Poland and Ukraine host Euro 2012
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Topic: Poland and Ukraine host Euro 2012
Posted By: TheDiplomat
Subject: Poland and Ukraine host Euro 2012
Date Posted: 18-Apr-2007 at 07:37
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The two countries that I like very much are gonna host Euro2012!!!
Congrats my Polish and Ukrainian friends:)))
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6562527.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6562527.stm
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Posted By: Ovidius
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2007 at 07:27
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I can't believe this really. They are worried about Italy's Crowd trouble, What about Poland???? Poland is like the new home of hooliganism, they were threatening English fans for the World Cup. I can't imagine what Euro 2012 is going to be like fo them. Although, England probably wont qualify. They aren't going to qualify for Euro 2008 heh. |
Posted By: TheDiplomat
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2007 at 10:25
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Ovidius, football hooliganism exists anywhere in Europe, therefore you can not escape from it. I am really glad that Poland-Ukraine was given the bid. Italy has already hosted events like these, but this will be the first for these two. It will be more exciting for the peoples of these countries. Maybe the organization will not be professional as Italy as, maybe players and fans will have to travel long-distance cities during the tournament (like from Eastern Ukraine to Poland), but still it will be the first time Eastern Europe will host an event. So it will mark a new period in Eastern Europe in the sense that football will gain more ground there :) ------------- ARDA:The best Turkish diplomat ever! |
Posted By: Ovidius
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2007 at 13:02
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I just don't think, that at the moment, Poland and certainly not Ukraine, can ensure the safety of foreign citizens during such a large tournament. Their Stadiums wont be up to standard, the hooliganism in Poland is really the worst I've seen, eventhough it exists elsewhere and unless major things are done with police forces etc, I think that it will only be a disaster. Hopefully, however, by 2012 they will be able to at least sort this out partially. But time will tell. I must say I prefer Austria and Switzerland as a venue hehehe. But, obviously, it is nice to see it in Eastern Europe - I'd be happy to see Ukraine, for instance, lift its Visa restrictions. It could, over all, improve tourism for the region. |
Posted By: Jagiello
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2007 at 13:21
I understand taht polish fans are quiet a hooligans but to hear this from an english?!! Polish fans are the worst?!It's the english fans that have a worldwide fame as the worst hooligans.Maybe you have a bad expirience with polish fans but overall it's the engish ones that are the worst.About the stadium-you're right they aren't the best,especially in Ukraine,but in the cities that have been appointed as host in Poland there are really good stadiums.And with all the money that will now come from the EU(37 billion euros) will have both great stadiums and ensured safety for all tourists.
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Posted By: Ovidius
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2007 at 13:33
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Thats no actually true. English Fans are not even close to being the worst, they are the most targetted fans in the world. Football in England is fairly peaceful these days. Polish fans are not as notorious as English fans for two reasons. England is a more notorious country and news from England spread further than Polish news. Polish fans are not as big on the world stage because Polish football is not as big as English football. English hooliganism in the past 10years has been almost erradicated. Polish hooliganism is still a weekly occurance. Anti-hooliganism efforts in England are substantial and work extremely well. Most hooligans have been banned from football outside of England etc. We also have the money to put into policing such things, poland does not. http://www.polskieradio.pl/zagranica/gb/dokument.aspx?iid=48234 - http://www.polskieradio.pl/zagranica/gb/dokument.aspx?iid=48234 http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,397447,00.html - http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,397447,00.html http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/02/06/backhanders_and_bullets_as_pol.html - http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/02/06/backhanders_and_bullets_as_pol.html http://www.inter-disciplinary.net/piotrowski%20paper.pdf - http://www.inter-disciplinary.net/piotrowski%20paper.pdf intersting article from 2002 http://uk.askmen.com/video/2005_jul/jul27_polish_football.html - http://uk.askmen.com/video/2005_jul/jul27_polish_football.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/4860986.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/4860986.stm no threat, clearly. |
Posted By: New User
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2007 at 12:21
I would say that your info is about 15 years out of date! Many hooligan clubs have been wiped out in England and whilst not perfect it is mostly agreed that other European countries have inherited this nasty English custom....
Polish gangs seem to be rife (at least on English news) I apologise if this has been a case of biased media reporting but to many in England other European countries have a much more major racist/violent factor in their fans.
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Posted By: Athanasios
Date Posted: 25-Apr-2007 at 10:14
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An other thing we have to mention (i don't want to offence anyone) is that euro 2012 can easily turn into a sex tour for many "soccer-lovers". Germany, last year , andicipated and organised whole hotels for the visitor's apetites and condoms were distributed wherever it was possible. As it is known the problem of illegal prostitution and the trade of white flesh are quite intense in many areas of the Former eastern bloc. I think that they must be a prevention about this subject. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ovidius
Date Posted: 25-Apr-2007 at 11:05
| actually, as it went. The Sex trade during the World Cup was actually a Failure, not a success. |
Posted By: erci
Date Posted: 28-Apr-2007 at 22:52
They don't even have a decent stadium, yet they will host the games  ------------- "When one hears such music, what can one say, but .... Salieri?" |