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Topic: What is your favorite empire?
Posted By: Dilvish
Subject: What is your favorite empire?
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 15:28

My favorite is the Roman empir, it expanded over 3 continents, but in the end it split up in two and from that point on it was downhill. I dotn want to debate the romans just tell me your favorite empire.



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Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 16:34
Historically, I also believe that Roman Empire was probably the most stable, civilized, and capable civilization that may once had the power to conquer the world. Carthage would have been pretty neat if they weren't divided all over the world... and I suppose Nazi Germany wouldn't have been so bad if not for Hitler's racist ideologies... I also wondered the Japanese Empire. Imagine their capability if China, Japan, Korea, much of Southeastern Asia, and perhaps even India worked together (Not by force, but actually working together... which means each leaders from the former nations to cooperate with other representatives like democracy. Even US may not be able to beat this...Smile

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Posted By: apesako
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 16:47
myn is British empire the sun never sets off on british empire.

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Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 16:58
Really, Spanish Empire is the first empire for "The sun that never sets". But sure, British Empire was impressive.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 18:19
My favorite empires are the Inca and Spanish Empires.
 
Even after so many nasty things english-speaking schollars have said about the Spanish Empire, the truth is that an Empire that protected so many people that were escaping from persecution in Europe, can't be such bad at all. Many Germans, French and IRISH people escaped certain death in the Spanish Empire.
 
The Spanish Empire, even with so many real injustices it commited, was also the single one were one Indian could go to court to deffend his rights and win. It was also the only one that incorporated Natives with full citizenship and that even gave nobility titles to the most outstanding native americas.
 
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Posted By: west49ur
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 20:04
My Favourite Empire was either the mali Empire in the 1300's or the French Empire. You cant even bash the french empire, because the french or the franks stood up to the british in the 100 years war and didnt back down, you cant just look at ww1 and ww2 and make assumptions on the French. The Mali Empire is also amazing because they accomplished so much in so little time. Mansa Musa Is a God


Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 20:12
Originally posted by west49ur

My Favourite Empire was either the mali Empire in the 1300's or the French Empire. You cant even bash the french empire, because the french or the franks stood up to the british in the 100 years war and didnt back down, you cant just look at ww1 and ww2 and make assumptions on the French. The Mali Empire is also amazing because they accomplished so much in so little time. Mansa Musa Is a God
 
I will remember Mansa Musa as a kind king who donated so much gold during his piligrim that he had to get a loan to travel back to his nation. Mali Empire's stength was gold and salt, for the empire provided over half of ancient world's gold production. Africa' El Dorado, Mali Empire was.


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Posted By: west49ur
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 20:17

 Mansa Musa dropped the gold value in Mali when he went to Mecca. Truly Amazing



Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 20:18
Originally posted by west49ur

 Mansa Musa dropped the gold value in Mali when he went to Mecca. Truly Amazing

 
Ha ha, the first inflation crisis.LOL


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Posted By: west49ur
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 20:34
How do you know so much about every historical fact and civilization and historical figures?


Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 20:35
I don't. I know a little since I am obssess with history and science, like many others in this website.
 
By the way, welcome to AE.Thumbs%20Up


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Posted By: west49ur
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 20:41
Thanks man


Posted By: Top Gun
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2007 at 09:00

The Roman the Napoleonic and the mongolian empires



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Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 04-Feb-2007 at 17:43

Atlantis. Atlanteans (Indo-Europeans) dwelling in dried Western Mediteranean Sea and Black Sea before the melting of Ice Age.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2007 at 01:37
Mughal and the Persians Empires had the most influence on my life.


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Posted By: kajdom
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2007 at 06:28
Persian Empires.


Posted By: Ikki
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2007 at 09:52
It's a very difficult question, probably Roman Empire followed by Han-Song (both at the same level) China

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Posted By: Top Gun
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2007 at 13:10
Originally posted by pinguin

My favorite empires are the Inca and Spanish Empires.
 
