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    Posted: 01-Jun-2007 at 15:17
                    originally posted by olvios
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the question is that when CAESAR was studing in Apollonia in ILLYRIA he liked a lot  the name spring by illyrians(in albanian PRANE-VERE=near summer) and take this to ROME for adjust the calendars...... Why should this great man be influenced by illyrian language?!
He wasnt influenced by illyrians which are not proven to be albanians anyway but influenced by Greeks he studied most of his.
 
Not only he was influenced by illyrians but he had a part of them in his side during his war with Pompey near Durrachium.He respected a lot illyrians for their braveness.
Some autors even say that his name "juli/julius" is the derive of the name "ylli"(the star in albanian)          Ylli=juli.
When Caesar was acrossing to Aulona at ancient ORIK he said exactly:-these beutiful views bring me in mind the homeric views and the people remember me antic troyans.....
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Gaius "Julius" Caesar Octavianus went to Illyria not  Julius Caesar.Oricia or Oricum was  a Greek  city.

"Arha Ellas apo Oricias kai arhegonos Ellas Epiros"

"Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus."

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Julius Caesar was of the Julius (fem. Julia) is the nomen of the gens Julia, an important patrician family of ancient Rome supposed to have descended from Julus(replacing the Greek name Ascanius), and thus from the goddess Venus.

Illyrians were warriors ,so what.The name has nothing to do with illyrian or albanian.


Julius

  1. A male given name

Latin

Etymology

Uncertain, possibly from Greek ioulos 'wooly first beard hares', i.e. the young, or from Latin Jovilius 'devoted to Jove'

Noun

Julius

  1. July (month; originally Quintilis 'the fifth' (starting from March), renamed after Caius Julius Caesar)
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 first Orik wasnt at all a greek city,his habbitants were  Amantians,an illyrian tribe.
But we should know that also Rome and Romans were more related with illyria and illyrians(dont forget here that a good part of the imperators were from illyria).
But lets stay in this debat....Etruscs were the preantic of the Romans and romans called them also like Tusci/Tosci and Etruria nowdays is called Toscana,but tosci(toske) also are called and the south albanians.
The name that was given Rome was for honor of Romulus,and we know that etruscs were a branch of pellazgs.
The name romulus derives from albanian which means "circle/or circle form(rromullaket in alb) and in a wide meaning it would be translated like a man with circle head form.
 
also BRINDISI (the roman city) derives from albanian language that is named like the horn of sheep(bri-n-=horn in alb and dis/das=the masculine of sheep)
 
Byzant too can be explained by albanian language"it is shared in 1 buz/byz=lips(in the meaning of piece of earth near the sea) and ant/asht=is,there is                                       So Byzant could named like a piece of earth longed into sea(and today Istanbul is really positionated in similiar circonsatnces)
 
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Can somebody close this stupid thread? Albanian is not the oldest language!
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Hi Arber,
...if you are not interesting in this thread you are not forced to writte or either to pay attention
 
I just wonder if it is the oldest and have my own rights to doubt about it.....
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This thread has overstayed its welcome.
 
It has little to do with history, all the more with ego and nationalism, and the discussion has dragged itself way beyond the point of interest.
 
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