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Topic: "Early" Europeans unable to disgest milk
Posted By: vulkan02
Subject: "Early" Europeans unable to disgest milk
Date Posted: 28-Feb-2007 at 20:09

Early Europeans unable to stomach milk

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Researchers must saw the bone to access the DNA inside it (Image: AG Palaeogenetik)

The study included bones from eight Neolithic Europeans (Image: Joachim Burger)

Researchers analysing the DNA in Neolithic human remains claim to have uncovered the first direct evidence that modern humans have evolved changes in response to natural selection.

Just 7000 years ago, Europeans were unable to digest milk, according to a new analysis of fossilised bone samples – nowadays more than 90% of this population can.

Europeans must have incurred a rapid change in their genetic make-up because it held an evolutionary advantage for them to be able to digest milk, says Mark Thomas at University College London in the UK, who carried out the study with colleagues.

However, other experts caution that larger studies are needed to support the conclusions of this research.

Milking it

The majority of humans around the world lose the ability to digest lactose – a sugar in milk – before reaching adulthood. This is because their gene for the enzyme lactase, which breaks lactose down, is switched off by late adolescence. Symptoms of this “lactose intolerance” include bloating and diarrhoea after drinking milk.

However, over 90% of northern Europeans have a version of the lactase gene that remains active throughout life, enabling them to continue drinking milk as adults.

To determine when this special lactose tolerance evolved in Europe, Thomas’s team analysed the DNA from 55 bone samples belonging to eight Neolithic Europeans. The skeletons were dated to between 5840 BC and 5000 BC.

Constant supply

After extracting the DNA from the fossils, researchers identified the sequence of the lactase gene for each of the eight Neolithic individuals. Surprisingly, says Thomas, none of the early Europeans had the gene mutation associated with lactose tolerance in modern-day Europeans.

Based on this result, he believes that the mutation for lactose tolerance spontaneously arose in Europe within the past 7000 years and quickly became prevalent through natural selection.

He explains that the ability to digest milk would give a massive survival advantage to people living thousands of years ago: milk from cows is uncontaminated by parasites, making it safer to drink than stream water. It is also available all year long, unlike seasonal crops.

Thomas also notes that the low levels of sunlight in northern Europe during winter mean that people have lowered levels of vitamin D in their bodies, and therefore have difficulty absorbing calcium. Milk solves this problem by providing them with both calcium and some vitamin D.

Prone to error

Thomas says the comparison of the fossil DNA and present-day European genes provides a before-and-after snapshot that provides “the first ever direct evidence that humans have changed in response to natural selection”.

“This is a fascinating and important study,” says bio-archaeologist Clark Larsen of Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio, US. “It offers a new window onto past human genetic variation, and is truly an important development in the history of our science and in the study of the past.”

But Larsen adds that larger studies of fossils are needed to confirm the absence of the lactose tolerance gene in Neolithic Europeans. He and others stress that the process of extracting and analysing DNA from fossils is very complicated and prone to error.

The ability to decipher genes from fossils “is a great feat in and of itself”, says Ripan Malhi at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, US. And Malhi says he believes that other examples of direct evidence for relatively recent natural selection acting on humans may be out there.

Journal reference: Proceedings of the National Academy

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Posted By: Adalwolf
Date Posted: 28-Feb-2007 at 22:13
Nice article! I love milk! I drink 2 cups a day, whole milk if I can get it, but sadly, they don't have it at the cafeteria! Cry

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Posted By: vulkan02
Date Posted: 28-Feb-2007 at 22:43
Are you sure you can digest it though?Wink

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Posted By: Adalwolf
Date Posted: 28-Feb-2007 at 23:12
Originally posted by vulkan02

Are you sure you can digest it though?Wink


Aye! I'm decsended from northern Europeans, have drank milk all my life, and have never been sick from it!


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Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 01-Mar-2007 at 16:08
Wow, that must be sad. And at that time, they didn't even had any soft drinks. So the only thing that people can drink are water, wine and alcoholic drinks... but just water for commoners. How sad, just drinking water everyday...

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Posted By: tommy
Date Posted: 05-Mar-2007 at 12:37
Even today, it is more difficult for many Han Chinese to digest milk.

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Posted By: tommy
Date Posted: 05-Mar-2007 at 12:39
what kind of milk the early european could not digest,from cow, horse, or goat. a

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Posted By: vulkan02
Date Posted: 05-Mar-2007 at 18:37
All kinds I believe it doesn't matter, but as the article points out they lose the ability to disgest lactose later in life.

