Persian music & poetry
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Topic: Persian music & poetry
Posted By: Hellios
Subject: Persian music & poetry
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 00:17
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Mohammad Reza Shajarian...
- Live Part 1/6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFiZEl_jQLw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFiZEl_jQLw
- Live Part 2/6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaumgNxlJwo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaumgNxlJwo
- Live Part 3/6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JH5Z4hWVwk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JH5Z4hWVwk
- Live Part 4/6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7kYZ34Lgag - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7kYZ34Lgag
- Live Part 5/6: missing
- Live Part 6/6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAoyu5vL2bw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAoyu5vL2bw (my fave)  |
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 06:04
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I love the kamanche and tonbak, that's his son playing on the tonbak and also singing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnoVTr2RyBw&mode=related&search= That is Nazeri from his concert in Tabriz. ------------- |
Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 08:58
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpx5ML199S8&mode=related&search= - Googoosh -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox3o3ySEwDA&mode=related&search= - Googoosh - She was so hot! Look at those seductive eyes! Such a good dancer too. Shame she married a mullah and came to her senses 20 years too late. lol. ------------- |
Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 10:07
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oky2HX9LZg - Shakila - Classic Persian with Ney http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzYGAX14oPQ - Kamkars in Persian, the female vocalist on the left, Mryam Ebrahimpour, is my dad's cousin's cousin! ------------- |
Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 11:29
| Shajarian is great, i have seen him live in a concert in Hamburg. |
Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 11:37
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More Googoosh, Hellios, you have ruined my day with this thread, all I have been doing is surfing youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9RXq5Wkxaw&mode=related&search= - Talagh (divorce) - one of my faves. ------------- |
Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 12:16
Me 2 
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Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 12:35
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So you know Arash, don't you? I am very sure, if he lived in Iran his music won't be so pupolar. But europeans love him, he was 3 weeks in the top ten of Germany. Could you believe it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E29Omh8XgVI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E29Omh8XgVI |
Posted By: shinai
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 12:37
| I am a big fan of Shajarian, Persian music is very technical, and to enjoy that a musical knowledge is necessary. |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 18:36
It's been Persian music day here too.
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 18:44
Spectacular.
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 19:34
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The 12 main Persian music instruments:
01. Barbat: a very important instrument in the course of the history of Persian music. The ud seems to be of Iranian origin and is the barbat of the pre-Islamic era. It was taken by the Arabs and with its Arabic name, ud, was introduced into Europe to become the famous Lute, so popular during the renaissance. Is a short necked with pear-shaped body and is played with plectrum. It normally has five courses of two strings tuned mainly in fourths, without frets.
 02. Daf: a frame drum with a row of small circular metal hoops fastened to the inside of its rim, the hoops will rattle when the membrane of the drum is struck.
 03. Gheichak: a bowed spike fiddle. The instrument has four metal strings and a range of about two and half octaves. Shaped like the Indian sarinda.
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04. Narmeh-Nay: mostly used in the west or south-west part of Caspian Sea. Turks, Azeris, Armenians, Kurds, were in love with the Narmeh-Nay. The Kurds called it narmeh-nay, the Turks named it mey, it is also referred to as balaban in Azerbaijan, and doodook in Armenia. There is an instrument much similar to Narmeh-nay yet much shorter in size exists in China called guan. Narmeh-nay has limited capacity and is used to play native melodies, which range into one octave and several notes, and never reaches a second octave.
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05. Nay: dates back to the age of the pyramids. Ney is a vertical reed pipe with six finger holes in front and one in the back. It is made of a seven-segment section of reed. Ney is common throughout the Near east, although the Iranian technique is probably the most versatile, using both the low breathy register and the sharp higher register (held between the teeth). Ney has a range of about two and half octaves.
 06. Santur: a trapezoid shape dulcimer with eighteen courses of four strings and bridges to provide three octaves, from which the Hungarian cimbalom and the Chinese yang-chin are thought to be derived. It is played by two delicate wooden hammers.
