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    Posted: 27-Mar-2008 at 20:08
Hi

Im new here. I build wooden warship models of the Galleon and ship of the line type (well, Im building my first model). I am very interested in these ships, getting the correct information about how they looked, their tonnage and armament, the battles they fought in, how they ended, their commanders and all I can know about them. Im am mostly interested in portuguese, spanish, dutch and danish ships,not so much english and american ships.

My problem is that I do not have any experience of finding historic information, and actually I pretty much fail to find any at all. Im not ask you guys to find it for me, not at all. But what I really would love is to get some really good detailed help on how one goes about finding information like this, for example I would like to research all the information I can about the ship Im building now, the spanish (portuguese build) San Mateo. How and where would I start searching for information like this?

I hope you can and have the time to help.
Thank you
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  Quote Roberts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Mar-2008 at 20:20
I guess you already have all the blueprints you need, but anyway you can find some really good ones by clicking this link http://www.all-model.com/index.html. It also contains many links - some of which you might find useful.

Also there is a Osprey military book called "Spanish Galleon 1530-1690", you might be interested in it for historical information and detailed and coloured drawings.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Mar-2008 at 20:37
Yes I do have the blueprints for this model. However I find it very hard to find information on this ship and other ships from the time. I do have that Osprey book, and although it is a nice book, its very small and contains only little information, and no historic information about battles at all.

I look at the link, it only has some very few plans and not much information :)

Anyway what I am really looking for is to learn how to get started as a hobby history researcher, so I can dig out this information over time.

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  Quote hugoestr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2008 at 15:29
The first general rule is that you should try to read everything that you can find on the subject. Go to the local library, get all of the books on the subject, sit down on a table and start reading through them.

After you read the few books that you have access on galleons, start reading books that may talk about them. Get history books, look at the index and just read the pages talking about Galleons.

This will widen your research. Latin American histories, Spanish histories, and English histories suddenly become a source for you.

Also look for naval histories and military history books. They all should talk about something on galleons, and you will put together an interesting picture of how they worked little by little this way.

You may want to keep track of what information you got from where. You will be thankful for doing that when you want to quote some information that you have but can't remember where you found it. There is an excellent article on how to use free software in past issues of our magazine in a series called "The amateur Historian" read that



With time, you will develop an instant knack for identifying good sources from bad sources.

Until that is the case, here are some guidelines:

* Look for a consensus over different authors. While reading different books, look for the ideas that are similar on all of them. Over time agreement on topics seems to point out correct ideas.

* Beware of fanciful accounts. If some story sounds too wild, be careful with that source. It may have been written by a crackpot. So run away of any accounts that attribute cultural achievements to people from other continents, aliens, etc.

Also, beware anyone dogmatically talking about any subject. There is a great chance that they are wrong just by failing to qualify correctly what they are talking about.


Finally, once you have something on this topic, publish an article on our magazine. Writing out the research will is fun and it feels good to share.
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  Quote Aelfgifu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2008 at 17:18
I'd like to add some tips to those good points of Hugo's, about historical research in general:
 
* Do not ever trust a history book which has no end- or footnotes, and a bibliography of used works. If you cannot trace where the information the author uses came from, it is not to be trusted without reservation. For all you know, he or she might have made it up, or twisted the facts to prove their point.
 
* Try to read as many books one one subject as you can before drawing conclusions. Historians will contradict each other, and you need to see all sides of a story to make up your own mind. Good historians will also adress any evidence that disagrees with their own conclusions, and explain how this fits, or how this does not have to fit for their conclusions to be logical and likely. Have some mistrust towards historians who simply ignore everything that contradicts them.
 
* Get access to as many libraries as you can. Most professional institutions, like universities or research institutes allow access to interested people (upon payment perhaps). The added benefit of this, on top of them having a generally good collection of historical studies (rather than the more popular-historic ones that often are the bulk of the ones in smaller local libraries), such institutions often also give you access to extensive searching engines and bibliographies online that are very expansive to subscribe to otherwise, and online resource and article collections such as JSTOR.
 
*When using historical sources first hand, read up as much as you can find on the author (most modern editions will have information and references to further reading included), to make sure you can interpret the information correctly. Most authors will have an agenda or point to make on political issues of the time they wrote in, and you need some knowledge of these to judge the reliability of the source.
 
* Keep an open mind about matters. In history, there is no such thing as the truth. There are only more and less likely theories. All a historian can ever do is to make his/her own theory as well-founded as possible. In some cases, there is enough evidence to be almost sure about its truth. In many others, there is not. The existance of more than one theory on a subject does not have to mean that one is true and the others false. In many cases, we simply cannot reconstruct what was.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Mar-2008 at 10:09
Thank you hugoestr and Aelfgifu for the tips :) If I do become good at finding information, I will certainly share what I find!

I will see if my local university library offers a short introduction in how to search their archives, or if not just jump right in.

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  Quote Parnell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Mar-2008 at 13:01
Use google scholar: scholar.google.com
 
Its gotten me through many a rushed assignment. Just type in what your looking for, e.g, Stavisky Affair, France, Third Republic and it'll generate a list of links to journals and pages on books (Google book, another great source) You won't be allowed to access the journals unfortunately without being a member, but I wouldn't reccomend it because they mainly relate to historiography and other stuff which tends to keep historians busy, rather than actually discussing the topic at hand...
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