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Topic: Beijing 2008 - Olympic Games
Posted By: Ikki
Subject: Beijing 2008 - Olympic Games
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 12:18
In less than a hour will begin the Olympic Games, the opening ceremony can be a wonderful spectacle never seen before and i hope that the entire games become the best in the history. Only can give congratulations to the chinese people (our fellows included Cheers ) because their effort and improvements they have done in past years. Good luck!!
 
http://en.beijing2008.cn/ - http://en.beijing2008.cn/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/7547074.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/7547074.stm
 
 



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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 14:40
A thread dedicated to the games is a good idea and this one should serve that purpose just fine. You do know that this will turn into the daily King Kang editorial section once he see's this thread. Still, we can post results, get involved in heated discussions over the scoring system in gymnastics and show our obligatory goodwill to the Chinese Olympic hosts. This-post-of-yours-made-no-sense-at-all,-and-I-think-you-are-an-idiot,-but-I-am-so-not-going-to-drop-down-to-your-level-and-admit-it-to-your-face 

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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 15:29
It's not just a question of the scoring system in gymnastics, it's whether gymnastics should be in there at all. Might as well have ballet (and I'm a balletomane).

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Posted By: Peteratwar
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 15:34
Just hope the air pollution doesn't affect too many athletes,
 
Chinese figures put them at tolerable (just) level. Other independent readings put them way over the danger mark.
 
Worrying


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 17:19
What an opening ceremony. My word what a spectacle. Its China's time, and I hope everybody else is generous enough to remember that.


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Posted By: Al Jassas
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 17:19
The best torch lighting ever!
 
Al-Jassas


Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 18:38
A bit like 1936, where i wasn't aboard, to take the wind out of your's sails.
 
Too bomabstic. Too finical.
If chairman Mao could have seen this, he would turn over in his grave.
Let's watch how it will go on....


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 19:35
What was Nazi about it Ulrich. Was it the "hope for harmony" or the pictures of the people of the world. Wait, wait it must have been that boy who saved some eathquake victims.
 
jeez!


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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 19:43
that Iranian flag-bearer, Mullahs: Islam is in danger!
 
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Sport/?id=1.0.2403699726 - http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Sport/?id=1.0.2403699726
 
Tehran, 8 August (AKI) - Iranian religious figures have criticised that Olympic female rower Homa Hosseini was chosen as the flagbearer of Iran, calling the move a 'heresy'.


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Posted By: Ikki
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 20:01
Originally posted by Sparten

Wait, wait it must have been that boy who saved some eathquake victims.
 
jeez!
 
That was very emotive, the giant sporter with that giant person, the children.
 
Pakistan received a great ovation from the public Wink


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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 20:09
Originally posted by Sparten

What was Nazi about it Ulrich. Was it the "hope for harmony" or the pictures of the people of the world. Wait, wait it must have been that boy who saved some eathquake victims.
 
jeez!
 
A totalitarian regime tries to hocus the world. That was my comparison.
Here like there the world is led up the garden path.
Some doters of the IOC do a common thing with murders and rapscallions. A very interessting mixture,indeed...


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 20:11
Be good neighbours! Anyway, this must be our worst team ever, no boxers and we have a snowballs chance in hell in Hockey.


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Posted By: Ikki
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 20:12
Great, great and great
 


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 21:32
Originally posted by Seko

A thread dedicated to the games is a good idea and this one should serve that purpose just fine. You do know that this will turn into the daily King Kang editorial section once he see's this thread. Still, we can post results, get involved in heated discussions over the scoring system in gymnastics and show our obligatory goodwill to the Chinese Olympic hosts. This-post-of-yours-made-no-sense-at-all,-and-I-think-you-are-an-idiot,-but-I-am-so-not-going-to-drop-down-to-your-level-and-admit-it-to-your-face 
 
Was that a bait or were you just picking on me?Big%20smile  It worked like bacon to Homer Simpson.LOL  http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=714-Ioa4XQw - http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=714-Ioa4XQw
 
There is no way I can even try to follow or comment on every event like I did in Euro 08, so no worries. 
 
Events and teams, I will try to follow;  Football(of course), Basketball, Volleyball, Baseball, Hockey, Handball, Boxing, Taekwondo, Judo, Archery, Swimming, and maybe some gymnasitcs......  Wow that's a lot, actually. 
 

http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/archery/index.shtml - Archery
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/athletics/index.shtml - Athletics
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/badminton/index.shtml - Badminton
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/baseball/index.shtml - Baseball
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/basketball/index.shtml - Basketball
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/beachvolleyball/index.shtml - Beach Volleyball
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/boxing/index.shtml - Boxing
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/canoekayakflatwater/index.shtml - Canoe/Kayak Flatwater
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/canoekayakslalom/index.shtml - Canoe/Kayak Slalom
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/cyclingbmx/index.shtml - Cycling BMX
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/cyclingmountainbike/index.shtml - Cycling Mountain Bike
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/cyclingroad/index.shtml - Cycling Road
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/cyclingtrack/index.shtml - Cycling Track

http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/diving/index.shtml - Diving
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/equestrian/index.shtml - Equestrian
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/fencing/index.shtml - Fencing
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/football/index.shtml - Football
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/artisticgymnastics/index.shtml - Gymnastics Artistic
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/rhythmicgymnastics/index.shtml - Gymnastics Rhythmic
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/trampoline/index.shtml - Trampoline
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/handball/index.shtml - Handball
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/hockey/index.shtml - Hockey
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/judo/index.shtml - Judo
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/modernpentathlon/index.shtml - Modern Pentathlon
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/rowing/index.shtml - Rowing
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/sailing/index.shtml - Sailing

http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/shooting/index.shtml - Shooting
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/softball/index.shtml - Softball
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/swimming/index.shtml - Swimming
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/synchronizedswimming/index.shtml - Synchronized Swimming
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/tabletennis/index.shtml - Table Tennis
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/taekwondo/index.shtml - Taekwondo
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/tennis/index.shtml - Tennis
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/triathlon/index.shtml - Triathlon
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/volleyball/index.shtml - Volleyball
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/waterpolo/index.shtml - Water Polo
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/weightlifting/index.shtml - Weightlifting
http://en.beijing2008.cn/sports/wrestling/index.shtml - Wrestling                                                        

(Click on a sport above and will show the schedule)
 
 
 
But once again I can't follow every match or team even in the sports that I'm interested.  I will try to follow the Korean athletes as much as the coverage here in U.S. and my schedule will allow me to.  Excited about U.S. Men's Basketball of course.  Spain, Germany, China also.  Hmmm they are all in the same group.  Tough luck for China and good for Argentina.  (EDIT, I can't believe France and China didn't make it)   Also excited North Korean Women's Football team who are in the same group with Germany, Brazil and Nigeria, ouch.Ouch
 
Well, let the games begin!
 
P.S.  Sparten, Pakistan doesn't have a good Hockey team this year?  From what I can remember they usually have a strong team.   South Korean Women's team is descent I think. 


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Posted By: Justinian
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2008 at 21:49

For the summer olympics its all about swimming.  Have to see how phelps does, though it won't be the same without the Thorpedo.  (I would always root for him even against americans)Embarrassed  I missed the opening ceremony, just not as interested this time around.



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Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 04:47
its was brilliant at times, long winded and ho-hum in others.

I'd it took over 4 hours from start to finish, surely that is longer than before.




Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 05:43
That was fantastic. A historical event that will always been remembered in Chinese history and the history of the Communist Dynasty. From now on, China is top dog.
Originally posted by Ikki

Pakistan received a great ovation from the public

Indeed, I was very pleased with Pakistans great ovation from the Chinese crowd. Actually I made a list of all the countries that received big ovations (bear in mind the crowd is an international crowd, and not exclusively chinese)

The best ovations went to:
Pakistan
Cuba
Iraq
Iran
Great Britain
Venezuela
France
South Africa
Russia
USA
North Korea
Switzerland (the commentator suggested this was for Federa)
Italy
Mexico
Germany
Australia
Chinese Taipei (I was very pleased at this one)
Chinese Hong Kong
Singapore, and of course
China

I think that is a great list. Nice & mixed.

But lastly, Go Palestine!



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 06:14
I am watching womens volleyball. Brazil v  Algeria. Whens
the swimmming?
 
King Kang, Pakistan team is horrid now. But even when we were good we always lost to S Korea. In '94 we won the world cup and champions trophy, and in both we lost to S Korea. Not mention the Olympic Semi Final in 2000.
 
 
Leo; Sydney was 4 hours as well. Parade of nations takes too long. I think they should end the all athelets march and replace it with just the flags bearer marching.
 


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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 06:42

Btw, the Icelandic Team counts 51 athlets, wheras the handball-team is the most promising.



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Posted By: Pierrewatteau
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 09:50
I have to say, this Olympic Games opening ceremony has to be the most sumptuous opening ceremony that has ever presented.  In my view it is astonishingly beautiful (the art and set decoration and costume); artistically, it is almost perfection (its technical aspect) and exquisitely done (look at the details of these clothing!).  It is just a wonderful representation of this culture and the culture's artistic heritage. 


Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 12:13
Originally posted by Sparten

What was Nazi about it Ulrich. Was it the "hope for harmony" or the pictures of the people of the world. Wait, wait it must have been that boy who saved some eathquake victims.
 
jeez!


The flags and the goosestepping sent my thoughts that way. Soldiers do not belong on a modern Olympic arena Dead

Otherwise it was a fantastic show.

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Swedish television is just sending two boring women's football games right now. Thankfully Finnish TV has some better sense.





Posted By: Roberts
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 12:26
Originally posted by Styrbiorn

Originally posted by Sparten

What was Nazi about it Ulrich. Was it the "hope for harmony" or the pictures of the people of the world. Wait, wait it must have been that boy who saved some eathquake victims.
 
jeez!


The flags and the goosestepping sent my thoughts that way. Soldiers do not belong on a modern Olympic arena Dead

Otherwise it was a fantastic show.

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Swedish television is just sending two boring women's football games right now. Thankfully Finnish TV has some better sense.




I would rather watch women's football than women's swimming events Dead. Thats what Latvian TV is showing.


Posted By: Frederick Roger
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 12:36
Originally posted by Al Jassas

The best torch lighting ever!
 
Al-Jassas
 
Barcelona 92. Wink
 
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=gSA9xUUXj6E - http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=gSA9xUUXj6E


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 13:12
Originally posted by Styrbiorn

Originally posted by Sparten

What was Nazi about it Ulrich. Was it the "hope for harmony" or the pictures of the people of the world. Wait, wait it must have been that boy who saved some eathquake victims.
 
jeez!


The flags and the goosestepping sent my thoughts that way. Soldiers do not belong on a modern Olympic arena Dead

Otherwise it was a fantastic show.

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Swedish television is just sending two boring women's football games right now. Thankfully Finnish TV has some better sense.



All the soldiers did was raise the flag. The looked smart. I have seen soldiers at FA Cup finals. Why pick on China.
 
Confused


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Posted By: Ikki
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 17:00
Our first golden medal!!! In cycling
 
 
 
 
bravo Samuel Sánchez!


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Posted By: Władysław Warnencz
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 17:02
US tourist dies in Beijing attack
 
 
Saturday, 9 August 2008 11:34 UK

A US tourist has been stabbed to death by a Chinese man in central Beijing, officials have said.
A second tourist was badly hurt in the attack at the Drum Tower monument. The pair are relatives of a US Olympic volleyball team coach.
The assailant then committed suicide by jumping from the 13th Century landmark, officials say. The motive is not known.
The BBC's Quentin Somerville says murders, especially targeting foreigners, are very rare in China.
The attack happened despite high security across the capital on the first full day of Olympic competition, with more than 150,000 police and other personnel on patrol.
Officials named the Chinese man as 47-year-old Tang Yongming, from the eastern town of Hangzhou, but said they had no idea what had motivated his attack or suicide.
"While at the Drum Tower in central Beijing, the two family members were stabbed during an attack by what local law enforcement authorities have indicated was a lone assailant," the International Olympic Committee said in a statement.
Reports say the tourists' guide was also hurt.
On the scene
The attack happened at the popular tourist attraction some three miles (5km) from the main Olympics site, at around midday local time.


The attack happened the day before US President George W Bush - in Beijing to attend the Games - is due to meet Chinese President Hu Jintao.
A US embassy spokesman said he was aware of the reports of the attack.
"I can tell you that we are working with the family and the Chinese authorities as we speak," Richard Buangan told AFP news agency.
US embassy officials have been despatched to the hospital where the two injured attack survivors have been sent.
 
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7550969.stm - Source


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 17:13
By the way, womens beach volleyball; amazed it does not have more errrr exposure.

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Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 17:17
I must say, the Olympics are excellent. I hope I can see sailing and archery. Other things can go... 

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Posted By: Gargoyle
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 17:46

Originally posted by Styrbiorn

Soldiers do not belong on a modern Olympic arena

Absolutely correct!!!

Speaking of Nazis...

Apparently the Nazis were responsible for introducing the tradition of the torch relay to the modern Olympic Games... this piece of propaganda first began in Berlin 1936 and has continued to this day...

I will finish now with an interesting quote from Adolf Hitler...

"The sportive, knightly battle awakens the best human characteristics. It doesn't separate, but unites the combatants in understanding and respect. It also helps to connect the countries in the spirit of peace. That's why the Olympic Flame should never die."





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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 17:52
Did you know. Hitler used to breath oxygen! Anybody who breaths oxygen is a Nazi supporter or worse!

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Posted By: Gargoyle
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 18:11

Originally posted by Sparten

Did you know. Hitler used to breath oxygen! Anybody who breaths oxygen is a Nazi supporter or worse!


Apparently the air in Beijing is very high in clean fresh oxygen... which I'm sure all the athletes will enjoy competing in...




   

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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 18:43
Originally posted by Sparten

Did you know. Hitler used to breath oxygen! Anybody who breaths oxygen is a Nazi supporter or worse!


Making a hen out of a bird, are we? May be that people here are over-sensitive to flag-waving and marches, but no ridicule will change my view that goosestepping soldiers does not belong to the Olympics. I didn't, however, equate them with Nazis or even suggested that. Let's get back to watching the actual games, no?


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:03
Watching women's football China vs Canada and swtiching back and forth with women's volleyball Russia vs Italy.  
 
Good game China vs Canada.  China had better possessions but Canada looked more dangerous in the box.  Canada scored first from a great looping pass that just went over not so great wall of the Chinese backline finding the Canadian striker in one on one with the Chinese keeper.  1:0, Canada.     I can't remember her name right now but they say that Canadian striker has som 120+ caps and 90+ goals in her international career.  Wow that's pretty impressive.  If she was a man....   let's not go there.   But China came right back with another great through pass that created one on one situation with the keeper .  The Canadian keeper came out.  The Chinese attacker veered off the her right drawing the keeper out even more, juke her off one more time and rolled it slowly but surely to the goal.  A Canadian defender tried to clear it sliding in but she was about ball width late.  Ilove those goals.  It seems like the time slows down when the ball rolls toward the empty net.  And the failed sliding clearance effort makes it even more dramatic.   1:1 tied.  Gosh, these Chinese girls are so much smaller than the Canadian girls. 
 