 07. Setar: a long necked lute type instrument related to the ancient tanbur. It has four strings and a small half-pear shaped sound box. It is played with the strumming action of the right index finger nail. The Setar has moveable frets and a range of two octaves and a 5th.
 08. Sorna: of the wind family, with a reed for generating the voice and a tubular body with finger-holes like in a flute. The body is of a progressively opening type. It is the same instrument more or less as sunay in china, shenay in India, zorna in Greece, zurla in Yugoslavia, bombarde in France, zokra in Tunis, ghaytah or raita in Morocco mizmar in Egypt, and zamr in Lebanon and Iraq.
 09. Tanbur: an ancient, three stringed lute that was already present in the 3rd century at the court of the Sasanids in Iran. Eventually, the tanbur was destined to be used by the Ahl-e Haqq as a sacred instrument. Its pear-shaped body is normally carved out of one piece of mulberry wood. It has fourteen frets.
 10. Tar: a plucked stringed instrument with a double-bellied body. Made of mulberry wood carved in two sections. Tar has six strings, but four of the strings are tuned in pairs. It has eighteen frets per octave unequally spaced to make possible performance of all modes and is played with a small metallic plectrum.
 11. Tonbak: the chief percussion instrument, it is carved of single block of wood. Its body is hollow, open at the lower end and covered with goat skin in the wide upper end. It is held horizontally and played with both hands. The elaborated finger technique consists of various rolling and snapping styles, which allow for great variety of sounds.
 12. Kamanche: a bowed instrument, which has a round and deep sound box. The body consists of a wooden hemisphere covered with thin sheepskin membrane. It has four strings and a range of about three octaves. The Kamanche is held in a vertical position, when played.
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 19:47
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Well done. Tar means string in Persian, se-tar, gui-tar ;) ------------- |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 27-Dec-2006 at 18:06
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Topic changed from "Persian music" to "Persian music & poetry" as I'll be adding Persian poetry.
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 27-Dec-2006 at 18:29
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Just came across this beauty by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqfsoOYRmLk&eurl= - Niyaz .
Tigers here once roamed: 
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 27-Dec-2006 at 23:50
Wow, what an incredible blend of Persian & Indian music! Modernized so well, and good use of traditional instruments. Apparently, "their lyrics draw from poets such as Rumi, and other classic poetry sung in Urdu also."
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 28-Dec-2006 at 00:07
 Khayyam, Persian poet, mathematician, astronomer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khayyam - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khayyam
Listen to Khayyam poetry:
Only first 30 seconds on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ijlbRnEbRI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ijlbRnEbRI
Quatrain from the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEF3Eobsm_M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEF3Eobsm_M
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 28-Dec-2006 at 08:12
That song's in Persian. ------------- |
Posted By: omshanti
Date Posted: 28-Dec-2006 at 09:14
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Here is a link to possibly the greatest Flamenco singer. May seem off-topic but I find the voice-tone and the style of singing reminds me of Persian singers. Compare it with the Shajarian clips that Hellios posted in the beginning of the thread. Click this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO88Wppu4wg&mode=related&search= - EL CAMARON
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 28-Dec-2006 at 11:02
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That's amazing, I thought only iranian singers did that with their voice. What he does is not exactly the same..
But the roots in such singing are from the chanting of Zardoshti Magi in prayer. ------------- |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 17:27
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Patriotic Persian song called Vatan, by Alireza Assar.
Nice music & the images during the first 60 seconds precious.
After 60 secs images become a bit political (I think) but the music & singing are what some of you might find interesting.
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-2877328818160392711&q=Iran+song - http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-2877328818160392711&q=Iran+song
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 17:45
Have you seen this before?
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 18:32
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I haven't... but there were wild lions in Shiraz/Pars province up until the 40s. Do you know who it is by and when it dates from? ------------- |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2006 at 03:22
I noticed this but haven't read it all yet: http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11030 - http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11030
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 02:49
| Persian tar solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbveeVomWy4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbveeVomWy4 |
Posted By: gok_toruk
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 10:50
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Of Iranian singers, I like Shakila a lot since the lyrics are quite meaningful. What's more she's really a MUSICIAN, rather than a model, like modern day Iranian girl singers.