Even after so many nasty things english-speaking schollars have said about the Spanish Empire, the truth is that an Empire that protected so many people that were escaping from persecution in Europe, can't be such bad at all. Many Germans, French and IRISH people escaped certain death in the Spanish Empire.
 
The Spanish Empire, even with so many real injustices it commited, was also the single one were one Indian could go to court to deffend his rights and win. It was also the only one that incorporated Natives with full citizenship and that even gave nobility titles to the most outstanding native americas.
 
Pinguin
 
 
and the Aztec empire or doesn't include it as an empire
 
 
 
 
 
 
and the Aztec empire or doesn't include it as an empire


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Posted By: kilroy
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2007 at 15:45
Roman Empire.

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Posted By: Top Gun
Date Posted: 06-Feb-2007 at 11:52
Roman
 
Akkadian
 
Persian
 
Hellenestic
 
Khmer
 
Mongol
 
Aztec
 
Inca
 
Napoleonic
 
Han
 
 


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Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 06-Feb-2007 at 15:53
I like the Central asian khanates the most after the Mongols. the Mamelukes are nice 2 so are the Seljuks. The Ottomans are okay I guess


But my vote goes to the Romans truely amazingClap.

Personally I think there was no British "Empire" as in a clasical way of an empire


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Posted By: Moustafa Pasha
Date Posted: 06-Feb-2007 at 17:25
 
The Ottoman Empire Was The best.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2007 at 13:40
no dought the mongol empire. no other warlord befor Ghengis khan or after did achieve so much with so little so fast.
 
my second is the noble greeks of alexander. a man who mighty castles fell to his willpower alone.
 
my third has to be the byzantine empire. they always seemed to me a piece of living history throughout the middle ages. being the followers of almost forgotten roman ways.
 


Posted By: Huncuk
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2007 at 14:25
Mongol Empire was great and my second chice is Ottoman Empire


Posted By: think
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2007 at 18:16
British & Roman seem the most impressive to me.






Posted By: Wrageowrapper
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2007 at 19:44
The Tongan maritime Empire followed closely by the Yap empire. Dont know why but I have always been interested in Pacific cultures. Pity their current King is such a douche.

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Posted By: AfrikaJamaika
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2007 at 23:22
my favorite is the Japanese back in the Samurai and ninja times.....


Posted By: think
Date Posted: 09-Feb-2007 at 07:00
Originally posted by AfrikaJamaika

my favorite is the Japanese back in the Samurai and ninja times.....


Ninjas are Chinese Wink


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27-Feb-2007 at 11:47

Favorite Empires:

1. Roman (starting after Hannibals defeat till the death of Marcus Aurelius)
2. Byzatian (Only 1,000 year Empire ever!)
3. Macedonian (Started with only hope and two genius: Alexander and his father Phillipe)
4. Cartago (I dont really know how to write it in English) (Really commerce oriented)
5. Persian (Same size as Roman one, just more oriented to the East)
 
NOT SO FAVORITE EMPIRES:
1. Mongolian (Their idea was  Let's destroy everything that reminds a city)
2. USA (1776 - ????)
3. Viking (Never really a pilitical unit, just domination ...)
4. German (WWII)
5. Japanese (WWII)
 
Greeting from Guayaquil, Ecuador ...
 


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Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 27-Feb-2007 at 13:06
Sassanid and Abbasid empires are my favourite.

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Posted By: Ponce de Leon
Date Posted: 27-Feb-2007 at 13:47
Originally posted by think


Originally posted by AfrikaJamaika

my favorite is the Japanese back in the Samurai and ninja times.....
Ninjas are Chinese Wink


That is so not true. if ninjas wer chinese then y does their diet contain sushi? Explain that!

