AE's Virtual Colosseum the mother of all VS topics
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Topic: AE's Virtual Colosseum the mother of all VS topics
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Subject: AE's Virtual Colosseum the mother of all VS topics
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2008 at 02:14
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In light of all the vs. articles I've made I decided that one mother of all vs. articles would be much more efficent and this time you can have multiple combatants in multiple situations at the same time working together or apart, so here it is the fight it can be at any place, time, or terrian, the fighters can have mounts of any kind as long they are horses or elephants but no camels. The point of this topic is to have fun, dispel myths, about the soldiers of the past, find out how good these ancient warriors would have been, and promote knowledge about ancient miltary history, The rules are this:
1 The fight must be without gunpowder weapons
or explosives of any kind
2 No wacky stunts (In other words no matrixy stuff)
3 This is a serious speculative thread so unless you have
a fight or something useful to contribute please don't post here.
4 No magic, lightsabers, Astartes, Master Chiefs etc. AT ALL!
5 You must have a good description of the weather, terrian, equipment, logistics, troops buildings (if there are any)give details (but don't bore the reader) try to make the fight fair and balanced and try to cover the variables, but not so much that people lose interest, and don't have the people killed by something unlikely and stupid
6 No lame unrealistic stuff (in other words don't have a knight killed by a thrown rock, a pulled muscle, a cramp, a falling meteor, or a health condition)
7 All the combatants are in excellent health in the colosseum (unlikey for the time period(s) we're talking about but there you have it) so there for you have to cover morale, mentality, physiology and phsycology.
8 These rules apply to all the fights, NO EXCEPTIONS! If you want to make a rule(s) for your fight contact me
9 You must stick with the fight at hand, you can do your own fight when its your turn and no copycating, also you don't decide the outcome right off the bat let people discuss it first, and you don't decide the outcome let people discuss the fight.
10 Other than that anything goes
Note: You can enter combatants from all era's of history and even fiction for example: rohan vs. the roman empire or a U.S marine vs. a mongol horse archer or vice versa AS LONG AS THE FIGHT FOLLOWS THE RULES!
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Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2008 at 19:09
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You obviously forgot camels. And a point to this topic. ------------- |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2008 at 20:11
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I updated the article -------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2008 at 04:29
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Welcome to the virtual colosseum
 I'm your host Count Belisarius btu you can call me Count if you like all my friends do so here is the first fight on the colosseum and it had to be perfect since its on such a wonderful sight with such wonderful people to view it here goes, let the games begin!! The first fight will be a roman legion vs. a medieval army, the fight takes place on clear sunny day with no breeze, in hilly terrain with small dips and valleys, all covered in thick long grass, and a few trees here and there, and a river in the middle of everything with small willows on each bank. The troops are: a usual roman legion of the principate consisting of five thousand five hundred roman legionaries, equipment: lorica segmenata 9which works like a suspension system so that it can repel a direct hit from a ballista, helmet with face masks (all the masks have the eyeholes enlarged to see better), manicae, and greaves, scutum, dagger (pugio) pilum, and gladius. Three thousand auxilarys, equipment: lorica hamata wraparound manicae, greaves, helmet, parma, dagger (pugio) spatha, and hasta. One alae with seven hundred horse archers, equipment: lorica hamata, wraparound manica mail gauntlets (with the exception of the horse archers) greaves, dagger (pugio) helmet with face mask (again with the exception of the archers), parma, spatha, and hasta, note: the alae upon seeing the knights have adopted stirrups and a high cantle and pommel. On thousand archers (sagatarii) with composite bows and broadhead and bodkin arrows, equipment: lorica hamata, greaves, spatha and pugio. five baleric slingers equipment: sling, staff sling, with fire pots that can be fired from the sling or flung from the hand, gladius and pugio. Three onagers with fire pots, stones and clay fragementation grenades. Three scorpio ballistae with bolts, fire pots, small stones. One polybolos, with bolts (don't know if the romans had those, but they'll be fun to use anyway
