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    Posted: 30-Jul-2007 at 08:43
Hello all. What a cool site! I am new and was excited to find your group. I am wanting to make some Byzantine barding for my horse, an Arab, and an archer's costume for myself. Possibly even learn to shoot off her back. Maybe even hit something I aim at. LOL
 
Before starting this endeavor I have decided to learn as much as is possible about the Byzantines, their emperors, and their histories. Reading some of the forums has thus far been very helpful. I was wondering if there were any books your group could suggest that would be good references for me. There are so many to choose from I find I need the help of true history buffs.
 
Thanks for your time. I really look forward to interacting with this group!
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Warren Treadgold - A history of the Byzantine State and Society is a good work on Byzantine history.
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Thank you so much!
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  Quote Akolouthos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2007 at 22:28
I've always been partial to Norwich, but Ostrogorsky is wonderful as well. Honestly--and obviously Wink--I am not as up on my secular history as I used to be. I'd imagine Constantine XI will be posting soon; he should prove to be an excellent source of information on this particular topic.

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If you wish to get a general understanding of Byzantium from the level of the imperial court and the emperors who ruled, John Julius Norwich's trilogy of books on Byzantium would be a great start for someone who is new.
 
However, he does neglect things like the military and economic descriptions. For the economy, I definitely recommend Ostrogorsky. And if you really have lots of spare time to look at things in detail, there is a book by Zoe Oldenborg which is absolutely comprehensive in its detail.
 
But let's not neglect primary sources. Procopius of Caesarea gives a very good description of Justinian's reign and military campaigns, but you must read his secret Histories with a lot of scepticism as he sets out to slander the imperial couple. It takes a trained historian to read the thoroughly puffed up and self important Michael Psellus' Chronographia, who panegyrically lauds the incompetant imbiciles he liked as emperors and smugly defames the better men who tried to actually help the empire. That work is useful if you are a trained historian and good at reading between the lines, just don't take it at face value. Choniates gives a heartbreaking account of the Fourth Crusade, but I recommend you also read Villehardouin and Robert of Clari to get information on the Crusader side also. As a primary reference for the Fourth Crusade, my highest recommendation is John Phillips' Fourth Crusade and Sack of Constantinople.
 
That's about all I can think up off the top of my head before I go back to my thesis, happy reading!
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  Quote tigressofjade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2007 at 07:52
Wow! Is this ever the right group to ask such a question.
What are you writting that thesis on Constantine?
 
Thanks much for all the information. Book hunting shall be the order of the week. If you all would like I shall post pics in a few months once we start on the project.  I'll be asking lots of questions as I am not a trained historian.
 
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  Quote Justinian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Aug-2007 at 01:04
Pictures would be great!  A lot of the main books to get have been covered.  Sometimes their accuracy is questioned but you might want to look up the osprey books on byzantine armies, they should help you since their books are big on photos.  Also you could pm Byzantine Emperor, I'm sure he would be able to recommend some books for you.
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  Quote Constantine XI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Aug-2007 at 01:15
Originally posted by tigressofjade

Wow! Is this ever the right group to ask such a question.
What are you writting that thesis on Constantine?
 
Thanks much for all the information. Book hunting shall be the order of the week. If you all would like I shall post pics in a few months once we start on the project.  I'll be asking lots of questions as I am not a trained historian.
 
Thank you again!
 
I should also recommend the Alexiad of princess Anna Komnena, an extremely lively narrative of the reign of Emperor Alexius I (her father). I would warn you that she is myopic when it comes to knowledge of nations outside Byzantium, and that she has a tendency to engage in wishful thinking and to sometimes euphemise. Akolouthos reminded me to include that, it slipped my mind as I was in a hurry.
 
After I completed by undergrad degree I was offered two scholarships, one in history (humanities faculty) and one in management (commerce faculty). Anxious to secure a well paying job I chose the management one. I'm writing my thesis on what managerial practices contribute most effectively to the success of an online community.
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  Quote tigressofjade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2008 at 23:07
A quick update for all of you helpful posters. I am begging work on my tunica and damica. A good friend of mine makes costumes and we are going to try and make a wardrobe for Pennsic. I will make sure to post the pics as the project progresses. These won't be completely historically accurate as I don't plan on weaving my own damicas and Tunicas, but any help, advice, or input would be greatly appreciated. The horse archery is proving tricky, but I will persevere! 
 
Thanks again for the great reads.
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Originally posted by tigressofjade

A quick update for all of you helpful posters. I am begging work on my tunica and damica. A good friend of mine makes costumes and we are going to try and make a wardrobe for Pennsic. I will make sure to post the pics as the project progresses. These won't be completely historically accurate as I don't plan on weaving my own damicas and Tunicas, but any help, advice, or input would be greatly appreciated. The horse archery is proving tricky, but I will persevere! 
 
Thanks again for the great reads.
 
I agree with the primary sources that were suggested by my colleagues.
 
However, as for a good survey of Byzantine history, the best one is still George Ostrogorsky's History of the Byzantine State, transl. Joan Hussey, Rutgers Univeristy Press, 1969.  Use Treadgold's survey with caution because he makes many unsubstantiated claims, especially concerning the army and its recruitment and pay.  Norwich should also be used with caution as it is written more as literature than an academic history.
 
Are there any specific Byzantine topics in which you are interested?
 
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