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New Chinese small arms...

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Topic: New Chinese small arms...
Posted By: babyblue
Subject: New Chinese small arms...
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 06:13

   anyone see those?



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Posted By: dark_one
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 13:40
 That last one looks suspiciously like and RPG7


Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 13:48


The weapon on the first 3 pictures reminds me the French FA MAS ( Bull pup design ) with a drum magazine.

Regards


Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 13:55


I did a quick research on the net.
That bull pup rifle is the Chinese Rifle Type 95

I found some links in regards Chinese weaponry:



http://www.snipersparadise.com/articles/chinacomplex.htm

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/default.asp

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_95.asp

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_79.asp



Posted By: Genghis
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 18:20
Those make my mouth water.

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Posted By: Turk
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 22:00
lol they don't look like "small arms" to me.

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Posted By: babyblue
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2004 at 05:07
   RPG 7's are muzzle loading and single shot only, the one you saw in the pic are indeed grenade launchers except it's not rocket propelled like the RPG, plus, it's fed by a drum...

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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2004 at 13:08
bullpup is hte way of the future

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 20:04

Originally posted by Tobodai

bullpup is hte way of the future

I would have to disagree.  The bullpup presents some intrinsic disadvantages.  For example, reloading a magazine is more awkward than with the conventional assault weapon design.  Aiming is more difficult from a standing position, due to the magazine location behind the trigger handle.  Another point is reliability, since the bullet reloading action takes place behind the trigger group.



Posted By: Genghis
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 21:10
I want one of those for Christmas.

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Posted By: babyblue
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 21:29

Originally posted by Genghis

I want one of those for Christmas.

        hrm....and what will you do with it, jim?



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Posted By: Genghis
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 22:32
I'll give my ex-girlfriend a visit.  Teach that bitch who has an anger problem!

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2004 at 05:26
They have a Russian/Soviet Union Design going on. Reminds me of a modified AK-47 only in black.

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Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2004 at 19:05
Originally posted by xenophon2000

Originally posted by Tobodai

bullpup is hte way of the future


I would have to disagree.  The bullpup presents some intrinsic disadvantages.  For example, reloading a magazine is more awkward than with the conventional assault weapon design.  Aiming is more difficult from a standing position, due to the magazine location behind the trigger handle.  Another point is reliability, since the bullet reloading action takes place behind the trigger group.



You are right, Xenophon.

During stress conditions itīs not easy to reload a gun without the proper training.The Bull pup design brings a reduction on the rifle size and not affecting the size of the barrel, but at the same time the reload operation becomes more complicated.

As an example, the UZI has the magazine located on the grip, as the semiautomatic pistols. To give you a better idea what Iīm talking about try to touch your hands on complete darkness. You see, thatīs a natural reflect. Imagine trying to locate the receiver in any other position. On the traditional models, the receiver is located just in from of the hand grip and the triger.




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