 ) four carroballistae with bolts, fire pots, and small stones. The crewman of the engines have bronze lorica squamatas, bronze plumed helmets, wraparound bronze manicae, bronze greaves, bronze mail gauntlets, gladius and dagger. the field medics (caparisarii) are armored like the legionaries only with medical gear and no sheilds they work in teams of two, their gear includes drugs, saws, tweezers, reeds, obsidian scapels, stretchers, and bandages and all their instruments are boiled. The commander, the officers, the singulares (which number five thousand), and the standard bearers are armed and armored like the alae except with muscle cuirasses and plumed helms, the commander has a purple cloak and plume on his helm and sabatons for his feet and a horse with full lamellar barding and his armor and his horse's armor is made of steel he has a lance with a steel head and a bow with steel arrow heads, his singulares (personal mounted guardsmen) have fully barded horses, lances, and bows, All of the roman troops and auxilarys swords, daggers and medical instruments with the excepiton of the scapels are made of a mixture of high carbon steel and low carbon iron all of the troops are highly trained in boxing wreslting and pankration and they are all battle hardened and experienced verterans however the Singulares, legionaries, and the alae are the best trained, most hardened and experinced, and the most disiplined, the roman moral is high but tinged with caution as they have won many battles and they feel nothing but contempt for these uncivilized peasants, but they know not to underestimate their enemy. The medieval army is composed of a thousand knights, equipment: full plate and chain with sheilds, lances, hand-and-a-half-swords and daggers, their horses have padded cloth caparisons and a chanfron, and seven hundred dismounted knights, equipment: same as the mounted knights. four hundred mounted men at arms with full chain mail armor, helmets, lances, swords, daggers and sheilds. Five hundred men at arms, equipment: same as the mounted men at arms. Seven hundred longbowmen, equipment: longbow with broadhead and bodkin arrows, brigandine cuirass, sword, dagger, and buckler. two hundred crossbow men, equipment: pavise, crossbow with broadhead and bodkin bolts, mail hauberk, helmet, sword and dagger. eight hundred mercenary pikemen, equipment: helmet, chain mail haubergon, twenty foot pike, short sword and dagger. A massive levy of eight thousand peasents, equipment: Varying rutsy farm implements, and whatever the could scavenge for armor. Three catapults with bolts and small stones, two ballistae with bolts and small stones, the crew are equiped in the same amnner as the longbowmen sans the bows
. The scenario: The medieval army under the command of Sir Oliver Hayward acting under the orders of Lord Carisbrooke have advanced behind the roman lines in attempt to attack them from behind and lift the siege of castle douglas however the Romans placed a legion under the command of Legate Gaius Marcellius Antonius in between two hills the only way that the medieval army could reach london in all the other routes would take to long or were occcupied by roman fortresses.The knights, the mercs, the men arms and the longbowmen are trained in medieval amrtila arts (primaryly wrestling and grappling) but the peasants have no training, and the commander has full plate barding for his horse and a crossbow their morale is high because they believe they will crush the invading scum but they know not to be stupid
Deployment of the Roman army: the romans have set up shop in between two hills each one crowned by large gnarly trees and brambles and undergrowth the romans have postioned a one fourth of the alae on each of the hills along with one fourth of the sagatarii and a third of the legion at the rear of the pass the sides of each hill have been covered with boulders, poisoned lilia and catrops and covered pits with with poisoned spikes, thse are also put at the font and rear of the pass along with large sapling sized stakes that are twelve feet tall to break up the knights and caltrops in the river, the rest of the alae are divided in two wings at the base of each hill, the legionaries, the auxilarys, the sagatarii the slingers and the engines are positioned in the pass twelve ranks of legionaries nine ranks of archers and six ranks of horse archers and the engines at the rear of the romans facing the knights.
The medieval army: The levys are set up at the front to find any traps, take arrows and take down the saplings the mouinted men at arms are
down the saplings, the dismounted men at arms are behind them to keep them going the mounted men at arms are behind them, with the dismounted knights and the mounted knights at the rear, the pike men are at the flanks the crossbow men are behind the pikes with longbowmen are behind the crossbowmen, with the engines at the rear
Miscellaneous: The romans are between five nine and half and six two in height the auxilarys are between five eleven and six four in height their commander is six four and a half
the knights are between five ten and six five the men at arms are around five eight and five eleven the mercs the missle troops and the levys are between five seven and five five eight
their commander is six five
the romans have a camp in the pass and a fresh water supply and and cattleand vegetables and good logistics
The battle: Sir Oliver swore softly, the romans were firmly entrenched, and who new what suprises the grass and the river held, ah well he would have to break them if he was careful he could make it through with enough men to relieve douglas. Legate Antonius waited for the barbarians to come even with all his preparations this would be dicey, ah well he would have to break them, if he was careful he could win this battle
"Send the levy forward, pikes hold, missle troops fire at will." "Engines target the enemy engines" "Charge!" cried Sir Oliver he wondered what it would be like to fight the enemy commander.
