Notice: This is the official website of the All Empires History Community (Reg. 10 Feb 2002)

  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

The longest battle ever?
 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
  Share Topic Share Topic  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
aknc View Drop Down
Chieftain
Chieftain
Avatar

Joined: 12-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1449 		  Quote aknc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: The longest battle ever?
    Posted: 16-Mar-2005 at 13:19
So.Wich one?
"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
              
Back to Top
druidebaron.nl View Drop Down
Janissary
Janissary
Avatar

Joined: 26-Feb-2005
Location: Netherlands
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 28 		  Quote druidebaron.nl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Mar-2005 at 13:29
The battle for Leningrad lasted three years.
Back to Top
Paul View Drop Down
General
General
Avatar
AE Immoderator

Joined: 21-Aug-2004
Location: Hyperborea
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 952 		  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Mar-2005 at 16:11

This site gives a good list,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sieges

However I disagree, personally I'd go for the siege of Troy.
Light blue touch paper and stand well back

http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk

http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk
Back to Top
rider View Drop Down
Tsar
Tsar

Suspended

Joined: 09-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4664 		  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 13:43
If it happened. Can you count sieges as battles, sieges consist of many battles,-
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest
Guest
  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 13:48
Originally posted by Paul

This site gives a good list,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sieges

However I disagree, personally I'd go for the siege of Troy.


If sieges count I'd say the Siege of Cuba
Back to Top
Gazi View Drop Down
Earl
Earl
Avatar

Joined: 16-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 282 		  Quote Gazi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 13:56
As a pitched battle the battle of Varna lasted for four days.(or some sources say so) but I dont know if it's one of the longest
Freedom is the recognition of necessity.-Friedrich Engels
Back to Top
aknc View Drop Down
Chieftain
Chieftain
Avatar

Joined: 12-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1449 		  Quote aknc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 14:16

Originally posted by rider

If it happened. Can you count sieges as battles, sieges consist of many battles,-

True.Siges do contain many battles.And no one knows how long the siege of troy lasted.Sieges don't count.
"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
              
Back to Top
aknc View Drop Down
Chieftain
Chieftain
Avatar

Joined: 12-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1449 		  Quote aknc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 14:18

Originally posted by Gazi

As a pitched battle the battle of Varna lasted for four days.(or some sources say so) but I dont know if it's one of the longest

think it was the longest.The battle ended when a janissary got a hold on the king,killed him and put his head on top of a spear.
"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
              
Back to Top
Gazi View Drop Down
Earl
Earl
Avatar

Joined: 16-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 282 		  Quote Gazi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 14:24
Do Naval battles count?
Freedom is the recognition of necessity.-Friedrich Engels
Back to Top
aknc View Drop Down
Chieftain
Chieftain
Avatar

Joined: 12-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1449 		  Quote aknc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 14:36

No
"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
              
Back to Top
rider View Drop Down
Tsar
Tsar

Suspended

Joined: 09-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4664 		  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 15:43

Why?? Or is he going to submit - what???

I'd say that maybe battle for a battle. Battle of Varna then.
Back to Top
Riain View Drop Down
Knight
Knight
Avatar

Joined: 10-Feb-2005
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 84 		  Quote Riain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 20:32
I've read that battles have become longer as time progressed, the battle of the Marne in ww1 smouldered for weeks. I think this has to do with the ability to constantly feed in reinforcements and supplies. IN days gone by you used what you had brought with you and that was it, by the industrial revolution you could prop up failure and prolong battles for ages. This is different to old style sieges where a lot of time was spent on starvation, bombardment and mining rather than actual battle.
Back to Top
Tlaloc View Drop Down
Immortal Guard
Immortal Guard


Joined: 17-Mar-2005
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0 		  Quote Tlaloc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 22:27
Sieges, technically, aren't battles..by definition sieges are longer than battles. A siege can include battles.

As for Troy..the method of warfare back then didn't even have the concept of a siege. Agammemnon didn't blockade, didn't attept to subdue the enemy..it was a set of disorganized melees outside the walls, accompanied by marauding greeks pillaging the countryside and contingents of trojans sallying outside every once in a while.

My vote goes to a battle between the Han dynasty under Han Wu Di, and the Huns, in 121 BC. The cavalry battle supposedly lasted a full seven days. Their Khan was killed, and almost 20 thousand troops taken prisoner. The point of the battle was to secure the trade routes through Sinkiang, which it did quite admirably did.
Back to Top
dark_one View Drop Down
Baron
Baron


Joined: 04-Sep-2004
Location: Russian Federation
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 454 		  Quote dark_one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 22:30
 What about Verdun?
Back to Top
Tobodai View Drop Down
Tsar
Tsar
Avatar
Retired AE Moderator

Joined: 03-Aug-2004
Location: Antarctica
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4310 		  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 22:36
the marne, easily longer at least than Varna weeks longer
"the people are nothing but a great beast...
I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value."
-Alexander Hamilton
Back to Top
aknc View Drop Down
Chieftain
Chieftain
Avatar

Joined: 12-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1449 		  Quote aknc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 08:02

Originally posted by Tobodai

the marne, easily longer at least than Varna weeks longer

When did the battle of marne take place?
"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
              
Back to Top
Gazi View Drop Down
Earl
Earl
Avatar

Joined: 16-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 282 		  Quote Gazi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 10:42
Originally posted by aknc

Originally posted by Tobodai

the marne, easily longer at least than Varna weeks longer

When did the battle of marne take place?

In WW1
Freedom is the recognition of necessity.-Friedrich Engels
Back to Top
aknc View Drop Down
Chieftain
Chieftain
Avatar

Joined: 12-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1449 		  Quote aknc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 11:29
How could a battle last weeks?
"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
              
Back to Top
Gazi View Drop Down
Earl
Earl
Avatar

Joined: 16-Mar-2005
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 282 		  Quote Gazi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 13:52
The Battle of Gallipoli lasted for weeks so did the battle of Somme.
Freedom is the recognition of necessity.-Friedrich Engels
Back to Top
Riain View Drop Down
Knight
Knight
Avatar

Joined: 10-Feb-2005
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 84 		  Quote Riain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 15:26
A battle lasts weeks when pig headed Generals keep feeding men into the meat grinder in the vain hope that it is doing some good. When armies number in the millions and the battle lines are static this become possible, that is why ww1 was so tragic. IN ww1 the infantry and cavalry generals who were in charge should have been replaced by siege artillery and engineer generals, who are used to being patient and having many small successes rather than big dramatic successes.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.56a [Free Express Edition]
Copyright ©2001-2009 Web Wiz

This page was generated in 0.141 seconds.