We can see, Barbar, that there is a clear and logical explanation for the origin of the term Tungus from their
own language, while your "swine" hypo is already doubted my most of the participants of this particular thread.
I don't need to answer your questions about Turkic words for pigs because these great animals hardly have any relation to Huns or Evenks, except in the wild imagination of some Chinese historians.
As for Russian guys, they didn't stick with the name Tungus for ages, but use the term Evenk now.
I also gave you this particular citation since you can very easily check this point online. You might not particularly like wording how the author put the relation between "donkan" and "tungus," but there is the full number of other books where the historians put it in another way, which might be more appropriate for you.
I also gave the Ket language hypo as an example of IMO "logical" hypothetical thinking, unlike the "swine" theory.
I already gave you a huge list of publications on the problem and I suggest you to study this question more in depth before repeating what you already said.
The fact is that there is no any proof that Donghu were named swines by ancient Turks, there is no definite proof that Donghu were Tungusic and there is no definite proof that the name Tungus originates from Turkic word for swine.
I understand that you may not like my explanation. This is your right. But you have to admit that the explanation you propose is only one from the number of the others which actually seem to be far more logical and natural (at least for some people).
I don't think you can persuade me by repeating again that the word Tungus is very similar to the Turkic word for swine and thus "Tungus" originated from that word.
If you want to keep the discussion constructive and fruitful please switch to another point.
I already said that "swine" explanatation of Tungus is not persuasive for me and not only for me but for the whole number of serious historians whose names I already gave you.
You may still think differently, but it won't change my perseption unless you give something more valid to support your arguments.
Thank you
Edited by Sarmat12 - 06-Feb-2008 at 02:40