"Hold fast," snarled Antonius, "form a testudo, prepare to repel charge and to repel horse and countercharge, missle troops fire at will, engines target the enemy engines and fire, singulares and alae to me! hammer and anvil, horse archers fire at a run! charge, strength and honor! then the battle was joined, he braced himself in his new stirrups and wondered what it would be like to fight the enemy commander
Okay guys there are the missle troops trading shots and shooting at the enemy there are the engines firing at each other there legionaries and auxilarys fighting levys, enemy cavalry, in formation and in mass melee and one on one and the commanders are fighting each other, and the roman legates bodygaurds are fighting the english commanders brother knights who do you think would win?
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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2008 at 14:39
Merlin, sat on a sturdy branch that could carry the weight of Sherwood's finest. He is 8 foot nine with a long grey beard and wears a cloak made out of tempered spider silk. He observes the battle while eyeing the young and wounded. He wastes no time as the Roman legions and Medieval armies were too busy showing off thus brandishing their arms to have noticed; Merlin made off with the young Arturius and staked a claim for the future of Britain.  ------------- |
Posted By: Darius of Parsa
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2008 at 15:43
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There are too many variables for these kinds of threads, as I tried to explain to you earlier. ------------- What is the officer problem? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2008 at 16:41
 Allow moi to refer you to the new rules number five, and six -------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2008 at 18:11
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Well come on lets discuss this -------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 25-Sep-2008 at 21:15
I think that counts as trolling (no offense)-------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 25-Sep-2008 at 21:16
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Come guys lets discuss -------------
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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 25-Sep-2008 at 21:27
Cut me some slack boss! To be visited by this troll, this often is an honor for most make-believe Counts.  ------------- |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 25-Sep-2008 at 21:46
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I think that the romans would win since their employing the formation they used to beat cataphracts which were much heavier than the thirteenth century knight however they would take lots of casualties as the cataphracts didn't have stirupps, and the alae would be hard pressed even with their new stirupps, the singulares would fare better because of their barding. The engines would be so busy with each other that they couldn't shoot at the enemy troops, the missle troops, poisoned caltrops and stake pits and lilia and infantry would shred the levys, the infantry would have a harder time with the dismounted knights and men at arms but they would eventually triumph, the missle troops would have a hard time matching the long bow and crossbow men however their arrows couldn't get through the testudo and they were taken by suprise from the roman countercharge, lets see hwo the commanders are doing Sir Oliver stepped and stared at the enemy commander and the dead bodys of his brother knights thta the roman had easily cut down the rest of were busy fighting waht was left of the enemy commanders body guards, he circled the roman carefully this time as he knew that the roman fought like a demon. Legate Gaius stepped away from the knight over the body of one his singulares, his best men and the knight had cut them down like grass, what was left of them were fighting the remains of the enemy commanders brother knights, knights that he had easily killed without breaking a sweat, and they were the enemy commanders best men, he charged the knight again but with more caution this time, for the enemy commander fought like a demon okay so who do you think would win? there are also a bunch of other fights going on, who do you think will win in those? -------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 05-Oct-2008 at 17:41
Oh come on guys, you've got to be kidding me I cannot believe that no one wanted to discuss this
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2008 at 23:49
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Come on anyone? -------------
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Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2008 at 14:28
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I'll discuss!What Medevial peripod are we talking about?I assume you just mean your basic Knights?Ill be the Knights then!Your army is marching through the wods after a great victory.Its dark.You here a brush of leaves and some men talking in old English.There comes ou of the forest the army of King William the Conquerer!You are takin by suprise.your Horses are afraid and run off.So there you are.A few of your best men and your best non-scardey cat horses.You fight well.But Williams army does a Duke Harold on your genral and shoots you in the eye with a arrow.I cand deal with this you think while the arrow comes(you think really fast).But NO!Its not the arrows King Williams army wouldm use.Its a crossBow.Your eye splatters on the ground and you fall off your horse.Your men that are still living (and thats miraculus anough) lose are there last courage and flee to Rome. ------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2008 at 16:20
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There is already a scenario, I'm talking thirteenth-fourteenth century knights please stick to the scenario at hand -------------
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Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2008 at 16:28
Oh,  .Well same war diffrent battle.------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2008 at 16:33
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Now who do you think would win the fight?. By the way William the conquerer had been dead for years so no this isn't the same war and we are doing the fight at hand not some other battle. I would suggest you read the colosseum rules and try to spell correctly -------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2008 at 16:51
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Okay new fight, any takers?