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Posted By: Top Gun
Date Posted: 27-Feb-2007 at 14:20

The best empire was the Roman empire in assimilation codes of conduct and bringing over the culture and the nice things



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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 27-Feb-2007 at 14:23
Favorite Empire:
 
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Posted By: Roberts
Date Posted: 27-Feb-2007 at 15:16
Swedish Empire

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Posted By: pekau
Date Posted: 27-Feb-2007 at 19:39
Originally posted by think

Originally posted by AfrikaJamaika

my favorite is the Japanese back in the Samurai and ninja times.....


Ninjas are Chinese Wink
 
Ah... no! The identity crisis in Far East reveals at last!


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Posted By: ChickenShoes
Date Posted: 21-May-2007 at 12:57
Originally posted by apesako

myn is British empire the sun never sets off on british empire.
ah but that was a term originally coined for the Spanish empire! I agree the British Empire is a fantastic empire but my vote's for the Roman Empire. But who is a better representation of the great Roman Empire than the British Empire? They are more Roman than the Italians.


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Posted By: Link
Date Posted: 21-May-2007 at 16:21
Originally posted by think

Originally posted by AfrikaJamaika

my favorite is the Japanese back in the Samurai and ninja times.....


Ninjas are Chinese Wink
Actually everybody thinks that because of the @#^@(censored) "karate-movies", but in fact there were ninjas in Japan too.
The difference between ninjas and samurai is not nationality.


Posted By: Jagiello
Date Posted: 22-May-2007 at 16:34

I like Roman and Byzantine because they were the only empires so big and yet so stable.They weren't just war machines like the Ottoman or the pre-Christ Persian but made lasting things like the most common example - even the roman roads that still stand.

I don't like the Mongol,as vvalverde7 said - "Their idea was  Let's destroy everything that reminds a city".And also the empire of Alexander the Great which wasn't in fact a country but only big ammount of territories conquered fast and even faster lost.


Posted By: Kamikaze 738
Date Posted: 22-May-2007 at 21:16
My favorite empires are usually;

The Roman Empire ~ One of the greatest and largest empire ruled the Meditereanan Sea during the classical age. Saw many strong government and military conquest with its distintive culture. It created a vast empire that had a lasting effect throughout history.

The Han Empire ~ Considered by many the first prosperous dynasty of China and is seen as the foundation of all Chinese empires to come with its installment of many systems of ruling. The Chinese people still considered themselves as Han after this great dynasty.

The Ming Empire ~ Also one of my most favorite because it was one of the most unique and powerful dynasty in Chinese history. It saw the emergance of the largest naval expedition in history and flourish in art and science. Created quite a stablity in China.

The British Empire
~ Indeed one of the largest empire in history, I do have my respects on such a vast empire. It never cease to amaze me how the British were able to take in 1/4 of the world and having such an influence on them. Brilliant!

The Arab Empire ~ Somehow, this empire stood out to me because of its culture and style. Its just very different with a combination of Western and Eastern culture brought into one vast empire. The amount of terroritial gain still impress me.

Other notatable empires that I would like to mention was the Mongol Empire, the Persia Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Ottoman Empire,  and the empire of Alexander the Great (if it can be said like that...).


Posted By: Batu
Date Posted: 24-May-2007 at 10:47
you cant call Ottoman Empire just a war-machine.I dont deny that it was a war-machine but their law and ruling systems,justice and their tolerance to other nationalities under Ottoman rule is matchless.(awesome large and professional army:)


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Posted By: Roberts
Date Posted: 24-May-2007 at 11:15
Originally posted by Batu

you cant call Ottoman Empire just a war-machine.I dont deny that it was a war-machine but their law and ruling systems,justice and their tolerance to other nationalities under Ottoman rule is matchless.(awesome large and professional army:)

Only Janissaries were "professional" troops and they weren't majority of Ottoman armies for the most of the time, especially during conquest years.


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Posted By: akritas
Date Posted: 24-May-2007 at 11:38
Difficult choice Confused.
As Greek I have to select in the only one that unite for first time the Greeks.So my favour is the Macedonian Empire or better the Hellenstic Empire (s).
 