Of her works, there comes a song, I don't know the name, but she says: 'Bar Elaha Madadi Kon, Ze To Ghafel Nashavam'. You know the song, Zagors? By the way, I've heard she's a doctor. Is that right? ------------- Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota. |
Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 18:27
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Yes i know the song, the name is "Darvish". I doubt she is a medical Doctor, if you meant this. At least i havn't found anything about it here: http://www.shakila.com/ - http://www.shakila.com/ ------------- |
Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 18:49
Thanks a lot Hellios for sharing Vatan clip, its pretty nice 
Your clip solo Tar by Shahba Motallebi is very nice too. ------------- |
Posted By: TheGame
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 18:58
Alireza is an excellent singer, and many times the Islamic republic asks him to sing nationalistic songs such as this and they put it on national tv, to keep support for the regime up I guess. Persian Armed Forces makes great videos, his interest is military if you guys could tell with the video... Here is one of his best videos (Iranian rap song included): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2504730372443526258&q=iran&hl=en - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2504730372443526258&q=iran&hl=en ------------- |
Posted By: gok_toruk
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 09:00
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Hi Maziar. Thanks for the info. I've renamed the file in my collection!
------------- Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota. |
Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 08-Jan-2007 at 15:19
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You are welcome ------------- |
Posted By: Khashayarshah
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2007 at 20:32
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I say yes to Shajarian, Ferdowsi, and Hafez!
------------- Who is the real fool? the man who says what to do, or the man that follows him? |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 11-Mar-2007 at 08:34
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"Farid Farjad was born in Tehran in 1938. Upon receiving his masters degree in classical music from the Tehran Music Conservatory in 1966, he won the First Violin Seat in the Tehran Symphony Orchestra and was appointed to serve a tenure at the conservatory to teach classical violin."
"Farid's profound knowledge of Persian folk music and his gifted ability to draw on the highly advanced techniques of Western classical music has given life to an innovative style of violin performance in playing Persian music."
Farid Farjad violin with photos of Turkey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veS8QBb88V0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veS8QBb88V0
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 14-Mar-2007 at 13:16
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXvcPmJk7O0 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXvcPmJk7O0
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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 14-Mar-2007 at 14:07
Cool. Alireza Assar has a great voice. The beginning of that video is precious.
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 14-Mar-2007 at 17:32
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Yea, I only like the first half of the song though, the singing is not harmonious with the music... ------------- |
Posted By: Ellin
Date Posted: 16-Mar-2007 at 03:32
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Great music..
I'm a big fan of world music and listening to these Persian songs brought back memories of Ross Daly's concert. Anyone heard of him ?? He's Irish, but now lives in Crete and can play a myriad of traditional instruments, from Irish, to Greek, Turkish, Middle Eastern etc
Check him out
http://www.rossdalymusic.com/ - http://www.rossdalymusic.com/ ------------- "Grk ppl r anarchic & difficlt 2 tame.4 this reasn we must strike deep in2 thr lang,relgn,cult& hist resrvs, so that we cn neutrlz thr ability 2 develp,distinguish themslvs/ 2 prevail"..up urs Kisngr |
Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 02:08
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 05:06
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSZWsKYZ4Ew[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 23-Mar-2012 at 00:34
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLEK9ZEjxeQ[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 25-Mar-2012 at 20:37
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XufLpz-Ibtw[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2012 at 01:28
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqhNPY882kE[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 01:05
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcldS03loco/[/TUBE] ------------- |
Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2012 at 02:38
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUilx9XrxcE[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 11-Apr-2012 at 02:35
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvoxSMHJ2Z0[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 02-May-2012 at 21:56
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUGRlLwsDtc&feature=related[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 09-May-2012 at 01:44
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYxBH9nk7VA[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 02-Sep-2012 at 12:51
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-isFUk2Yzqc[/TUBE]
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