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Topic: Wolves to be re-introduced in Scotland? Posted: 20-Jul-2011 at 09:48 |
America's New Wolves, Gene Letourneu, 1950's. Gene started tracking the reports of Hybrid wolves/coy dogs in the late 1940's. His Boston Globe column "Sporstman Say" carried his early research into the resurgence of the animal. The deer population was in decline at the time, and people were looking for reasons.
Gene Letourneu was considered the "Dean of Maine Outdoors Writers". He was a regular contributor to "Sports Afield" and "Field and Stream". His column "Sportsmen Say" was syndicated in some 20 dailys. It took the Maine Fish and Wildlife folks 10 years to catch up to his research.
He was a good friend and I feel honored to have known him.
BTW- The post above stated that the Coyotes migrated east. No, the Coyote we have in the Eastern US is another hybrid. It's usually called a "Coy Dog". It's a hybrid of the domestic dog and the now almost extinct "Eastern Coyote".
Believe it or not, New Jersey is one of the last places to find an Eastern Coyote. They still run in the Pinelands. About 2-3 times a year one is found as a roadkill.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2011 at 10:46 |
Originally posted by red clay
Believe it or not, New Jersey is one of the last places to find an Eastern Coyote. They still run in the Pinelands. About 2-3 times a year one is found as a roadkill.
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I have always been amazed that there is a large, wild area on the out skirts of the New York / Philidelphia metropolitan areas.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2011 at 11:05 |
In Poland we got wolves in the mountains. Its not really expensive, goverment just need to spent about just few millions euros a year for farmers who lost sheeps or cows, especially when the winter is hard, this is very low cost I think. Also the dogs are often able to defend their sheeps from wolves.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2011 at 11:18 |
Originally posted by Mosquito
In Poland we got wolves in the mountains. Its not really expensive, goverment just need to spent about just few millions euros a year for farmers who lost sheeps or cows, especially when the winter is hard, this is very low cost I think. Also the dogs are often able to defend their sheeps from wolves. |
That's a good point. Mosquito. I remember reading somewhere? that farmers take domestic dog pups and place them with the lambs from a young age. The dog pups grow up alongside the lambs and live alongside them in the fields, where they actually view the sheep as members of the pack. When wolves attack the sheep, the dogs protect their sheep-pack.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2011 at 12:23 |
Originally posted by PADDYBOY
Originally posted by Mosquito
In Poland we got wolves in the mountains. Its not really expensive, goverment just need to spent about just few millions euros a year for farmers who lost sheeps or cows, especially when the winter is hard, this is very low cost I think. Also the dogs are often able to defend their sheeps from wolves. |
That's a good point. Mosquito.
I remember reading somewhere? that farmers take domestic dog pups and place them with the lambs from a young age. The dog pups grow up alongside the lambs and live alongside them in the fields, where they actually view the sheep as members of the pack. When wolves attack the sheep, the dogs protect their sheep-pack.
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Those dogs got it already in their genes. When you got such dog he treats you and your familly exactly in the same way, like lambs :) The parents of my ex wife had such dog, a race called Polish Tatra Sheepdog.
2-3 such dogs can defend the lambs even from the whole wolfpack. There were cases that even one such dog forced to retreat 5 wolves. I saw myself when this dog was attacked by the Rottweiler and defeated him in about 2 seconds.
The funny thing is that this dog is often patroling the house and the gardern checking if all familly members are present and safe.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2011 at 13:13 |
A good Collie, one whose bloodlines haven't been screwed with, will do much the same. They were bred to be both a herd protector and a "Cottage Dog".
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Posted: 20-Jul-2011 at 13:28 |
My only comment is to say my sympathy lies more with wolves; then with the ineptness of researchers and interests groups and governement agencies. Who, in their arrogance, attempt to control nature for and at the benifit of men only....with little consideration other then for a profit margin. However that is obtained....and for what ever reason.
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Posted: 21-Jul-2011 at 15:59 |
If you want some numbers, from my bad memory, I seem to remember that at least ten years ago, the population of coyotes in the state of Mississippi was over 100,000!
I can only imagine what it is today!
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