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    Posted: 06-Sep-2004 at 19:57

 

 I guess the discussion cant really develope that well until more information is realeased but interesting. I do remember reading about a tribe in Brazil that also was supposedly to pre-date the current native americans. Are these related to these Australians?

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EXETER, England (Reuters) - Anthropologists stepped into a hornets' nest on Monday, revealing research that suggests the original inhabitants of America may in fact have come from what is now known as Australia.


 

 

The claim will be extremely unwelcome to today's native Americans who came overland from Siberia and say they were there first.

But Silvia Gonzalez from John Moores University in Liverpool said skeletal evidence pointed strongly to this unpalatable truth and hinted that recovered DNA would corroborate it.

"This is very contentious," Gonzalez, a Mexican, said with a smile at the annual meeting of the British association for the Advancement of Science. "They (native Americans) cannot claim to have been the first people there."

She said there was very strong evidence that the first migration came from Australia via Japan and Polynesia and down the Pacific Coast of America.

Skulls of a people with distinctively long and narrow heads discovered in Mexico and California predated by several thousand years the more rounded features of the skulls of native Americans.

One particularly well preserved skull of a long-face woman had been carbon dated to 12,700 years ago, whereas the oldest accurately dated native American skull was only about 9,000 years old.

"We have extracted her DNA. It is going to be a bomb," she said, declining to give details but adding that the tests carried out so far were being replicated to make sure they were accurate.

She said there were tales from Spanish missionaries of an isolated coastal community of long-face people in Baja California of a completely different race and rituals from other communities in America at the time.

These last survivors were wiped out by diseases imported by the Spanish conquerors, Gonzalez said.

The research is one of 11 different projects in America, Africa, Asia and the Middle East being funded over a four-year period by Britain's Natural Environment Research Council.

The projects, focusing on diet, dating and dispersal of people down the millennia in the face of climate change, aim to rewrite anthropology.

"We want to make headlines from heads," said Professor Clive Gamble of Southampton university. "DNA will give us a completely new map of the world and how we peopled it."

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Sep-2004 at 20:18
Human remains dating back some 30,000 years have been found in the Americas, and there has been much speculation that the theoretical migration of 12,000 years was only one of the more recent ones.
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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 19:19

     would you happened to know which part of the Americas remains that far back were found ?

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 19:33
South America, possibly Brazil? Though i'm not sure if they were direct human remains, or simply possible signs of human activity (fires in caves or something).

Oldest finds in N. America date to 13,000, a skull IIRC.
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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 19:50
  ..hmm, then perhaps we were refering to the same tribe in Brazil. Ill check on it later.
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  Quote JanusRook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 23:44

You fools don't you all know that any human activity in america before 12,000 years is from time travelers that got caught in the past.

Hey they did find a battery in a rock in arizona that dated back longer than humans have existed.

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  Quote Cornellia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Sep-2004 at 07:23
It is in South America - in Brazil, I think.   The date of the remains are still being contested but to date, the results seem to all point to a much earlier date than previously found remains.
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