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    Posted: 06-Oct-2007 at 13:34
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Originally posted by pinguin

The Spanish government was a lot less corrupt than Admiral Columbus and the conquestadors. Besides, corruption was widespread in Europe those days, and if you don't believe it just watch out how England was doing at the same time LOL

 
Bad choice of date. In 1492 England was going through a period of much improved administration, getting rid of the corruption of families like the Woodvilles, as Henry VII brought the nobles to heel after the end of the Wars of the Roses.
 
Really? Well, then move the time scale a little bit after or before that pure Henry VII Big%20smile...
 
 
Add one to Henry VII and you get this guy, for instance, who had a very curious and practical way to get rid of his wives LOL
 
 


Edited by pinguin - 06-Oct-2007 at 13:38
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I just have to say.... I think you're all nuts. LOL  But I'm crazy too, so....

The Genoa Administrative Office has some 81 documents confirming the existence of a Cristoforo Colombo, the one we all know of.

http://www.italiacerca.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1077&Itemid=187

Actually, a recent DNA test has basically all but confirmed that Colombus was indeed Italian. The only controversy now is whether he was Genovese, or Lombard-Piemontese (as a new DNA test has been hinting).
So, he's Italian.

By the way, people....

In Italy, Colombus Day has no significance at all. It may be put on the news that it's the anniversary of Colombus' discovery, but that's about it. There are no celebrations, no days off...nothing.

Colombus Day is only a significant holiday in Spain and the Americas. Italian-Americans are usually too ignorant to know that no one in Italy cares about this day.
Let there be a race of Romans with the strength of Italian courage! - Virgil, from his Aeneid
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Well, if Columbus was Italian it makes more sense he was Genovese rather than Lombardian Piemontese. Genoa had a long sailing tradition during the Middle Ages, being one of the four Maritime Rupublics of Italy (the others are Venice from where Marco Polo is from, Pisa of the famous tower and Amalfi). Now, if he came from Genoa he would've been Genovene, rather than Italian, because Italy didn't exist at those times as a political entity.

 
It seems Columbus is important for the Italian-Americans living in the United States rather than Italians in Italy. At the end, many people celebrate October 12th because many reasons, sometimes contradictory:
 
Italian-Americans, because Columbus represented them.
 
Americans, because represents the beginning of the U.S.
 
Spain, because marks the glory of that country.
 
The Catholic Church, Because the spread of Christianism outside Europe. Columbus was going to be considered Saint LOL
 
The Natives: because they remember the day they lost theirs freedom and theirs sufferings under a cruel and massive invasion.
 
Latin Americans: because they know they wouldn't be alive today without the tragic and human encounter of two worlds. We celebrate our Genesis in that date.
 
Anyone else?
 
Finally, nobody has noticed that the three caravels carry the Genoa flags in the main sails? Wink
 
 
The flag of Genoa.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by pinguin - 07-Oct-2007 at 14:30
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