Russia came out strong first and took the first set against the Italians  in women's volleyball but Italins came back and won three straight sets and won.  I guess the Italians are #2 and Russians are #8 but the Russians are the defending champs, so it should been more competitive but once the Italians got it going it was over.  The Russians look so much taller than the Italians but not as coordinated.  Just like men's football, looks like these Italian girls know how to defend also.  The setter(or is the defensive specialist now? you know the one with different color uniform) from Russian team is pretty hot, maybe because she's not a 7 footer.  Not that anything wrong with 7 footer chicks.  It makes no difference when you are lying down, I've heard. Big%20smile    I guess it's either the Russian coach is Italian or the Italian coach is Russian.   The commentator is saying that you only need about 25 words to coach a volleyball team.  Really?  That many?  I thought all you need to say is,'Dig! Dig!  Dig more!  Dig harder!.......'  Maybe that's just for the North Korean team.
 
Hey, Sparten, thanks for the info on Hockey.  I thought South Korean girls better than the men(well in many aspects they are but in Hockey in this case), but the girls didn't even it this time and men are coming in as the defending Asian champs.  India is not in either?  I thought they usually had good team too.   So, who are the other strong contenders?  The Dutch?  The Aussies?  Russia?  Spain?  maybe New Zealand?  I don't know.  Just for you Sparten, I will cheer for Pakistan unless they have play Korea.


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:25
Woooooo, Russia vs Korea in women's handball!   14:11 Russia still first half.  The Russian keeper is amazing.  If I ever picked up on a sport seriously, being the handball keeper would be one of the last ones I would consider.  The Russians are so much more bigger and physical though.  Woo, Korea won the 2 min powerplay!   
 
"Daehanminguk!"  koongchaka koongcha   "Daehanminguk"  koongchaka koongcha


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Posted By: Penelope
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:30
The opening ceremony was definately one for the books, very spectacular. At the moment im watching the Japan vs. United States women's volleyball game. They both appear to be giving the fans what they want, a very great and intense game.


Posted By: Al Jassas
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:34
Barcelona is actually my second best, that was the first Olympics I saw when I had enough senses to understand what it was all about, I was 9. I always wondered if that archer missed what would the spaniards so to him?
 
Al-Jassas


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:52
Woo Korean girls were down 8, 26:18 but theu just score 6 in a row and a earned another power play just now with less than 10 mins to go. 
 
Wow anothe goal, 7 straight goal.  wow 8 straight goals. the game is tied now Korea with a girl(?) advantage.  Wow!


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 20:06
The game ended 29:29 tie.  Great efforts from the both team, especially the Russian keeper.  Love the way Korean girls fought back from the deficit. 8 goals with less than 15 mins to go, that's pretty hard to comeback against a good team. 
 
Cheers for both teams!ClapCheersThumbs%20Up 


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Posted By: Władysław Warnencz
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 20:21
Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

 
A totalitarian regime tries to hocus the world. That was my comparison.
Here like there the world is led up the garden path.
Some doters of the IOC do a common thing with murders and rapscallions. A very interessting mixture,indeed...
 
Exactly!China is trying to proove it's a "peaceful" and "tollerant" country,while religious, political and basic human rights are being ciolated.Did you notice that chinese and foreigners were put in different sectors?Obviously the government doesn't want their citizens to be in touch with foreigners - they might contract some dangerous desiese like free will,lust for democracy,demand for free media,human rights and such... LOL


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 21:11
Judo%20Day%201%20Review:%20Romania%20and%20ROK%20rumble%20to%20victory
 
 
South Korea's first gold!  Choi Min Ho in Men's Judo 60kg.
 
Past 4-5 Olympics, South Korea's goal has been 10, 10 and Japan;  10 Golds, 10th place and beat Japan in overall.  Taking one away from the Japan's gold mine is great start!


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Posted By: Justinian
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 05:19

South Korea should certainly be pleased with their performance in the 400m freestyle.



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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 05:59
Originally posted by Justinian

South Korea should certainly be pleased with their performance in the 400m freestyle.

 
Oh, yeah!CheersClap
 
Mens%20400m%20Freestyle:%20Park%20takes%20Gold,%20and%20sets%20Asian%20Record
Park, Zhang and Jensen on the podium. (Photo credit: Xinhua)
 
I think the Koreans were relieved when Phelp decided not to compete in the 400m freestyle.    It would have been more interesting.   Park is only 18, so he's got still least one if not two more Olympics in him.   I wonder if he can get better in other style or distances like Phelps.  Obviously he's better at longer distance.  I think he will compete 200m too but i don't think he can really challenge Phelps in shorter distances, least not yet.  He might still get a bronze maybe.  I believe this one is their first gold in both Swimming and T & F combined, the two boiggest medal mines in  Olympics.   They are usually better at team sports or fighting sports.  They dominate in Archery too but then again that's also fight/battle related sport. 
 
Phelps was very impressive in 400m medley.  I thought he would get behind on the breast stroke part but he held his own and then blew the competition out of the water(no pun intended) in the freestyle finish.  His turns are so powerful.  I think he can cut down almost a full second every time he turns, well maybe not that much.....   I liked that world record imaginary blue line following them on the screen.  So much better idea than what they tried to do with NHL puck tracer thing.


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Posted By: Dolphin
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 11:43
Phelps, is he actually a God? Many times I have pondered this.

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Posted By: babyblue
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 18:12
Soldiers raised the olympic flag during the Sydney Olympics and the Nagano Winter Olympics too. Maybe people are less sensitive to them because they didn't goosestep and they're not Chinese.


Posted By: Władysław Warnencz
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 18:26
Originally posted by babyblue

Soldiers raised the olympic flag during the Sydney Olympics and the Nagano Winter Olympics too. Maybe people are less sensitive to them because they didn't goosestep and they're not Chinese.
 
Or because they didn't murder innocent tibetians...


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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 18:26
Not goosestepping is I think the important point. Goosestepping is indissolubly linked in most people's minds with the Nazis, though I grant that it has been a feature in other armies both before the Nazis and since.
 
Mond you it would also be a good idea to keep the military out of it. In Britain anyway we used to have 'tattoos' (do they still?) at which the military could show off their skills. But. like politics, it shouldn't get mixed up with sport.
 
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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 18:29
I don't see this Olympics as the one that is hosted by a totalitarian regime or a communist regime or whatever.  I can only see it as the one that is hosted by the Chinese people, the people with long and proud history and the people that rising back to their own history after a couple of centuries of struggling with the colonialism.  And I think they have done a spectacular job preparing for this coming out party.   I am proud of them.
 
 


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Posted By: Władysław Warnencz
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 19:14
Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

I don't see this Olympics as the one that is hosted by a totalitarian regime or a communist regime or whatever.  I can only see it as the one that is hosted by the Chinese people, the people with long and proud history and the people that rising back to their own history after a couple of centuries of struggling with the colonialism.  And I think they have done a spectacular job preparing for this coming out party.   I am proud of them.
 
 
 
You forgot to mention the people who commited the biggest genocide in history and against their won nation killing millions after China became totalitarian.The world hasn't seen such huge scale genocide as the chinese showed us....Are you proud with that?