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Posted By: Kashmiri
Date Posted: 07-Mar-2007 at 18:23
lol us indians have been drinking milk for thousands of years without any problems. we drink milk directly from cows


Posted By: malizai_
Date Posted: 07-Mar-2007 at 21:47
welcome to AE kashmiri
 
What do you mean by "we drink milk directly from cows ".


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Posted By: Adalwolf
Date Posted: 08-Mar-2007 at 02:51
Maybe it isn't pastuerized?

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Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 08-Mar-2007 at 06:13
It is unsurprising so far as I am concerned. Just look at the ability of milk digestion in peoples who have traditionally never had a strong tradition in keeping livestock. A great many Africans lack the ability to digest milk.

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Posted By: Kashmiri
Date Posted: 08-Mar-2007 at 11:07
preety much directly from cows


Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 13-Mar-2007 at 05:51
As in...directly??...OK then. Has anyone tried camel's milk ice cream?

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Posted By: Xshayathiya
Date Posted: 13-Mar-2007 at 11:39
Originally posted by tommy

Even today, it is more difficult for many Han Chinese to digest milk.
 
From what I understand 90% of Chinese are lactose intolerant Shocked


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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 03-Apr-2007 at 15:57
Originally posted by malizai_

welcome to AE kashmiri
 
What do you mean by "we drink milk directly from cows ".


Kinky peeps them Indians, they wrote the kama sutra and like to do it cow style ;)

I assume the implication is that is consumed fresh, farmhouse style.

Though he brings up an overlooked point, there are probably more lactose tolerant people in the Indian sub-continent area than there are in Europe.
Likewise there a few cattle dependant tribes in Africa that display high rates of lactose tolerance.
So its a chicken and egg thing, did cattle grazing select lactose tolerance, or did lactose tolerance make cattle grazing viable and give them an edge over the old nuts and berries folk?

IIRC there are two main theories, the one that it evolved seperatly due to local pressures in different populations, and the other that it originated possibly in the Middle East and spread outwards from there possibly with the spred of certain forms of agriculture.
That it should be highest in Sweden could thus be that A it was settled by populations who already had a lifestyle based on herding (cattle, and reindeer for the Sami) and B that the more extreme climate made dependance on milk more important.

The question i have is, are Llama's any good for miulk production? And how do Andean people fair to other American populatons in th elactose tolerance department?
Could it be simply that cows milk (which is easiest for humans to digest AFAIK) made it easier for populations that had access to domesticated cows to embrace the lifestyle (and this gradualy select people with the tolerance trait)? This would would allow for multiple regional lactose tolerance development, on the othe rhand it could be a lifestyle spreading slowly outwards from the middle east or whatever.
Maybe it was a mix of both theories.

Interestingly, i've heard (but not entirely sure), that european domestic cat breeds are morely likely to be lactose tolerant, perhaps a shared lifestyle, or accepting a particular pattern of domestication made them more favourable to humans?


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Posted By: elenos
Date Posted: 14-Jun-2007 at 23:36
I would question the semantics here. To say the Neanderthals didn't drink milk could be true, I haven't met any lately to ask them, but to say early Europeans (as known today) didn't drink milk would be nonsense. They also drank mare's milk and ate horse meat but didn't ride horses until much later.

I have heard of modern Asians and Africans being lactose intolerant, for the dairy cow is not a tropical animal and not native to the equatorial belt. They need cooler weather to survive. Now days, in the Philippines for instance, what is called the "Phillipino steers"  have been successfully introduced into cooler mountainous areas. The Asian buffalo is a different species, but must check that out.  

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Posted By: Maharbbal
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2007 at 12:46
you don't seem to uderstand that they lack the ability to diggest milk in great quantities because they are intolerant to lactose (ie do not produce lactase) they are incapable to drink any form of dairy be it human, cow, goat, camel whatever. It may be possible that some animal have a lower rate of lactose in their milk but it is merely an hypothesis.

Besides, some European population are still highly lactose intolerant (Ashkenazi, Italians). There is no doubt that the practice of drinking milk arose progressively but evidence are that in Europe too it took time (variation between countries indicate it).

I'm interested by any evidence of the contrary though.


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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 16-Jun-2007 at 10:09
It may be possible that some animal have a lower rate of lactose in their milk but it is merely an hypothesis.


