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Topic: 10,000 year old mammoth carcass found Posted: 11-Jul-2007 at 14:31 |
A 10,000 year old female baby mammoth frozen carcass was found in Siberia. It is the most well preserved specimen found to date of a mammoth. Heres the article and a photo of the cutie!
Source: http://www.thestar.com/News/article/234736
Edited by morticia - 11-Jul-2007 at 14:32
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Posted: 11-Jul-2007 at 21:30 |
What a find! Thanks for sharing that, morticia. It's incredible something that has been dead so long is so well preserved.
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Posted: 11-Jul-2007 at 21:34 |
Think they will be able to extract DNA from this one? The last one they tried for cloning purposes had DNA that was to damaged. This one being so well preserved, you can only hope!
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Posted: 11-Jul-2007 at 23:37 |
Cute little girl, or was it a boy?
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Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 04:29 |
Girl, the man who found it named it after his wife - Lyuba. Seems like a not very nice thing to do, naming an 'elephant' after your wife, but then of course she'll probably have a bigger legacy than most of us.
Some scientists say that they definitely will bring the mammoth back by intermingling stripped elelphant dna with mammoth dna, but others say that the dna would be far too 'shot' to make it possible. Where would we put them anyway?? Its a mammoth task, one way or the other..<<chuckle>>
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Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 04:35 |
saw this today. I hope they find some intact and usable DNA
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Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 07:05 |
We could keep them to wander around up in Siberia. Not many people would want to go and visit them up there. Caring for them would be a real tusk!
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Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 07:11 |
Hoof started the puns?! Because I aint goina stop
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Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 08:17 |
You mean hoof hearted? (say that one quickly) But seriously they complain about cattle emitting gases, what about the gases from huge beasts wandering around near the Arctic Circle? "Lyuba, if I've told you once I've told you a thousand times, make a rude noise like that again and you will cause a sudden change in the weather. Is that an ice storm over there? Help! "
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Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 08:32 |
Elenos, you have officially the most active imagination of any human I have encountered..! You should try your hand at poetry
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Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 08:53 |
Originally posted by elenos
You mean hoof hearted? (say that one quickly) But seriously they complain about cattle emitting gases, what about the gases from huge beasts wandering around near the Arctic Circle? "Lyuba, if I've told you once I've told you a thousand times, make a rude noise like that again and you will cause a sudden change in the weather. Is that an ice storm over there? Help! "
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Posted: 13-Jul-2007 at 15:12 |
Originally posted by SearchAndDestroy
Think they will be able to extract DNA from this one? The last one they tried for cloning purposes had DNA that was to damaged. This one being so well preserved, you can only hope! |
According to this article, Tikhonov (the Deputy Director of the Russian Academy of Science's Zoological Institute, says the following regarding the cloning process of this specimen:
There were suggestions that the baby mammoth could be cloned and be used to breed a live mammoth. Tikhonov dismissed these ideas because, cloning can only take place if whole cells are still intact, but since the mammoth was found in permafrost, the freezing would have caused the cells to burst."
Tikhonov said, "Such a unique skin condition protects all the internal organs from modern microbes and micro-organisms ... In terms of its future genetic, molecular and microbiological studies, this is just an unprecedented specimen."
Here's the article: http://kaylascott.newsvine.com/_news/2007/07/11/831104-baby-mammoth-found-in-siberia
Here's a closer view of the baby mammoth, who is a female (ahem) and presumed to have died about the age of six months - and well preserved in permafrost.
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Posted: 13-Jul-2007 at 21:05 |
We had a
lttle baby mammoth Called Lyuba Who
wandered wild and free Who could
ever tell? How one day
her sweet name Would be
written down In paleontological history
Now poor
little Lyuba And the species of her mom Went extinct
out in ice country What a permafrost tragedy! But the come
the day When her DNA
May clone
again and Rise up to
speak to me.
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Posted: 17-Jul-2007 at 17:10 |
Well done elenos
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Posted: 18-Jul-2007 at 02:45 |
Actually I'm feeling guilty for sidelining the discussion. There are more questions to be asked. I feel sentimental about their passing, no doubt about that, but to again introduce an animal that uses it's giant tusks like a snow plough to get at the vegetation underneath for the whole herd may well have serious effect on the present day environment.
Could it be they were being pushed further north, past the point of no return, by relentless Ice Age hunters lusting for an elephant barbeque?
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Posted: 18-Jul-2007 at 07:24 |
Ir's possible I suppose, particularly for the early people who co-habitated with them, for instance the eskimos and their occassional diet of whales. Our good old mother earth has suffered more than enough at our hands.
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