And I am explain......
 
In spite of the political turbulence and chaos of the 4rth BC, Greece was poised on its most triumphant period: the Hellenistic age.
The word, Hellenistic(founder of this was the German Goustav Droysen), is derived from the word, Hellene, which was the Greek word for the Greeks. The Hellenistic age was the "age of the Greeks, during this time, Greek culture and power extended itself across the known world.

While the clasical age of Greece produced great literature, poetry, philosophy, drama, and art, the Hellenistic age "hellenized" the world. At the root of Hellenism were the conquests of Philip II and his son, Alexander III. However, the Macedonians did more than control territory.they actively exported Greek culture: politics, law,liteerature, philosophy, religion and art. This was a new idea, exporting culture, and more than anything else this exporting of culture would deeply influence all the civilizations and cultures that would later erupt from this soil: the Romans, the Christians, the Jewish diaspora, and Islam.

Macedonia all during the age of the Hellenic city-states was an anomaly.It was a typical  Hellenic Archaic (not classical) kingdom.  Macedonians were the Greeks who had to contend, then, with all the European tribes, many of which were war-like. So the Macedonians served as a kind of buffer for the Greeks, as the faithful Greeks who stood between the tribal Europeans and the Greek city-states. For all that, the Macedonians were deeply unappreciated by their fellow Greeks; they were looked on as no better than barbarians themselves, particularly since they had never developed or adopted the Greek polis and education.

Macedonians were ruled by a king, much like the Mycenean kings. The king came to power through inheritance, but first had to be approved by the army. Beneath the king was an aristocracy of nobles who had a limited amount of power; like all monarchies that shared power with an aristocracy, the balance of power frequently shifted from the king to the nobles and back again. Into this situation, at the peak of the political chaos roiling the Greek world to the south, stepped a powerful king who unified the country of Macedon and set his sights on conquering the whole of the Greek world: Philip of Macedon.

Despite the constant conflict, the Hellenistic world was an incredibly prosperous one. Alexander and his successors had liberated an immense amount of wealth from the Persian empire, and with this new wealth in circulation the standard of living rose dramatically. Each of the empires embarked on building projects, on scholarship, on patronage of the arts, and on literature and philosophy. The Ptolemies built an enormous library in their capital city of Alexandria, and sponsored the translation of a host of religious and literary works into Greek.

In my opinion this period really marked the first international culture in western, middle eastern, and north African history.

Greeks imported their culture: political theory, philosophy, art, and literature all over the known civilized world. This culture would greatly alter the culture and religion of the Mediterannean. But the flow of culture worked in the opposite direction as well; non-Greek ideas and non-Greeks flowed into Greece (and Italy). They took with them their religions, their philosophies, science, and culture; in this environment, eastern religions in particular began to take hold in the Greek city-states both in the east and in Greece. Among these religions was Zoroastrianism and Mithraism; in later years, this international environment would provide the means for the spread of another eastern religion, Christianity.


This process of the "hellenization" ("making Greek") of the world took place largely in the urban centers the Greeks began to zealously build. While the Greeks had for a long time believed that monarchy was a sign of barbarity, they had to come to terms with the reality of their new form of government. So they compromised. While they accepted the monarchy, the set about building somewhat independent poleis that had the structure of the polis without its political independence. The growth of these cities provoked massive migrations from the Greek mainland, as Greeks settled in these new, far-flung poleis to assume lucrative positions in the military and administration.

Spread  from Greece to Egypt and East India, Greek culture was the most significant of its times. The mighty empires (Droysen gave one name in this) of the Greeks hung onto this vast amount of territory for almost three centuries. Slowly, however, a new power was rising in the west, steadily building its own, accidental empire.
 
By the time of Christ, the great Greek empire(s) of the Hellenistic world had been replaced and unified once more into a single empire under the control of an Italian people, the Great Romans.


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