Its more than a mere hypothesis. The fact is that everything from lactose levels, to fat content to energy varies quite a bit from breed to breed, and from species to species. IIRC Goats milk tends to have lower lactose levels than cows milk, which in turn has lower lactose levels than Horse milk.
Buffalo milk is slightly lactose richer than cows milk IIRC.

Seeing as you mentioned Italy, its actualy rather interesting. The tendancy is to assume a north south difference, which is true, in the North lactose tolerance is much more common than the south, but by region, Central Italy has the highest rates of tolerance, with rates comparable with Northern Europe.
Geographic distribution of the triat is rather flunky.


@elenos
Cattle is important in parts of Sahel belt, indeed it is here that you find Arficans with the highest levels of Lactose tolerance AFAIK.


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Posted By: elenos
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2007 at 02:39
Hi Cwyr, I assume the Asians don't drink buffalo milk?I really have no idea even though I have been to Asia. Then the Sahara is sub-tropical? That makes the difference from the tropical. Even in the sub-tropics they have trouble with  the tsetse fly on cattle and other nasty bitey things that obviously evolved in tropical areas but spread to find a survival niche in other areas.

The trouble with studying Africa is the climate belts don't travel in straight lines like on the map and so the migration and settlement routes of different peoples becomes blurred. Would you say, like in this question of lactose intolerance, people tend to keep some internal traits of the areas their ancestors evolved in? 

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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2007 at 08:15
Sahal is the strip of grazing land underneath the Sahara (or on top, if you want to be Ozzie-centric ;) ). Yes its not uniform, but its this rough 'belt' that you find traditionaly cattle grazing peoples, some of whom are known to have high rates of lactose tolerance (such as the Fulani who were once cattle grazing nomads).

As for Asian food, depends, they are reasonably common in Western, Southern, and i would assume Central (seeing as thats where yoghurt originates) Asian cusines, but East Asia is where its relativly uncommon (but didn't stop the japanese for inventing yakult). Whether this includes buffalo milk i can't say, but it doesn't seem that far fetched.


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Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 24-Jun-2007 at 13:37
We use to have a thread with a chart anyone rember that one?

with diffrent tolerances and how they spread geneticly


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Posted By: BRNRDSDJNG
Date Posted: 15-Jul-2007 at 06:22
Hard to believe because all children received breast feeding.


Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 15-Jul-2007 at 06:46
Originally posted by BRNRDSDJNG

Hard to believe because all children received breast feeding.


The makeup of milk in domestic animals is different to that of humans.


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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 15-Jul-2007 at 08:00
But not fundamentaly different. Anyways, its not an issue, prettty much everyone is lactose tolerant as a child, but many lose it as they progress in to adulthood.

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Posted By: jayeshks
Date Posted: 16-Jul-2007 at 11:19
Originally posted by elenos


I have heard of modern Asians and Africans being lactose intolerant, for the dairy cow is not a tropical animal and not native to the equatorial belt. They need cooler weather to survive. Now days, in the Philippines for instance, what is called the "Phillipino steers"  have been successfully introduced into cooler mountainous areas. The Asian buffalo is a different species, but must check that out.  


The zebu or humped cattle prevalent in Africa and on the subcontinent are well adapted to tropical conditions being very heat tolerant and parasite resistant.  When Afrikaner settlers first moved into the interior of Africa, they were puzzled to find their European breeds succumbing to illness and heat exhaustion whilst Bantu farmers seemed to have no trouble raising and herding cattle right next to them.   Many of these breeds have been imported into warm New World climates like Brazil and the southern US in recent times to introduce those traits into local cattle populations. 

The water buffalo, if anything is even better adapted to hot, humid conditions.  It produces more milk than the average cow and the milk has a higher fat content.  I've heard anecdotally that its milk is considered to be 'harder on the stomach' perhaps pointing to the higher lactose content as was suggested. 


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 16-Jul-2007 at 12:12
so it seems that besides europe, mid east and s asia, everyone else is lactose intolerant?

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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 16-Jul-2007 at 15:58
Water buffallo has similar lactose content as cow milk AFAIK. Its what mozzarella cheese was traditionaly made from.




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Posted By: elenos
Date Posted: 17-Jul-2007 at 00:21
I cannot keep it in any longer (not the milk) I think this thread has only been a shot at Europeans. I have said and will say again all those without native cows are lactose intolerant. But having traveled throughout SE Asia, those who really are LI I can say some of their foods make me throw up, so what? Nobody can be judged for better or worse in what they can digest. But man alive, do they get stuck into their pizzas, and with plenty of cheese!


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