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Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 19-Oct-2008 at 03:33
Ill fight you this time because I finnaley get the rules.Im a slow person ------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2008 at 16:25
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You need to see rule number eight -------------
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Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2008 at 21:05
Okey Dokey then!  ------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 23-Oct-2008 at 00:02
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Well come on make a fight -------------
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Posted By: Cezar
Date Posted: 24-Oct-2008 at 07:16
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 24-Oct-2008 at 22:58
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You need to read rule number three -------------
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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 25-Oct-2008 at 01:03
Seeing the rules above the sinister Seko had a battle of epic proportions for his post. His fight would be between The Man With No Name versus 10 Byzantine Cataphracts.The battle starts out in the middle of a small Arizona town at high noon. The cataphracts Tense moments pass. Seeing that their fellow soldiers fell to the tall figure without much of a fight, the other six cataphracts charged in unison. They were hell bent and galloped at full tilt. Raising their lances, swords, maces and voodoo dolls (in the shape of Sarah Pallin) they honed in for the kill. At the other end of the dirt road, the Man With No Name waited then whipped open the right side of his long leather coat and placed his hand on a revolver. All of a sudden came the right moment to raise a gun. The cataphracts moved in closer and gave out a loud warrior yell, "Aargh, uhh, Ouch, Oooff, kaplunk! In the heat of that one quick moment Clint looked at his gun and opened the chamber, for he had successfully spent all six bullets. "Hey dude! Screamed the now wary Count. You didn't follow rule number 8."
"Yeah I know", was the response. "and I've never seen so many men wasted so badly." The Count ranted - "But you can't do that with my thread! Count Belisarius was now beside himself. He looked for the nearest weapon. Any weapon. None was to be found that remained intact. So he grabbed a shovel from the nearest trading post. Charging out towards The Man With No Name in some kind of fascinating psychotic fury and with the anger of a trully deranged individual, the mad Count raised the butt end of his shovel and was about to club Clint over the head when at that precise moment, he stumbled. That's when, out of the Count's pockets, flew little plastic toy soldiers. Clint motioned over to the him with his index finger so as to come closer. The frightened Belisarius picked his head up from off the ground and, with all the guts of one who lost all dignity, he listened to the tall figure in front of him.  "There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend. Those who have a loaded gun and those who dig. You dig, and while you are digging read rule number 10! Then in the blur of the moment The Man With No Name was gone. Moral of this story? If you are going to create rules then be sure to control them. Otherwise, when you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!   ------------- |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 25-Oct-2008 at 02:13
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Arrrrrgggh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bleep! bleep! bleep! bleep! bleep! bleep! bleep!
Seko you should be ashamed -------------
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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2008 at 18:27
We love ya Count. Where else could I get away with this delightfully fabricated battle if it weren't for the Mother of All VS Topics?
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2008 at 04:43
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I wouldn't mind if you would obey the rules -------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2008 at 00:00
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Well Goblin Monkey enter your combatants you said you wanted to fight me? by that do you mean you make an army and then I make one and we face them off? -------------
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Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 02-Nov-2008 at 01:03
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Ill just make my army and you make yours.Lets make them sorta EVEN.Okay my army is of the Mongolian empire.Led by the great Khan.Genghis Khan,and about 500 horse archers, 500 light cavalry,and 250 heavy cavalry.
Heres the "arena".Its a cold night in the Steppes.My army is camped out in a large base and my men are preparing for a fight against _____________ .The leafey grasses are all my men have eaten for days as they have been conquesting your armys!Yet they are strong and do not whine.They prepare for battle as your army comes forward.Yet who is your army?
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 02-Nov-2008 at 02:22
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My army is three hundred and fifty gothic knights with full plate armor, full plate barding for their horses, longsword, mace, dagger, lance, small powerful all metal crossbow with one hundred metal bolts they are highly trained in martial arts and can fire their crossbows at a high rate of speed or in relays.
