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Reginmund
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Topic: why do people consider blondes air heads? Posted: 07-Mar-2009 at 15:16 |
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Recognising of course that you were just defending your hair colour group from what's essentially racism, and that both your sentences are in a very strict literal sense correct, I have to point out that the second sentence is statistical nonsense. The equal and opposite shitistic would be to say that as evolution teaches us that a animal with a superior genetic mutation will be more successful, and that the number of black haired people far outnumbers others, black hair is actually a mutation that drastically increases you chance of finding a mate & having kids.
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. First you say both sentences are correct in a strictly literal way, then you say the second is statistical nonsense and give me a "shitistic" that I have trouble connecting to my statement. I can only conclude that what you're trying to say is that because there are more people with dark pigments then there will also be more children with dark pigments, so that statistically there is a greater chance of procreating if you have dark pigments. Obviously this is true, and I don't see any problem with it or how it changes anything about the fact that the North European countries have among the highest levels of IQ and education.
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Omar al Hashim
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Posted: 07-Mar-2009 at 23:48 |
I'm just nitpicking, its not really important. Have you studied statistics? Its a hidden variable problem. For example, I can say that "religiosity in Spain has declined with increased Islander migration to Australia." Statistically I can prove that to be true, and I can prove a correlation, however there is no causal link as implied by the sentence. Its literally true, but statistical nonsense.
So statistically blond people are more likely to be highly educated, but causally there is no link.
(And Shititistic was a pun, between 'shit' and 'statistic')
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Posted: 08-Mar-2009 at 00:15 |
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
I'm just nitpicking, its not really important. Have you studied statistics? Its a hidden variable problem. For example, I can say that "religiosity in Spain has declined with increased Islander migration to Australia." Statistically I can prove that to be true, and I can prove a correlation, however there is no causal link as implied by the sentence. Its literally true, but statistical nonsense.
So statistically blond people are more likely to be highly educated, but causally there is no link. |
Oh yes, I see what you mean now. Statistical truths are inherently prone to be skewed, it's nothing new. My point was simply that seeing as the North European countries are among the most highly educated, justification for the blonde stereotyping can hardly be found in statistics, quite the contrary. If these countries were backwards and illiterate it would of course be a different matter.
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
(And Shititistic was a pun, between 'shit' and 'statistic') |
I can't help but feel insulted if you truly believe I didn't get your pun.
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Posted: 08-Mar-2009 at 00:18 |
, better safe than sorry
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Posted: 08-Mar-2009 at 10:19 |
Originally posted by Reginmund
Obviously this is true, and I don't see any problem with it or how it changes anything about the fact that the North European countries have among the highest levels of IQ and education.
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IQ and education goes hand in hand, since the former is a gauss-distributed test based on a certain type of education. It's really quite a horrible tool to use to determine intelligence. Especially since people seem to think it's some kind of absolute smartmeter. I know you just used it to give some evidence towards the blonde-myth - I just wanted to point it out.
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Posted: 25-Mar-2009 at 18:44 |
I (being a blond myself) just found out the other day, that the color of the hair is determined by what is under the hair follicle. A true blond has little air bubbles under the hair follicles which makes the hair blond.
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egyptian goddess
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Posted: 25-Apr-2009 at 04:07 |
this is the best topic I have seen in AE so far...
I wouldn't have a clue where the streotype began however there has been a new development also related to that and it is referred to as a "crunchie" (like the cadbury chocolate bar) that is a brunette who ostensibly thinks like a blonde*. Personally, I think that undermining a person's intelligence because they are good looking or don't fit the typical nerdy stereotype is wrong, patronising and particularly offending. Clearly if you were to ask a feminist historian, she would probably attribute the development of this stereotype to patriachy, as it appears that I never hear a male being degraded because of the colour of his hair or his physical appearance.
However, speaking from experience, being stereotyped as a crunchie has motivated me to succeed academically, so I guess it isn't essentially that bad unless a blonde or crunchie actually accepts she is an air head, as your former g/f did.
*n.b. crunchie's may say silly things sometimes or fit the stereotypical image of a 'sexy' girl which warrants her title.
Edited by egyptian goddess - 25-Apr-2009 at 04:09
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Posted: 25-Apr-2009 at 10:37 |
lol, plenty of men get degraded by their appearance. Particularly nerdy looking men get scoffed at. Pretty much anything that stands out of the crowd, be it age, weight etc. As they say, thats life!
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Posted: 25-Apr-2009 at 13:02 |
Originally posted by Parnell
lol, plenty of men get degraded by their appearance. Particularly nerdy looking men get scoffed at. Pretty much anything that stands out of the crowd, be it age, weight etc. As they say, thats life! |
I guess I agree, I didn't think of it that way. However, generally those males who suit the stereotypical nerdy appearence are simply looked at as intelligent (among other insulting things: anti-social etc.) But its true thats life, stereotypes probably won't die out anytime soon. You essentially just have to make the most with what you have.
Edited by egyptian goddess - 25-Apr-2009 at 13:03
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