people of northern pakistan?

We haver been through this, yes you can find blond blue eyed people, and you can alos find drak skinned people. N Pakistan has been the gateway for invaders for millenia.

One more thing, I have seen the program in BBC about the people from CHitral. of extreme northern Pakisthan, they showed a bit of their culture and their culture is of Hindu tradition... why Ill tell u..
   They told in the program that they beleive their GOD to be in Kailash a mountain.
  Now in Hiduism this Kailash mountain is the abode of Lord Shiva. Thought they are muslim now by the grace of Islamic tolerance.
   Similarly another tradition is when women mensurate in Hindu culture they are not allowed to work or do any household things, they sit seperately for those 3 days while the food and their requirements is served to them..
  This tradition is still followed by the people of Chitral, the program showed it...
 This may give a glimpse of how in some pockets of seclusion where the Islamic saints could'nt spread their destructve grace with consistency, traditions and culture of those ancient times survived

You can't really judge the Kalash as being a hindu culture or a non hindu culture because there is no such thing as a consistent hindu culture in the subcontinent and surrounding lands. The hindu culture of Kashmir is different from the hindu culture of Bengal. Even the term hindu is just in reference to the Indus Valley where a major portion of this culture and religious germinated thousands of years ago. And the Kalash are not muslim today either, they still for the most part follow their original religion and only some have begun to convert. 

are they in iran also?

Most Chitralis are muslims. Only a few tibes are still animist. The gov dose however pay them a lot of money to retain their old traditions.

 

 

What does the Chitral people beleive in ?
  And the program clearly  showed one of the Chitral elders telling their believes. They regard the kalash mountain to be sacred. And In Hindusim Kailash is a sacred mountain for evry hindu because is the abode of Lord Shiva whether he is from Bengal or from Tamil Nadu.
   I am not painting anything in Hindusim here. And what so surprising and disturbing even if they are Hindus and held similar animistic beleifs , Hindus to hold animistic beleives, and in the past when Islam was absent, all the places till afghanisthan the centralasian states were drenched in Buddhism and Hinduism.
   I saw their expression of beleives and telling it here, you did'nt see it and you seem to expressign your opinion here rather than anythig. what is Hindu and what is not, to say they are hindu and they are not.
   Culture prior to ISLam held similar beleives over much of the subcontinent whatis your problem with that.
  

                Was'nt Central asia Buddhist. Did'nt Central asia had a Buddhist tradition??
  And how are the buddhist beleives different from Hinduism In the first place do you know what Buddhism is. Buddhism is a philosophy of conduction of Life. The outward reflection of it may be the worshipping of Buddha. Karma,Transmigration, Dharma how much are they Buddhist and how much are they Hindu.....

You can't really judge the Kalash as being a hindu culture or a non hindu culture because there is no such thing as a consistent hindu culture in the subcontinent and surrounding lands. The hindu culture of Kashmir is different from the hindu culture of Bengal.

   I mean it from him that magadst want to express that variation of Hinduism, that constantly shifts from place to palce with legends of locality imbibed in it.
 

ike maqsad said hinduism is not constant all over south asia,

               Not constant in what? Hinduism is identified by a particular set of philosophies, rituals may differ to a great degree differ, the constant here is philosophy.
               What have bind the various so different and diversified states of India, I would love to know what may be the causes the bind this nation?

Vijay, you are incorrect. The kalash are not hindu, though some are pagans, and follow rituals that coincidentally are performed by Hindu's.

Edited by northpakistani - 02-Apr-2007 at 23:35

          Man don't you understand, Islam started at a fixed point of time in history, there are people even before, and they followed a religion no where near to Islam..
        Don't you understand, the main beleif of the Kalash was that they believe kalash mountain to be the abode of their LORD.....
   Kalash is a corruption for the word kailash which in Hinduism is the abode of LORD Shiva...

Coincidental man pakithan is not 1000's of miles away to just treat that as coincidental...
  Dont you know ancient kashmir is an important place in the worship of Shiva...
         

that actual kalash people are not of hindu orgins though, clearly they came from outside, maybe some of them adopted hindu customs who knows