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    Posted: 15-Mar-2005 at 23:26
In this really ancient or was it built much later by colonist?? Meso America or Pilgrims????

http://www.stonehengeusa.com/

If it is ancient then who built it??



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  Quote vagabond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2005 at 04:10

eaglecap -

AFAIK - the only archaeologically proven pre-Columbian contact between Europeans and Native Americans occurred around the Viking settlements in what is today north-eastern Canada.  All other claims to artifacts, inscriptions, etc. have been proven to be misleading, false, erroneous, hoaxes or (how should we put this? ) only for the extremely gullible.

Please don't take offense - but I find myself hoping that no one here honestly believes: that ancient Celts visited America, that the Bimini roads are anything but natural limestone formations created by erosion, or that the Native Americans are the lost tribes of Israel. There are so many other bizarre claims of pseudo-scientific nonsense that have been bandied about. All fly directly in the face of all cultural, historical, archaeological and geological evidence. It's nonsense supported only by garbage science and erroneous conclusions based on (often intentional) misinterpretation of the information.

The stones at "America's Stonehenge" have repeatedly been investigated and every reputable scientist that has surveyed the area has concluded that they are the remains of a late colonial or 19th century farmstead. 20th century owners of the site, looking to make it more "interesting" to visitors, and therefore more marketable, moved many of the stones to their current locations themselves.

Yes there are ancient Native American artifacts in the area, just as there are ancient Native American artifacts strewn across most of the North American continent.  Dig on the banks of any river in New England and you will find artifacts.  Native Americans were here for thousands - perhaps tens of thousands of years.  Any disturbed ground, as where foundations were dug and built for a farmstead, could have a mix of archaeological periods scattered about the site, and an accurate archaeological record would be impossible to set.  Contemporary construction techniques almost ensure that ancient artifacts are being mixed with the foundations of buildings that are going up today.  I have every hope that tomorrow's archaeologists will be more astute than to think that this means that the two societies existed side by side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Stonehenge

http://www.bu.edu/bridge/archive/2002/02-01/archaeology.htm  (includes pieces of an interview with CAS Archaeology Professor Curtis Runnels who teaches the class Archaeological Mysteries: Pseudoscience and Fallacy in the Human Past at Boston University.)

I'm going to move this post to the Americas forum as it has nothing to do with ancient history.

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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2005 at 19:09
I agree that most of their evidence is rather scratchy but it still does not discount the possibility that the Vikings were not the first European to come to America. For the longest time any belief about the vikings arriving in America before Columbus was discounted so I just keep an open mind with reservation. I took no offense because I am open to opinions. On the most part I am trained as a historian with little background in archaeology. I took a methods class once and we excavated a 1930's garbage dump at the old Fort Walla Walla, now the VA Hospital. It was interesting digging up Ketchup bottles from the 1930's. Since I have little time I only posted it as a possiblity. I have heard arguments on both sides of the issue so I still remain skeptical but open
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