three hundred and fifty pike and halberd men with half armor, katzbalger, dagger, and shields
one hundred and fifty doppelsoldners with three quarter plate armor and dagger
one hundred and fifty crossbowmen with half armor, pavise, dagger, sword, buckler, and one hundred metal bolts, they are trained to fire in relays
one hundred and fifty longbowmen with half armor, bracers, one hundred arrows, dagger, sword, and buckler
one hundred and fifty mounted longbow and and crossbow men equipment is the same as the longbow men
They have all been highly trained and are hardened veterans
they have been well fed on meat, grains, vegtables and fruit, milk and spring water and their morale is high because if they found out that the khan is with the enemy army and if they can kill him htye win the whole war
my commander is a very large agile and fast man, the best soldier anyone has ever seen and he is a brilliant commander he is a gothic knight
my men after luring the khans men into a trap are deployed in circle the knights are deployed on the mongol flanks and rear with a screen of knights at their flanks and rear to prevent an enemy suprise attack
the foot soldiers are advancing forward (the mongols are somewhat taken aback by the charging longbowmen) with their shields raised the longbowmen are behind them while the crossbow men at the back are firing over their heads the mounted missle troops are deployed on the flanks and with the knights to harras the enemy or dismount and fire
there are also shallow pits and caltrops to force the horse archers to go where the gothic force wants them to go -------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 02-Nov-2008 at 20:28
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So who do you think wins? -------------
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Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 09-Nov-2008 at 18:03
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The Khan yells somthing in ancient mongolian and the horsemen get fired up.They raise there spears and charge at the sourounding soldiers.The moon shining on the large angry soldiers.They destroy the moral of the troops and most of them reatreat.The other ones try to re-group back at their camp but their not used to the desserts and pleautes of the Steppes.The Mongols use their trained horses to track them down in the enviorment they know.So they meet in a wide part of the desert.The reamening troops and the Cavalry.There is a suprisingly small amount of troops it looks and the soliers are encouraged.They call their comrades out of hiding and make their full or almost full army once again.Then your great commander senses somthing isnt right.Well hes right.A swarm of Mongol horsemen come from the distance shooting arrows and screaming battle crys.Your soldiers are confused and worried and the mongols slaughter them.The out of control soldiers are rallied by your commander who manages to kill a few of my horsemen.Yet their are just to many of the horsmen and to many of your dead men for the soldiers to win.The commander dies in valor fighting for his country. MONGOLS WIN!!! ------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 09-Nov-2008 at 18:05
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Can we have one robot vs. evil clowns fight pleeeeeeeeeeassseee????!!!Me and Seko can have that fight. ------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 10-Nov-2008 at 15:42
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How exactly do you destroy my morale? did you read my list through? the mongols can't charge through caltrops and the crossbows and longbows (If longbowmen can stand up to fench knights gimpy horse archers aren't gonna destroy their morale, horse archers are like the samurai highly overrated) royally mess their day up they can't get though pikes halberds and sheilds and the obstacles force the mongols to go where the gothic force wants them to then the gothic force knigths with their crossbows rain death and catch the mongols from behind and on the sides due to their deployment not mention the fact that your mongols bow's can't get through gothic armor and chain. So my men hold their ground and you charge into the caltrops and obstacles then my knight's charge you from behind and on the flanks
BTW you should read some history the mongols and other horse archers have been torn apart hundreds of times by heavy cavalry -------------
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2008 at 01:34
NOOO!!! -------------
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Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2008 at 01:59
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This is sooooooooooo boring.All the freakin rules.Its not military school so now I will defie you and make my clown vs. Robot war.
Its a dark night on MARS!The robots have awaken from a deep slumber in their metal catacombs and eat viscoulisley on the meat of the local mini horses.Then out of the blue a army of EVIL CLOWNS ON GIANT FLYING FLAMINGOS!!!They rush down from the sky and snatch up the little robot babys.The robot king is angerd and sends out his royal guard trashcan soldiers.There is a long hard fight yet out of the smoke and dust,the robots are NOT victorius.The clowns have their will with the people.Killing and enslaving.Yet wait its not over, here comes AQUA MAN!He some how flushes out of the sky even though he cant fly and calls on all the flyimg water animals of Mars to attack the clowns.A swarm of mutant half elephant dolphins, som yellow spotted sea/air urchin, and a talking plant named Phyto.This sea/air army would use it light sabers and karate chops to destroy the clowns that all already had really bad hang nails and the hicups.So then Aqua mans sea/air army conquers mars!Right?NOOOOOOO.Here comes santa clause!!His flying polar bears are much more superior then Aqua Mans water/air forces!The Polar Bears rip out there hearts and eat them for breakfest even though it 3:39 PM Martian time. FIN ------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2008 at 02:31
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I have had enough with all the spammers/trollers. I will be d***ed if I let you or anyone else ruin my hard work and my thread(s). -------------
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Posted By: King John
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2008 at 17:09
| Goblin Monkey, please stick to the parameters of the thread. |
Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 16-Nov-2008 at 18:06
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Potatoes! ------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 22-Nov-2008 at 21:28
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Gobbo read the rules which clearly say that if you don't have anything useful to contribute don't post here.