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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 19:33
Originally posted by Władysław Warnencz

Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

I don't see this Olympics as the one that is hosted by a totalitarian regime or a communist regime or whatever.  I can only see it as the one that is hosted by the Chinese people, the people with long and proud history and the people that rising back to their own history after a couple of centuries of struggling with the colonialism.  And I think they have done a spectacular job preparing for this coming out party.   I am proud of them.
 
 
 
You forgot to mention the people who commited the biggest genocide in history and against their won nation killing millions after China became totalitarian.The world hasn't seen such huge scale genocide as the chinese showed us....Are you proud with that?


I think the biggest genocide in history was the systematic extermination of native Americans by the European Christian fanatics.  75 million.


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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 20:12
No Olympic Games is hosted by a country or by a people. At least that's the theory and the original intent, even if nationalist hijackers have spun it into something else.
 
It also should simply be a games between athletes not national teams, but I doubt there's any hope now for restoring de Coubertin's ideals.
 
The Olympic Games is hosted by a city and the people of that city.


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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 20:12


Originally posted by gcle2003

No Olympic Games is hosted by a country or by a people. At least that's the theory and the original intent, even if nationalist hijackers have spun it into something else.
 
It also should simply be a games between athletes not national teams, but I doubt there's any hope now for restoring de Coubertin's ideals.
 
The Olympic Games is hosted by a city and the people of that city.


Unfortunately nationalism has hijacked the whole idea, and it's much worse this year. There is little hope of getting rid og the national medal standings now, unless IOC does something drastic like removing national teams altogether,  but that would be a logistical nightmare I guess.

Originally posted by Zagros



I think the biggest genocide in history was the systematic extermination of native Americans by the European Christian fanatics.  75 million.

This is utterly ridiculous, and I'm sure you know it. However no genocide, imagined or real,  belong in this thread. I regret I made a post leading this way, but how about just quitting and concentrating on the Games instead?


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 21:09
Originally posted by Władysław Warnencz

Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

I don't see this Olympics as the one that is hosted by a totalitarian regime or a communist regime or whatever.  I can only see it as the one that is hosted by the Chinese people, the people with long and proud history and the people that rising back to their own history after a couple of centuries of struggling with the colonialism.  And I think they have done a spectacular job preparing for this coming out party.   I am proud of them.
 
 
 
You forgot to mention the people who commited the biggest genocide in history and against their won nation killing millions after China became totalitarian.The world hasn't seen such huge scale genocide as the chinese showed us....Are you proud with that?
I can tell you this much.  The totalitarian regime that organized 1988 Seoul Olympics wasn't much better the current Chinese regime if not worse, only in smaller scale. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangju_Massacre - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangju_Massacre  
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy73bZBqEVI&feature=related - http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy73bZBqEVI&feature=related
They used the Olympics to distract and hide the ugly truth of South Korean democracy or lack of it   There was absolutely no way South Korea could have won the right to host the 1988 Olympics. When they earn that right in 1981, South Korea was still a sweatshop nation crippled by Oil Shocks and its democracy in shamble.   But the West had no problem giving the dictator what he wanted because in the big picture, he was just a low-middle management of the Capitalist system. 
 
But no matter how they got it, once they had to do it, they worked their a$$ off to host a Olympics they can be proud of.  And I am proud of that Olympics.  I am still moved by the fact that the Cold war foes mat again in that Olympics after boycotts of 1980 Moscow and 1984 L.A.  I am proud of the Korean people who worked so hard to be the good hosts, fighting through poverty and oppression and all.  And no, I am not proud of the totalitarian regime made us go through all that.     Does that make sense?
 
Dictators come and go.  But the pride of the people runs deeper than what they have to endure on the surface.    Someday China won't be so Communist or totalitarian, they won't care which regime hosted this Olympics.    China had many dynasties of different origins and affects in its long history.  But this is their first Olympics and after long period of being closed to the rest of the world, this is their first coming out party.  If you really care about the well being of the Chinese people, perhaps you can be proud of them too instead of giving them a party to throw and go 'Pooh.Pooh' on the every corner.  Being proud of the Chinese for preparing for this Olympics does not mean that you support everything the Chinese government does.  I swear, if that's what you are afraid of.
 
And guess what? 4 years after 1988 Olympics, South Korea elected a civilian president with civil rights leader background.  See what happens when you open yourself the world more?  


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2008 at 21:28
Archer%20Day%202%20Review:%20ROK%20women%20take%206th%20Olympic%20gold
ROK team sporting their gold. (Photo credit: Stu Forster/Getty Images)
 
Another Gold for Korea!   Yeah, the daughters of Dongyi, the Eastern Bowmen!   You don't ever have to tell these girls to 'concentrate and focus'.   The third Gold already for Korea.  They are only behind host China's 6 so far.   Good start!


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 01:57
Rank NOC Name Men Women Open/Mixed Total Rank by Total
G S B T G S B T G S B T G S B T
1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_T.shtml">ChinaCHN - China 2 1 3 4 1 5 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_G.shtml - 6 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_S.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_T.shtml - 8 =1
2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_T.shtml">KoreaKOR - Korea 2 1 3 1 1 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_G.shtml - 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_S.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_T.shtml - 5 3
3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_T.shtml">United%20StatesUSA - United States 1 2 3 1 2 2 5 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_G.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_S.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_B.shtml - 4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_T.shtml - 8 =1
4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CZE_T.shtml">Czech%20RepublicCZE - Czech Republic 1 1 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CZE_G.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CZE_T.shtml - 2 =9
5 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_T.shtml">ItalyITA - Italy 1 2 3 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_S.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_T.shtml - 4 =4
6 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_T.shtml">JapanJPN - Japan 1 1 2 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_B.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_T.shtml - 3 =6
7 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_T.shtml">AustraliaAUS - Australia 1 1 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_T.shtml - 2 =9
7 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ESP_T.shtml">SpainESP - Spain 1 1 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ESP_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ESP_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ESP_T.shtml - 2 =9
7 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_T.shtml">NetherlandsNED - Netherlands 1 1 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_T.shtml - 2 =9
10 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GBR_T.shtml">Great%20BritainGBR - Great Britain 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GBR_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GBR_T.shtml - 1 =14
10 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ROU_T.shtml">RomaniaROU - Romania 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ROU_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ROU_T.shtml - 1 =14
10 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/THA_T.shtml">ThailandTHA - Thailand 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/THA_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/THA_T.shtml - 1 =14
13 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_T.shtml">Russian%20Fed.RUS - Russian Fed. 1 1 3 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_S.shtml - 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_T.shtml - 4 =4
14 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FRA_T.shtml">FranceFRA - France 2 2 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FRA_S.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FRA_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FRA_T.shtml - 3 =6
15 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_T.shtml">DPR%20KoreaPRK - DPR Korea 2 2 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_B.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_T.shtml - 3 =6
16 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CUB_T.shtml">CubaCUB - Cuba 1 1 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CUB_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CUB_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CUB_T.shtml - 2 =9
17 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUT_T.shtml">AustriaAUT - Austria 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUT_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUT_T.shtml - 1 =14
17 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/HUN_T.shtml">HungaryHUN - Hungary 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/HUN_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/HUN_T.shtml - 1 =14
17 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/SWE_T.shtml">SwedenSWE - Sweden 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/SWE_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/SWE_T.shtml - 1 =14
17 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/TUR_T.shtml">TurkeyTUR - Turkey 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/TUR_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/TUR_T.shtml - 1 =14
17 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/VIE_T.shtml">VietnamVIE - Vietnam 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/VIE_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/VIE_T.shtml - 1 =14
17 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ZIM_T.shtml">ZimbabweZIM - Zimbabwe 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ZIM_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ZIM_T.shtml - 1 =14
 
 
 
Current overall  standing.    I know theOlympic spirit isn't about medal counts or winning or losing for that matter.  And all these athletes are winners just for being there because most of them least a national champion of their own countries.   But who am I kidding?  Of course the madal counts matter, especially when the Koreans are in the second place.CheersClapThumbs%20Up
 
But unfortunately even I can't expect them to stay up there too long though.  Once more medals from Track & Field, Swimming, Gymnastics etc starts to roll in Koreans will slide, hopefully not too far.   Good to see North Koreans up there.  Someday they will count those medals combined.  Godd to see Thailand and Vietnam from SE Asia also.  And Zimbabwe!  Has any Afrian nation 3ever finished in top 20 in Olympics medal counts?  Some afre excellent at long distant running for sure.  But just like World Cup Football, they will get better with each tournaments. 
 
