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okamido 
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 Topic: 'Captain of the Blacks' frescoPosted: 04-Nov-2011 at 21:52 |
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Until seeing this, I was unaware at how early Nubian mercenaries had made there way to the Greek Mediterranean. The "Captain of the Blacks" fresco from Knossos, Crete, circa 1450-1400 bce, show a Minoan javelinman leading two Nubian mercenary javelinmen behind him. The two potrusions at his head are identified as feathers, which would normally be worn by the Nubians, and used to identify the Minoan as a part of their unit, and supposedly, their captain.
 How exactly did they make there way there? Soldier exchange with Egypt? Slaves sold or traded with the Minoans? Just some adventurers who left Egyptian service and found there way north? |
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medenaywe
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Posted: 05-Nov-2011 at 03:34 |
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Nubians were soldiers in Egyptian army.Egyptian officer and soldiers were painted on walls.Nubians were skilled archers.
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Ollios
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Posted: 05-Nov-2011 at 15:58 |
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Africans in greek art
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/afrg/hd_afrg.htm Black people can effect ancient greece more than you think. There is a term; "Black Greeks" Black Athena: the book which says, ancient greeks are black origin http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/black-athena-the-fabrication-of-ancient-greece/ (51 minutes video) Some people believe that, black figures in greek art show africans  and I don't know is it true or false but I know that todays Greeks have got stronger African genetic origin than Turks or Italians http://my.opera.com/ancientmacedonia/blog/show.dml/3003682 "Other Negroid genes have also been found in Greeks. They are the only Caucasoid population who bears cystic fibrosis mutations typical of Black Africans" http://www.africanamericanculturalcenterpalmcoast.org/historyafrican/greekblacklinks.htm |
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Ellerin Kabe'si var,
Benim Kabem İnsandır |
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medenaywe
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Posted: 05-Nov-2011 at 18:32 |
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Those pictures just showed us World was place for all colors people.Will stress brick color on captain body similar as color of Egyptian pharaohs!Black color is black color those are red&brown will call it brick color.
All they were well dressed and picture did not show color superiority at all.Mythological stories were described on pottery or story tales. |
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Nick1986
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Posted: 05-Nov-2011 at 20:01 |
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Any idea how many Africans settled in Greece? This theory turns everything we've been taught on its head
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Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains!
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medenaywe
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Posted: 06-Nov-2011 at 04:16 |
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Nick,Egypt rule 2000-3000 years.Upper was land of black people,Lower of white or more colorful.All known Mediterranean area was colonised by those people.There were also natives on those territories I agree,but we knew nothing about them.Maybe further DNA will shows us genesis &migrations &mixing &extinction of all.I believe that "white" color "stone washed" people came in last 2000 years period of time.Is this reason for racism in modern world?Will call that "ancestry color complex&frustration".They said Hitler's ancestors were black also.Personally i believe all this started with man known today as Alexander the Great.He tried something "uber being":new human unit.Egyptian&Persian mix that will rule ancient world.
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ConradWeiser
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Posted: 08-Nov-2011 at 17:54 |
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Some how I'm always surprised at the amount of eccentric theories that make their way onto this forum.
"Other Negroid genes have also been found in Greeks. They are the only Caucasoid population who bears cystic fibrosis mutations typical of Black Africans" No serious geneticist would be caught dead using some of these terms. "Negroid genes"? Really? Anywho, to address the OP's post: The fluidity of people across cultural and geographic boundaries has always been a staple of humanity's history. Nubian mercenaries, traders, and diplomats frequented many areas of the Near East. You couldn't live in Carthage, Rome, Athens, or Persepolis without seeing Nubians or their cultural products. And I don't mean to put them on a pedestal. This was true of every group of the ancient world. Edited by ConradWeiser - 08-Nov-2011 at 18:03 |
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