BTW please get rid of your clown post. -------------
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Posted By: Goblin Monkey
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2008 at 02:02
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No you got baned so HAAA!!! ------------- Is it just me or did your mom just wink at me? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2008 at 23:58
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Guess again BTW according to the rules the Mongol vs. Goth fight is still on
So everyone who do you think wins? -------------
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30-Dec-2008 at 22:46
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Well you didn’t give much choice to the mongols :) If they stay the whey you descrybed they will lose, thay cannot use the mobility and speed of thay’r horse archers and light cavalry. BUT if thay would use theyr heavy cavalry to punch a hole in the line of the knights(you sad that the 350 gothic knights are deployed at the mongols flanks and rear) so it would be aprox 116 knights at one part (if the trap has a squer shape) against 250 mongol heavy cavalry... If thay desorganising the line of the knights( or literally break it ) than the light cavalry and archers can escape, and that would be very bat for the Gots, as you described they have no light units to catch the fast mongol units ( except the 150 mounted longbow man but 150 vs 1000 is not a question) In conclusion if the mongols fail to escape the trap they are don for, but if they are able to break trout the knights they can use theyr superior mobility to slowly destroy the gothic forces. |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 30-Dec-2008 at 23:16
| You forgot the crossbowmen, and longbowmen can fire twenty rounds a minute, also the knights have already charged the mongols and the trap is more like a triangle, and they they have also been attacked by foot troops, along with dismounted missle troops |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 30-Dec-2008 at 23:17
| BTW the knights have their own missle weapons |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 30-Dec-2008 at 23:21
| BTW Gobbo only has five hundred horse archers |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 11:21
| From what distance are the knights charging, and how far are the foot troops when they begin theyr charge?????? |
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 16:22
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Knights (Flanks) one hundred yards
Rear one fifty
Infantry one eighty
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 18:16
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Very unlikely... the mongols have 500 light cavalry, ideal for scouting the arreas around the camp and detecting any incoming hostile force. BUT if you incist, the procedure vould be very similar to the above described, if the trap is triangularli shaped that vould be 175 gothic knights against 250 mongol heavy cavalry and 500 light cavalry, the mongol light cavalry man all had lassos so thay vould be equalli dangeres to the knights as the heavy cavalry....lets say the initial rain of arrows kills 1/3 of the mongols so its aprox 175 heavy and aprox 340 light cavalry vith lassos against 175 gothic knights, The Knights have better equipment overall but the light cavalry vith the lassos could make series "damage"...
if the mongols escape the trap the goths are don for mongols are faster, and the mongol bow had a range aprox 500 meter, vheres long bows and crossbows of that time have max range 250 meter
I think if the mongols didnt have the lasso the gots chance to win vould be 80%+
but vith lassos the mongols are more likeli to escape and win.
( Sorry for my bad English)
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 19:25
| How exactly would a lasso do you any good in a tight formation? Also a destrier is very fast, the light wont be any good packed that tightly, your forgetting the longbows massive rate of fire, also even the mongols can get out (while going uphill) they will have been so badly mauled they will only be thinking of retreating and the knights have martial arts, full plate and they are doing they're best to kill the khan. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 19:58
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Well on second tought it seams you are right! Gothic plate is one of the best plate armors( if not the best :) ) plus if the knights are using theyr crossbows, that vould be 800 ranged units( who are better protected ) against the 500 mongol horse archer. Being so close, the greater range of the mongol bow will not be mutch help... plus the rate of fire of the longbowman vould have a devastating efect... ( alltought all this is so becous of the close range)
So finaly: chance for gothic victory 90+%
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 21:05
| Okay because of the factors mentioned above I think the goths have the advantage and thye win now if the mongols weren't trapped... Okay next fight |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 22:03
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Ok , a fight against your gothic army!!!!( or if you vant you can make a nother army, but it vould be better against the gots) I will post the details of my army tomorrow.
Happy new year to all!!!
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 22:21
| I will use the goths only the each part of the force will be expanded five times! It's time for a big armies baby! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2008 at 22:33
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Splendid :) Thet means 6250, now we are talking :D
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