Ahnold’s Austrian citizenship to be ended?

Originally posted by Genghis I never said I would kill anyone without trial.� I said that if twelve people decided you needed to die, then even if you are innocent, you probably aren't Mother Theresa or Isaac Newton.

I grant you that, but can't you honestly see, where your line of argument is leading to. Firstly, it should be the foundation of any system of justice that all defendants are treated equally, regardless of race, gender, social status etc. And secondly, who the hell do you think you are,that you feel free to make decisions which human being is worth living and which not? We had all this, 70 years ago.

killing people at will. Really smooth indeed.
If you don't care about killing innocent people, why should murder be forbidden at all?

Originally posted by Genghis First of all, it's only 1 in 8 are "innocent".  And even those innocent 12.5% are probably no great loss.  We aren't accidentally killing rocket scientists and brain surgeons.

And that was said by the guy who call's himself a libertarian. I guess your libertarian viev's you shared with people like Stalin and Dzierzynski.

Dzierzynski - massmurderer, polish aristocrate and soviet revolutionist, founder of Cheka which later changed into NKVD and later into KGB was use to say: "There are no innocent people, there are only such who havent been properly examined". Im sad to say it but you Genghis share somthing with people like him, not with the libertarians.

What doesnt mean that im against capital punishment.

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Originally posted by Genghis What? I've never said I was a libertarian.  I've always been an authoritarian, and a supporter of the idea that a state needs a strong central government.  Tobodai is the libertarian, not me.

I remember you saying in one of your older posts that you are libertarian. Maybe it has changed since that time.

The response of leftists is on expected lines. But why is the Green party raising this issue? These Greens give environmentalism a bad name.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a great leader. He is the only man who can unite the West. The left wants the divisions to stay, and hence keeps targetting Arnold.

All power to Arnold!

Originally posted by warlord Arnold Schwarzenegger is a great leader. He is the only man who can unite the West. The left wants the divisions to stay, and hence keeps targetting Arnold All power to Arnold!

I'm not quite sure, if you are serious, but for the sake of the argument, let's just presume you are.
I often have the feeling, that the borders between reality and fantasy have become blurred in American politics, just watch Fox News. Are we talking, Arnie the Terminator or Conan here, saviour of the universe, or Arnie, the would be politician, whose grasp on the basic issues of politics is somewhat loose? Try to keep the two apart!
Do they have job centres in the USA, where they recommend second rate actors, whose career is falling apart, to go into politics?
What about Sylvester Stallone, he needs a job, how about Defense secretary, he's got lots of experience and all these Rambo movies are based on more realistic scenarios than the current American foreign policy.

Originally posted by Komnenos Originally posted by warlord Arnold Schwarzenegger is a great leader. He is the only man who can unite the West. The left wants the divisions to stay, and hence keeps targetting Arnold All power to Arnold! I'm not quite sure, if you are serious, but for the sake of the argument, let's just presume you are. I often have the feeling, that the borders between reality and fantasy have become blurred in American politics, just watch Fox News. Are we talking, Arnie the Terminator or Conan here, saviour of the universe, or Arnie, the would be politician, whose grasp on the basic issues of politics is somewhat loose? Try to keep the two apart! Do they have job centres in the USA, where they recommend second rate actors, whose career is falling apart, to go into politics? What about Sylvester Stallone, he needs a job, how about Defense secretary, he's got lots of experience and all these Rambo movies are based on more realistic scenarios than the current American foreign policy.

I judge people by their ideology. You may be surprised, but movie stars are actually human beings, not cartoon characters. .......atleast in America, and probably in the Netherlands as well.

I'll vote for SpongeBob....LOL

Originally posted by Komnenos Originally posted by warlord I judge people by their ideology. You may be surprised, but movie stars are actually human beings, not cartoon characters. .......atleast in America, and probably in the Netherlands as well. Now there is an idea. The USofA, the Land of true freedom and democracy, surely shouldn't discriminate against cartoon characters. If they can choose wooden actors as presidents or governors, why not ones made of paper. My dreamticket for 2008 would be Scooby Doo/SpongeBob SquarePants. I would be a certain improvement on the current administration and Scooby Doo's grasp on the English languge is rather better than G.W.'s.

Well, the US had Mickey Mouse (Clinton), and nearly had Donald Duck (Dean). Scooby Doo would be much better.

I don't support the death penalty. However, I don't think Austria should revoke Arnold's citizenship simply because he allowed California law to run it's course.