Once again it's still way too early for paying attention to the medal counts, but I had to while Korea is in the second place. EmbarrassedCheers    


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Posted By: raygun
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 03:20
China did awesome, one of a kind show that highlights the depth and richness of her history, and tastefully done as well. Well done China! Cheers


Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 03:33
Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

Originally posted by Justinian

South Korea should certainly be pleased with their performance in the 400m freestyle.

 
Oh, yeah!CheersClap
 
Mens%20400m%20Freestyle:%20Park%20takes%20Gold,%20and%20sets%20Asian%20Record
Park, Zhang and Jensen on the podium. (Photo credit: Xinhua)
 
I think the Koreans were relieved when Phelp decided not to compete in the 400m freestyle.    It would have been more interesting.   Park is only 18, so he's got still least one if not two more Olympics in him.   I wonder if he can get better in other style or distances like Phelps.  Obviously he's better at longer distance.  I think he will compete 200m too but i don't think he can really challenge Phelps in shorter distances, least not yet.  He might still get a bronze maybe.  I believe this one is their first gold in both Swimming and T & F combined, the two boiggest medal mines in  Olympics.   They are usually better at team sports or fighting sports.  They dominate in Archery too but then again that's also fight/battle related sport. 
 
Phelps was very impressive in 400m medley.  I thought he would get behind on the breast stroke part but he held his own and then blew the competition out of the water(no pun intended) in the freestyle finish.  His turns are so powerful.  I think he can cut down almost a full second every time he turns, well maybe not that much.....   I liked that world record imaginary blue line following them on the screen.  So much better idea than what they tried to do with NHL puck tracer thing.
 
I didn't see this coming. It was cool to see him win. The Korean commentor was cheering madly rather than commenting on the game... that was kinda hilariousLOL


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Posted By: Kaysaar
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 04:18
Did anybody catch the 17 year old kid who crushed everyone on the way to gold in the 56kg weight lifting class? I can't remember his name but he powered China to gold handily, and didn't even seem to break a sweat until he tried to smash his own juniors world record, when he dropped it. But this kid had great poise and presence, and looked like he knew he was going to win the gold before he even did his first lift - it was incredible.

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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 05:01
Incredible finish at the Swimming 400m freestyle relay.  The French were talking mad trash before the match like they were gonna 'smash' the Americans.  Incredible race.  U.S. took the lead after Phelps obviously but the French took the lead and starting to run away I mean swim away with it and I think they had the lead up to maybe last 10-12 m or so, and it literally came down to the last stretch for the wall.  Both team shattered the world record.  This keeps Phelps' 8 golds dream alive.  Incredible.
 
Japan also won a gold in Swimming today in men's 100m breaststroke.  Of course, every time a Korean does something Japan gotta match it, or is it the other way around.  I never thought I would say this but in the spirit of Olympics, congrats to Japan!  CheersHugYing%20Yang
 
 


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Posted By: Donasin
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 05:30
The US women's fencing won bronze, silver, and gold!

Way to go ladies!

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-olyfencing10-2008aug10,0,1217769.story


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 05:55
Originally posted by Donasin

The US women's fencing won bronze, silver, and gold!

Way to go ladies!

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-olyfencing10-2008aug10,0,1217769.story
 
Yeah, I saw their interview afterward.  Didn't they do the same thing last Olympics too.  Either way a total domination.  Those girls are all smart girls too. 
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Posted By: Justinian
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 06:13
Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

Incredible finish at the Swimming 400m freestyle relay.  The French were talking mad trash before the match like they were gonna 'smash' the Americans.  Incredible race.  U.S. took the lead after Phelps obviously but the French took the lead and starting to run away I mean swim away with it and I think they had the lead up to maybe last 10-12 m or so, and it literally came down to the last stretch for the wall.  Both team shattered the world record.  This keeps Phelps' 8 golds dream alive.  Incredible.
 
Japan also won a gold in Swimming today in men's 100m breaststroke.  Of course, every time a Korean does something Japan gotta match it, or is it the other way around.  I never thought I would say this but in the spirit of Olympics, congrats to Japan!  CheersHugYing%20Yang
 
 
Oh...my...god.  That 4x100 relay was incredible.  Lezak was just out of this world, without his performance the french beat us, no question.  US sets a new record by nearly 4 seconds.Shocked  That was an amazing race; the 5th place team was Sweden, and they came under the old record too!  Over half the field finished below the old record time.  That was exciting stuff.  How high will Phelps go...
 
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Posted By: Darius of Parsa
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 06:38
That was UNBELEIVABLE!

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Posted By: Al Jassas
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 09:48
Boy, those Korean archers are phenomenal! I sure want them to be in my model medieval army.
 
Al-Jassas


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 16:02
Originally posted by Al Jassas

Boy, those Korean archers are phenomenal! I sure want them to be in my model medieval army.
 
Al-Jassas
 
Thanks, Al-Jassas!  
ROK%20men%20set%20Olympic%20record%20en%20route%20to%20fourth%20Team%20gold
 
 
The Korean men are not as dominant as the women but they did well enough set the new Olympic record.   Korean women?  Not only they won every golds last Olympics, they hold the world records in every distance.  A total domination.  
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=ZspYCQH5B18 - http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=ZspYCQH5B18


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Posted By: Ponce de Leon
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 16:27
Man i missed the archery? Thats a bummer


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 16:43
Originally posted by Ponce de Leon

Man i missed the archery? Thats a bummer
 
Don't worry, Ponce.  They only played team competitions so far.  Individual competitions will start today.  I don't know about the U.S TV coverage though.  I'm hoping the Korean girls to sweep all three medals just like the U.S. women's fencing team.


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Posted By: Gundamor
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 16:56
Originally posted by Justinian

 
 
I liked the sportsmanship during the medal ceremony, Phelps just makes it easier and easier to root for him.


Its hard to cheer for him knowing he gets a million dollars as an incentive if he wins 8 golds. He can have 7 but I hope some no name, low profile country, swimmer beats him in one. In fact the amount of money the U.S. and especially the Chinese dump into their athletics really ruins the Olympic spirit for me. The greatest joy in the Olympics is to see the unknown man or women win against all odds. The way business is run at the Olympics nowadays those acts will occur less and less.

I find myself cheering for the underdog more then ever in these Olympics. Preferably ones that aren't doped up or have been bred into their sport since the age of 5.




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Posted By: Al Jassas
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 17:08

Heelo king kang

Well to be honest, the Italians were quite good, commiserations Leo, had it not been for the last archer's mistake they would have actually won. i didn't see the women but I am not surprised if they are as good as the men.

