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Topic: whos the best knightly order?
Posted By: white knight
Subject: whos the best knightly order?
Date Posted: 12-Mar-2007 at 06:56
for you guys what is the best knightly order? if your answer is "others" please specify. thanks. :)



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Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 12-Mar-2007 at 06:58
Favourite - Templars
Best - tough one...Templars? Hospitallers?


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Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 13-Mar-2007 at 16:38
Knight's Templar.

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Posted By: Scorpian
Date Posted: 14-Mar-2007 at 10:36
   King Arthur and the proposed Sarmation Knights of the round tableWink
       
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Posted By: Roberts
Date Posted: 14-Mar-2007 at 15:02
Teutonic Order was the most successful.


Posted By: Eondt
Date Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 03:12
Favourite would be Teutonic.
 
Best? I would give it to the Hospitallers for two reasons:
1) Malta
2) Longevity - you can still be a member of the order today.


Posted By: Ovidius
Date Posted: 15-Mar-2007 at 10:44
gotta be the Hospitallers, for their successes and logevity.

Malta and their achievements there are just brilliant.


Posted By: Praetor
Date Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 09:05
A very difficult question but I will go for Hospitallers as the "best". There succesful defence of Malta and Rhodes at multiple times in thier history and thier early distinguishment in the near east is incredibly impressive. In my opinion there are only two others worth considering in terms of military power and influence for the top spot and those are the Teutonic Knights and the Templars. The order of the Dragon isn't even the same type of order but a largely secular, honorary club for Emperor Sigismunds key allies.

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Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 09:24
Originally posted by Eondt

Favourite would be Teutonic.
 
Best? I would give it to the Hospitallers for two reasons:
1) Malta
2) Longevity - you can still be a member of the order today.


I agree for these exact same reasons, as well as their famed performance at Rhodes, enough to convince the Sultan to let them leave as honourable men.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 09:38
Templars!
 
There are no others like them.
Besides, theirs influence in hermetism is quite interesting.
 
Pinguin


Posted By: white knight
Date Posted: 19-Mar-2007 at 23:14
Originally posted by Eondt

Favourite would be Teutonic.
 
Best? I would give it to the Hospitallers for two reasons:
1) Malta
2) Longevity - you can still be a member of the order today.
 
 
so you guys don't believe that the templars are the fore fathers of the freemasons and that they invented the bank book or check.
 
or what this web site says:
http://www.ordotempli.org/history_of_the_knights_templar.htm - http://www.ordotempli.org/history_of_the_knights_templar.htm ?
 


Posted By: Eondt
Date Posted: 20-Mar-2007 at 05:07
I am just skeptical of all conspiracy theories. Interesting website though...


Posted By: Gargoyle
Date Posted: 23-Mar-2007 at 02:45

Gargoyle has given some Serious thought of late to the idea of perhaps creating his own Order... The Order of the Gargoyle!

How does that sound?






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Posted By: JanusRook
Date Posted: 23-Mar-2007 at 03:02

How does that sound?


If I said awesome can I be Grandmaster of this order?


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Posted By: Gargoyle
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2007 at 01:28

Originally posted by JanusRook

If I said awesome can I be Grandmaster of this order?


Post me your Resume!

Originally posted by JanusRook


Edit: Or...maybe I'd just do stuff to mess with peoples heads, like create the duck-billed platypus.


Gargoyle is Displeased with you Janus because you sort of Ridiculed my friend the Platypus! I feel an Apology is in order here... Platypie are very sensitive Creatures.

I am very serious about creating an Order of the Gargoyle! One has already sketched a few designs concerning Regalia and Medals. I'm not sure yet what our Mission will be though... any suggestions are as always Welcome.







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Posted By: JanusRook
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2007 at 01:39


Post me your Resume!


Uh.....I moved you to your current perch across from the sorority house?


Gargoyle is Displeased with you Janus because you sort of Ridiculed my friend the Platypus! I feel an Apology is in order here... Platypie are very sensitive Creatures.


I'm sorry if I offended the loveable monotreme. I just said that he messes with peoples heads, I mean they are very intelligent and crafty creatures who enjoy friendly pranks.


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Posted By: Gargoyle
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2007 at 01:50

Yes you did JanusRook, and Garoyle appreciates your Birthday Present... but this is different... you want to be the Grandmaster of what could quite possibly become the Greatest Organization Ever... that may one day Rule the Entire Universe! Gargoyle simply cannot take this Risk without knowing more about YOU!

Especially when one sees that you send Passenger Aircraft on their way Patched up and Stuck together with Duck Tape!?






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Posted By: Kamikaze 738
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2007 at 19:52
I would have to say the Knights Hospitaller are the best Smile


Posted By: white knight
Date Posted: 03-May-2007 at 06:11
majority of you guys voted for the hospitaller, are this the legacy to the hospitallers?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta.svg - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Switzerland.svg">Flag%20of%20Switzerland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Denmark.svg">Flag%20of%20Denmark http://www.worth1000.com/library/knights/cross.gif -
 
 Switzerland and Denmark
 
because they looked like the flag of the sovereign military order of malta.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta.svg">Flag%20of%20the%20Order%20of%20Malta


Posted By: Jagiello
Date Posted: 03-May-2007 at 06:50
Hospitallers managed to be both military order and to keep maintaining hospitals.They were strong enough to survive against all ods and change their HQ many times but not too strong to be destroyed by their own kings like the templars.In the Holy Lands they had the strongest castle- Krak des Chevaliers.They defended Rodos in an almost perfect way and then Malta even braver.I believe the templars are much more popular and might have been a bit stronger but they turned in something like a state(like the teutons did) while the hospitallers remained true to their oughts-to be an order in deffence of christianity.They were the greatest.


Posted By: Jagiello
Date Posted: 03-May-2007 at 06:51
BTW i always wondered why is the flag of Denemark almost identical to the flag of the Hospitallers.


Posted By: white knight
Date Posted: 13-May-2007 at 00:54
http://images.google.com.ph/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Flag_of_the_Red_Cross.png/800px-Flag_of_the_Red_Cross.png&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Red_Cross.png&h=533&w=800&sz=3&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=OYGKeP1DdQY4vM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dred%2Bcross%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den">
 

Is the red cross a legacy of the knights templars?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta.svg">Flag%20of%20the%20Order%20of%20Malta
 
And how come I did not see this war banner and surcoats of the hospitallers in the movie kingdom of heaven? Hehe! I saw these:
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Timotheus
Date Posted: 30-May-2007 at 03:49
Hospitallers - the others were defeated by the Mongols Big%20smile


(...more or less...)


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Posted By: Jagiello
Date Posted: 30-May-2007 at 07:22
And which order was defeated by the mongols?Confused


Posted By: Timotheus
Date Posted: 30-May-2007 at 12:56
Teutonic Knights at Liegnitz, and Templars at Mohi -- there were other elements to the battles as well, I'm over-simplifying.

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Posted By: Jagiello
Date Posted: 30-May-2007 at 13:12
I'm asking which order did the mongols defeat as a whole.When you say the hospitallers were defeated by the mogols it sound like they were destroyed by them.


Posted By: Roberts
Date Posted: 30-May-2007 at 13:22
Originally posted by Timotheus

Teutonic Knights at Liegnitz, and Templars at Mohi -- there were other elements to the battles as well, I'm over-simplifying.


Teutons didn't fought at Liegnitz, it is just a myth.


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