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    Posted: 20-Feb-2007 at 10:56
Anyone know any books they can help me out with the Gallowglasses of Ireland? (Well, technically Scotland)
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Well, Gallowglasses were mercenary elites of a mixed Scoth/Irish and Norse decent from the 13th century to the 16th century. The weiled large two handed axes and two handed swords (claymores). For armor the usually used chainmail. 
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Here is a web page about the galloglasses. Here is a link to the Amazon page with every book with Gallowglass inside its title. I hope this helps.

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Thanks!
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Originally posted by Adalwolf

Well, Gallowglasses were mercenary elites of a mixed Scoth/Irish and Norse

No, they were just of Scots/Norse descent (Scots that are Gaelic are not necessarily Irish, neither would the English be of German descent). I know it is very trivial, but I just wanted to point that out.

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Originally posted by Emperor Barbarossa

Originally posted by Adalwolf

Well, Gallowglasses were mercenary elites of a mixed Scoth/Irish and Norse

No, they were just of Scots/Norse descent (Scots that are Gaelic are not necessarily Irish, neither would the English be of German descent). I know it is very trivial, but I just wanted to point that out.


Well, since Scots were originally from Ireland they would be of Scoth/Irish decent.
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Originally posted by Emperor Barbarossa

Originally posted by Adalwolf

Well, Gallowglasses were mercenary elites of a mixed Scoth/Irish and Norse

No, they were just of Scots/Norse descent (Scots that are Gaelic are not necessarily Irish, neither would the English be of German descent). I know it is very trivial, but I just wanted to point that out.
 
In later years the Gallowglass were made up of native Irish as well to swell the ranks when the Scots took casualties.
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Originally posted by Adalwolf

Originally posted by Emperor Barbarossa

Originally posted by Adalwolf

Well, Gallowglasses were mercenary elites of a mixed Scoth/Irish and Norse

No, they were just of Scots/Norse descent (Scots that are Gaelic are not necessarily Irish, neither would the English be of German descent). I know it is very trivial, but I just wanted to point that out.


Well, since Scots were originally from Ireland they would be of Scoth/Irish decent.

I do not think you get it, it would be like calling the English of English/German descent because they are descended from Germanic tribes. That is not fair to English, and in this case, it is not fair to Scots. However, Denis is correct in another interpretation, that the Irish did replace the Scots casualties (especially evidenced by the bagpiper playing the Irish tune "Garryowen" in the article I linked to).

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