Al-Jassas


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 18:02
Originally posted by Al Jassas

Heelo king kang

Well to be honest, the Italians were quite good, commiserations Leo, had it not been for the last archer's mistake they would have actually won. i didn't see the women but I am not surprised if they are as good as the men.

Al-Jassas
 
You are right Al Jassas.  Like I said in the previous post the Korean men are not as dominant as the Korean women.  But collectively they were good enough to win the Gold.  But in individual the Koreans will have harder time against China, U.S., Austrailia and Italy.
 
Here is the total medal counts in Olympic Archery since 1972 Munish when Archery is reintroduced to Olymics and standardized.
 
 Rank  Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_South_Korea.svg">South%20Korea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_at_the_Olympics - South Korea 15 7 4 26
2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg">United%20States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_at_the_Olympics - United States 8 3 2 13
3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg">Soviet%20Union http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_at_the_Olympics - Soviet Union 1 3 3 7
4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg">Italy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_at_the_Olympics - Italy 1 1 3 5
5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Finland.svg">Finland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland_at_the_Olympics - Finland 1 1 2 4
6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Australia.svg">Australia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_at_the_Olympics - Australia 1 0 1 2
7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_France.svg">France http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_at_the_Olympics - France 1 0 0 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg">Spain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_at_the_Olympics - Spain 1 0 0 1
9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Peoples_Republic_of_China.svg">China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_at_the_Olympics - China 0 4 0 4
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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 18:09

Iran will start tomorrow, the Iranian sport is wrestling.



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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 18:15
I have to say I don't remember Britain doing this well so early. At least the swimming shows we don't only win things that you do sitting down.

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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 18:24
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

Iran will start tomorrow, the Iranian sport is wrestling.

 
I wish them the best, Cyrus!   Just for you, I'll cheer for them if I get to see them play.  it looks like they do well in Weightlifting and Taekwondo, also.  Well, I can't cheer for Iran if they are going against the Koreans in Taekwondo, but other than that......


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 18:31
Originally posted by gcle2003

I have to say I don't remember Britain doing this well so early. At least the swimming shows we don't only win things that you do sitting down.
 
What 'sitting down' sports Britain's good at?  Just curious.....   Rowing?  Shooting?  Don't they have some shooting events they are sitting down?   Cycling could be a sitting down sport I suppose.  In that case Equestrian too.  I can see Britain being good at all of the above actually.  


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Posted By: Al Jassas
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 18:43
Ah Gholamreza Takhti! hasn't there been any successor for that great guy in Iran?
 
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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 20:02
Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

Originally posted by gcle2003

I have to say I don't remember Britain doing this well so early. At least the swimming shows we don't only win things that you do sitting down.
 
What 'sitting down' sports Britain's good at?  Just curious.....   Rowing?  Shooting?  Don't they have some shooting events they are sitting down?   Cycling could be a sitting down sport I suppose.  In that case Equestrian too.  I can see Britain being good at all of the above actually.  
The one you're overlooking is yachting, which is also a British strength (IIRC we were the best yachting country at Athens). I seem to remember it was a German who jibed (with some reason) that the British could only win sitting down.


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 22:41
Originally posted by gcle2003

 
The one you're overlooking is yachting, which is also a British strength (IIRC we were the best yachting country at Athens). I seem to remember it was a German who jibed (with some reason) that the British could only win sitting down.
 
How couldI have listd Rowing and not think of Yachting?  I don't know.   But it sems like that German guy is on to something here, hah?
 
Here are some top British medal mines
Sport Gold Silver Bronze Total
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Athletics 48 76 60 184
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowing_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Rowing 22 18 8 48
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Sailing 20 13 10 43
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Tennis 15 13 12 40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimming_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Swimming 13 20 26 59
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Boxing 13 11 21 45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Shooting 12 15 16 43
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Cycling 10 20 19 49
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Equestrian 6 9 10 25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_skating_at_the_Olympic_Games - Figure skating 5 3 7 15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_polo_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Water polo 4 0 0 4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Wrestling 3 4 10 17
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Field hockey 3 2 5 10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Football 3 0 0 3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polo_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Polo 2 3 1 6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archery_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Archery 2 2 5 9
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rackets_at_the_1908_Summer_Olympics - Rackets 2 2 3 7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tug_of_war_at_the_Summer_Olympics - Tug of war 2 2 1 5
 
 
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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 02:37
Azerbaijan won its first Gold in Olympics!  Congrats to Azerbaijan!Thumbs%20UpCheersClap
 
It actually came in expense of the Koreans but still the first Gold for a nation is something special.   I bet this guy will never have to pay for drinks at bars rest of his life!  Or cab fares, dry cleaning, barbershop, ahh the amenities of being a national hero for the rest your life!
 
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(L-R) Kichun Wang, Elnur Mammadli, Rasul Boqiev and Leandro Guilheiro (Photo credit: Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)

The Men's 73kg Judo event was held at the University of Science and Technology Beijing Gymnasium on day three of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on August 11, 2008, in Beijing, China. Elnur Mammadli of Azerbaijan beat Wang Kichun of the Republic of Korea by ippon to take the gold medal. The bronze medal was shared by Rasul Boqiev of Tajikistan and Leandro Guilheiro of Brazil. http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/headlines/judo/n214530036.shtml - http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/headlines/judo/n214530036.shtml   

 
  
 
 


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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 07:14

In men's Greco-Roman 55kg, the Russian wrestler Nazyr Manikiev defeated Hamid Soryan, the winner of gold medal at the last three world championships! Cry

 wish them the best, Cyrus!   Just for you, I'll cheer for them if I get to see them play.  it looks like they do well in Weightlifting and Taekwondo, also.  Well, I can't cheer for Iran if they are going against the Koreans in Taekwondo, but other than that......
It seems this Olympics is not good for Iran, we hoped in Judo, no Medal yet!!
 
Ah Gholamreza Takhti! hasn't there been any successor for that great guy in Iran?
Some Iranian wrestlers have worked better than him but he is the most famous one.


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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 13:57
Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

Originally posted by gcle2003

 
The one you're overlooking is yachting, which is also a British strength (IIRC we were the best yachting country at Athens). I seem to remember it was a German who jibed (with some reason) that the British could only win sitting down.
 
How couldI have listd Rowing and not think of Yachting?  I don't know.   But it sems like that German guy is on to something here, hah?
 
 
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Posted By: beorna
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 17:14
Originally posted by Justinian

Oh...my...god.  That 4x100 relay was incredible.  Lezak was just out of this world, without his performance the french beat us, no question.  US sets a new record by nearly 4 seconds.Shocked  That was an amazing race; the 5th place team was Sweden, and they came under the old record too!  Over half the field finished below the old record time.  That was exciting stuff.  How high will Phelps go...
 
I liked the sportsmanship during the medal ceremony, Phelps just makes it easier and easier to root for him.
 
Yes, incredible, unbelievable....they've blown the old records away, they left the even those doping records from the GDR and the Soviet Union from the 70th and 80th far behind them and that OF COURSE without any doping. This games show again, perhaps more than ever NO DOPE, NO HOPE. Sorry for it, I am a sport fanatic too. But how can I cheer to athletes nowadays? 


Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 17:54
a historical event happened today
 
The Icelandic handball-team defeated the actual World Champion Germany by 33 : 29.
 
Go for Gold Iceland.......


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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 18:11
"Unpossible"!
 
Not so impossible considering that Icelanders have plenty of practice throwing snowballs at eachother. Good sport actually. Would like to see more coverage of it at night. Ok UvH. Go Iceland!
 


