: p,c,ma
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2010 at 17:52
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Those symbols have no dark meaning though, they are just representing gods and godesses. ------------- |
Posted By: Baal Melqart
Date Posted: 14-Jun-2011 at 15:35
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Wait a second, the star is 8-pointed. As far as I know that represents existence in two dimensions (ie: soul and flesh). This symbol can also be found in the checkered pattern between black and white.
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Posted By: Baal Melqart
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2011 at 21:52
The double-headed eagle was the symbol of the Holy Roman Empire. ------------- Timidi mater non flet |
Posted By: HerodAntipas
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2011 at 09:02
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My fave symbol was always the ouroboros - the snake eating its own tail, symbol of eternity. Just thought I'd share .... ------------- ****************************** "Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh." Ecclesiastes. |
Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 28-Jul-2011 at 19:38
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Ah! Baal Melqart, posted the "double headed" bird, which I have surmised after a lot of study was not always that of the Eagle, but mostly, in the early times at least, a representation of the "Bird of the Battlefield" which was then as now, the modern "Crow, or Corvus", and with the name "Corvus" it was also the name of a shortlived attack vessel supposedly used by the Romans!
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Posted By: Baal Melqart
Date Posted: 30-Jul-2011 at 09:57
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Ah the famous Corvus quicquereme, apparently it had up to 5 oars and could launch a metal chain with a curved sharp tip. The enemy boat could then be pulled towards the Romans who loved nothing better than melee combat.
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