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Topic: question for urdu readers
Posted By: jayeshks
Subject: question for urdu readers
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2006 at 12:28
From all the Persian and Arabic borrowings in Urdu is it possible for Urdu readers to glean the gist of Persian texts? Or is it too different?

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Posted By: indiafinest.com
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2006 at 12:50
Its different, I know to read urdu, but i cant understand persian, alphabet set is almost same but they have all different words, only some words are same. Urdu is 75% hindi and 25% arabic/persian words, grammar is same as hindi.

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Posted By: jayeshks
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2006 at 14:13
I know the grammar is the same as Hindi but I guess it seemed to me that those versed in scholarly Urdu would understand more Persian words than the average person.  Guess I was wrong. 

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Posted By: maqsad
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2006 at 17:02
I can understand some farsi just by reading it. Most words in urdu have 2 or 3 substitutes. Turns out many of those substitures are either arabic or farsi. If I read farsi I can make out about 1/3 of the vocabulary almost. And I have never taken any lessons in farsi. Now hindi speakers would have more trouble. 


Posted By: RajputGirl
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2006 at 18:20
^I take it you're a Pakistani?
 
 
If the answer yes, let's just say that explains a lot.  LOL  


Posted By: Vivek Sharma
Date Posted: 01-Sep-2006 at 00:39
In pakistan the language is evolving gradually as becoming closer & closer to arabic instead of farsi. While in india the old urdu still continues, which is hindi written in farsi script with some farsi & arabic words thrown in.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01-Sep-2006 at 01:00
Yes, you can understand alot of Farsi.

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Posted By: Kashmiri
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2007 at 21:05
i understand many farsi (persian) words because kashmiri is heavily influnced by the eastern iranic languages. 


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2007 at 03:17
And many Pakistanis can understand Farsi pretty easily since a lot of our poetry and literature us in that langauge.


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Posted By: Kashmiri
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2007 at 13:44
well yeah i heard the people who speak older urdu can understand a lot of farsi, but newer urdu has lost most of its persian touch.



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