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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 18:23
All the while Turkey is falling flat in every event it's in except for the occasional tiny tot chick lifting a heavy load for silver.
 
Badminton is fun to watch. It's like a messed up version of tennis meets volleyball. Slow enough for dinks and fast enough for spiking.
 
Fencing looks cool. You blink you get poked and some colorful lights go off showing that you got nicked in the process. They do it till someone reaches 15 or is it 21?
 
Swimming is intense. Cali girl Caughlin beat her Kangaroo nemesis in the 100m backstroke. Phelps is going to pass Spitz. Another huge Aussie chick looks tough to beat (don't know her name but huge Aussie chick does her justice).
 
Basketball. Need more of that. US-Angola. Really? Do we have to? Oh, alright. Kobe get yourself a cola and sit down. Labron have an eggroll as we watch Tayshun and the 2n'd stingers put on the hits. US 97 (while taking it easy) -Angola 76.
 
Them US boys on the mats did some fine gymnastics. Earned them a bronze. Not bad.
 
Then there's tennis queens Venus and Serena. The unstoppable Williams sisters.
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 20:11
but.....
 
Germany won 4 Gold medals today........
 
Kayaking, Judo and in something of horse riding or like that......


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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2008 at 22:29
Indeed it was great day for both U.S. and Germany.  Phelps got closer to his 8 gold dream.  Korean phenom Park Tae Hwan took the silver.  Now I'm really wondering what if Phelps competed in 400m freestyle. 
 
Congrats to Ulrich for the Icelandic Handball team! Cheers Is this only time you were cheering against Germany?   I enjoy watching Handball myself.  It's got different elements of Basketball, Football and Hockey. 
 
Just wondering, if Field Hockey in the Olympics, Cricket should too?   Or if baseball is in Cricket should too?  Either way I think Cricket should be in.  May be Rugby too.
 
The Chinese gymnasts were pretty impressive.  The Americans did well like Seko said especially considering they were missing their best gymnast.
 
Russian wrestlers and Austrailian female swimmers got their Olymipcs campaign a big lift.
 
Oh! North Korean Pak Hyon Suk won a gold for women's weightlifting.  i'm sure kim Jung Il will make a movie about her now.  Maybe Victoria Beckham playing her? 
 
Swimming lifted U.S. ahead of South Korea in medal counts as expected.  Strong serges from Germany, Russia, Austrailia etc are expected.
 
  
Rank NOC Name Men Women Open/Mixed Total Rank by Total
G S B T G S B T G S B T G S B T
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3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_T.shtml">KoreaKOR - Korea 4 4 1 9 1 2 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_G.shtml - 5 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_S.shtml - 6 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_T.shtml - 12 3
4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GER_T.shtml">GermanyGER - Germany 2 1 3 1 1 2 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GER_G.shtml - 4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GER_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GER_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GER_T.shtml - 6 =9
5 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_T.shtml">ItalyITA - Italy 1 4 5 2 2 4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_G.shtml - 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_S.shtml - 4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_B.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ITA_T.shtml - 9 =5
6 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_T.shtml">AustraliaAUS - Australia 3 3 3 1 2 6 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_G.shtml - 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_S.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_B.shtml - 5 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AUS_T.shtml - 10 4
7 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_T.shtml">JapanJPN - Japan 2 1 3 1 2 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_G.shtml - 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_B.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/JPN_T.shtml - 6 =9
8 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_T.shtml">Russian%20Fed.RUS - Russian Fed. 2 3 5 4 4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_G.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_S.shtml - 4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_B.shtml - 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/RUS_T.shtml - 9 =5
9 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GBR_T.shtml">Great%20BritainGBR - Great Britain 1 1 2 1 3 2 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GBR_G.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GBR_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GBR_B.shtml - 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GBR_T.shtml - 6 =9
10 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CZE_T.shtml">Czech%20RepublicCZE - Czech Republic 1 1 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CZE_G.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CZE_T.shtml - 2 =15
11 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_T.shtml">DPR%20KoreaPRK - DPR Korea 1 2 3 1 1 2 4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_S.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_B.shtml - 4 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/PRK_T.shtml - 7 8
12 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AZE_T.shtml">AzerbaijanAZE - Azerbaijan 1 2 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AZE_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AZE_S.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/AZE_T.shtml - 3 =13
13 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_T.shtml">NetherlandsNED - Netherlands 1 1 1 1 1 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_B.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/NED_T.shtml - 4 12
14 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/SVK_T.shtml">SlovakiaSVK - Slovakia 1 1 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/SVK_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/SVK_S.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/SVK_T.shtml - 2 =15
15 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ESP_T.shtml">SpainESP - Spain 1 1 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ESP_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ESP_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ESP_T.shtml - 2 =15
15 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FIN_T.shtml">FinlandFIN - Finland 1 1 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FIN_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FIN_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FIN_T.shtml - 2 =15
15 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ROU_T.shtml">RomaniaROU - Romania 1 1 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ROU_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ROU_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/ROU_T.shtml - 2 =15
18 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/IND_T.shtml">IndiaIND - India 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/IND_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/IND_T.shtml - 1 =27
18 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/THA_T.shtml">ThailandTHA - Thailand 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/THA_G.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/THA_T.shtml - 1 =27
20 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FRA_T.shtml">FranceFRA - France 6 1 7 1 1 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FRA_S.shtml - 7 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FRA_B.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/FRA_T.shtml - 9 =5
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Posted By: Roberts
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 00:45
I admit that the fireworks at the opening ceremony for the Beijing Olympics were impressive, and hard to top...

...but just you wait and see what Al-Qaeda have got lined up for London in 2012.
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Posted By: Gundamor
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 03:55
Originally posted by Roberts

I admit that the fireworks at the opening ceremony for the Beijing Olympics were impressive, and hard to top...

...but just you wait and see what Al-Qaeda have got lined up for London in 2012.
j/kSmile


I'm sure the Brits will be able to CGI in some fireworks just as well as the Chinese apparently did. Clap
Maybe even snag a cute 7 year old as well to lip sync.

Whats up with medal standings. France has 9 medals and is 20th. Behind teams with 1. Even in a point system one gold would not equate to 9 medals.

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Posted By: Justinian
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 05:34
^^Yes its crazy the amount of records being broken, especially when its by five seconds.  That in mind Phelps just keeps winning.

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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 17:46
At the end of day five...the Top Ten
 
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G S B T G S B T G S B T G S B T
1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_T.shtml">ChinaCHN - China 8 4 3 15 9 1 2 12 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_G.shtml - 17 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_S.shtml - 5 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_B.shtml - 5 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_T.shtml - 27 2
2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_T.shtml">United%20StatesUSA - United States 7 1 5 13 3 6 6 15 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_G.shtml - 10 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_S.shtml - 8 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_B.shtml - 11 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/USA_T.shtml - 29 1
3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_T.shtml">KoreaKOR - Korea 5 4 1 10 1 2 3 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_G.shtml - 6 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_S.shtml - 6 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/KOR_T.shtml - 13 3
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10 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GEO_T.shtml">GeorgiaGEO - Georgia 2 2 1 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GEO_G.shtml - 2 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GEO_B.shtml - 1 http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/GEO_T.shtml - 3 =16


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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 17:53
Wow! American ladies at softball. Intense pitching, awsome hitting and a rather nice display of feminine physique (except for the chub-a-dub power hitting transgender hopefuls).
 
What is with womens' Gymnastics? 10 year old Chinese girls, American blunders and Russia nowhere to be found. The American girls did well in some and choked big time on the floor excersize. Sure, a couple of injuries prior but still! Who can deny the winning tradition of the communist system? Gold medal machinery at it's finest.
 
...more Phelps medals...(yawn). Spitz should have been invited to transfer his mojo in person. Blame the IOC or China for that.


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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 17:57

What the Icelandic press wrote:

Iceland Beats World Champion in Handball at Olympics

The Icelandic men’s handball team beat Germany, the current world champion, 33-29 at the Beijing Olympics yesterday. The Icelandic handball team now has four points in qualifying group B and is the only team in that group without a loss.

“This victory is a positive sign of us being a good team,” captain Ólafur Stefánsson told reporters after the game, Morgunbladid reports.

“It was an amazing victory because it is not every day that we beat the world champion at the Olympics. It doesn’t get much sweeter than this,” Iceland’s coach Gudmundur Gudmundsson told Fréttabladid.

“I am very satisfied with how we played and except for the beginning, everything worked out as planned. The fight went great, we were aggressive and they couldn’t handle it,” Gudmundsson said.

Iceland will play against South Korea tomorrow, the Asian handball champion. South Korea beat Denmark, the European champion, yesterday.



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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 17:59
Go Ulrich!
 
Go King Kang!
 
I place my bets on ______!


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Posted By: Gundamor
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 18:11
Originally posted by Seko

Wow! American ladies at softball. Intense pitching, awsome hitting and a rather nice display of feminine physique (except for the chub-a-dub power hitting transgender hopefuls).
 
What is with womens' Gymnastics? 10 year old Chinese girls, American blunders and Russia nowhere to be found. The American girls did well in some and choked big time on the floor excersize. Sure, a couple of injuries prior but still! Who can deny the winning tradition of the communist system? Gold medal machinery at it's finest.
 



I'm sure having Jennie Finch helps out fan support for softball.Embarrassed

Despite all the age gossip, the bottom line on the gymnast team is they tanked when it mattered. They were capable of winning for sure. The podium pictures are somewhat funny though. Someone mentioned that they looked like the offensive line for the 49ers compared to their gold medal counterparts.LOL




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Posted By: Al Jassas
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008 at 18:59
super Phelps does it again!
 
too bad thorpe didn't participate or else he might have made a couple of medals.
 
Al-Jassas


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2008 at 07:44
Originally posted by Seko

Go Ulrich!
 
Go King Kang!
 
I place my bets on ______!
What happened?  I was entertaining a lady friend. Did they play it yet?  It must be still a few hours from now hah?  I will bet on aaahhhh Iceland.  I don't wanna jinx the Koreans like I did to a few teams(mostly France) in the Euro 08.  Second I can be happy for Ulrich if Iceland win and I picked the winner.   If Korea wins I can act like it was a sweet surprise.Wink Last but the most important, the humility will bring me good mojo for the Koreans. 
 
Looks like Iceland already beat Russia and Germany, Korea has beaten Denmark but lost Germany.  So there you go, I have a good reason to believe that humility is the best policy for now. (but once the game is over and if Korea won.....  all I'm saying is, it's time to dunk the clown in a pool of Kimchi!) ClownWink
 
 
On a more serious note,  Did anyone notice Georgia in the leader board?  Two golds in one day?  Were they expected?  I'm not trying to politicize it by bring it up. But when athletes from countries in turmoil like war or natural disaster, overachieve when the world is watching, it's kinda cool no matter which country.  Like Iraq winning AFC championship last year.         


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Posted By: beorna
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2008 at 08:33
Sorry guys, when I disturb your Phelpsomania. These flood of records, loughable. What's the reason. The wonderdress? So why Phelps is swimming without it? The dolphin swimming during the start phase and the turns? The others practice it as well. So what's his real secret, a special and unknown kind of EPO or does he already practice genetic doping? If Phelps would be a Chinese swimmer or a White Russian everybody would expect him to take doping. But Western athletes don't do this, it's of course the spirit of the free world that gives them wings to go for goldWink.


Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2008 at 09:06
Originally posted by beorna

Sorry guys, when I disturb your Phelpsomania. These flood of records, loughable. What's the reason. The wonderdress? So why Phelps is swimming without it? The dolphin swimming during the start phase and the turns? The others practice it as well. So what's his real secret, a special and unknown kind of EPO or does he already practice genetic doping? If Phelps would be a Chinese swimmer or a White Russian everybody would expect him to take doping. But Western athletes don't do this, it's of course the spirit of the free world that gives them wings to go for goldWink.

Doping is not a Western/Eastern thing; some countries have a history of doping, some don't, but geographically they are quite evenly spread. Wink





Posted By: beorna
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2008 at 09:48
Doping was very professional used in the former communist block. If we look at the results of especially the Russians, the Germans from GDR and the Romanians there can't be a doubt and especially in GDR we know the doping practice very detailed. When I was a little boy I added the GDR results and the FRG results together. We were the best....but now I know perhaps each GDR medall was a result of doping and I can't say how many of the FRG medalls were it too. But usually we say, perhaps only in Germany, I don't know: the East is doping, we not. But I agree with you, some countries have a doping history, some not. My doctor allways says, health is an unknown desease. So countries with no doping history are perhaps just countries were doping hunters weren't successful till now. I am convinced that there are sport disciplines were doping is common and others were it is not. Swimming, athletics, weight lifting, cycling and a lot more are doping disciplines for sure. The USA are the top nation in some of it, Marion Jones, Kelly White e.g or think of the female top US-swimmer, I forgot her name, who was tested positive.


Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2008 at 09:58
Originally posted by beorna

Doping was very professional used in the former communist block. If we look at the results of especially the Russians, the Germans from GDR and the Romanians there can't be a doubt and especially in GDR we know the doping practice very detailed. When I was a little boy I added the GDR results and the FRG results together. We were the best....but now I know perhaps each GDR medall was a result of doping and I can't say how many of the FRG medalls were it too. But usually we say, perhaps only in Germany, I don't know: the East is doping, we not. But I agree with you, some countries have a doping history, some not. My doctor allways says, health is an unknown desease. So countries with no doping history are perhaps just countries were doping hunters weren't successful till now. I am convinced that there are sport disciplines were doping is common and others were it is not. Swimming, athletics, weight lifting, cycling and a lot more are doping disciplines for sure. The USA are the top nation in some of it, Marion Jones, Kelly White e.g or think of the female top US-swimmer, I forgot her name, who was tested positive.

I think it's alot about how doping is perceived also. We had only one big doping case, Ludmila Enquist (a Russian, former Narozhilenko) who won several gold medals for USSR and Sweden in hurdles. After she won her golds for Sweden in the 90s she was much celebrated -  she later was tested positively for doping (during her new, bobsleighing career in 2001...) and she was immidiately frozen out to the limit that she didn't dare to show herself in public and eventually she and her husband had to leave the country. I'm not sure if this reaction is common in other places also.


Posted By: beorna
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2008 at 10:13
Yes, that's right. There is a difference between countries in the way they act with doping athletes. But perhaps Ludmilla was what we call a "Bauernopfer" in German. I can't find it in my dictionary. Sorry even in my Swedish one. Now they can say: Look, the system is working! In some days we'll see some Swedish athletes in High jump and women's heptathlon. Are they clean? This is the most terrible effect of doping for me. We cannot be no longer sure that an athlete is clean. Every record, every medall we have to ask, if it was correct or not. This is sad. Wouldn't it be great if we could cheer without a doubt?



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